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Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


Habibi posted:

Frankly, the specific industry involved has little bearing on the rest of that desire. I'd just as readily accept "Trevor Linden woke up to find shrubbery trimmed into penises, butts," headline, or "Trevor Linden entered hospital for routine physical, left with new brain." I ain't picky.

"Trevor Linden Accosted by Chapters Employee to buy 'Hockey Management For Dummies'"

"Trevor Linden's Car Stripped At Mr. Lube, Pieces Replaced With Scrap Parts"

"Elementary School trades Linden's Children"

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Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

So with that game last now, Fleury finds himself at 38th out of all goalies with more than 8 starts, with a whopping .904 save percentage. He "won" with a .903
Murray, currently rocking a .929, sits for that headcase because the guys really like him.

Hey, JR and Mike Sullivan - this is not a 1a/1b platoon situation. Sit Fleury, and if he complains tell him to waive his NTC.

While I'm totally on board with Murray being the #1, I actually do think that MAF has been off to a somewhat unlucky start. Bad numbers, yeah, and a fair number of stinkers that he should have had, but he's also been in games where he hasn't gotten much help. All signs point to Murray being the real deal, but I don't mind having a bit of a platoon situation given how Murray still doesn't have a big book of experience.

If I'm wrong and MAF doesn't bounce back at all, then I'll eat my words, but for right now I think the Pens should stick with a 1a/1b strategy so long as Murray is the 1a that they play in the big games. Which it kind of seems like they're doing...

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Habibi posted:

What has happened with Blashill? Not that I've really been paying attention to Detroit, but there was a lot of optimism when he was tapped to replace Babcock, and people seemed to be excited to see what he could do. Even early on in his first season I recall general happiness with what he was doing among RWAS. Is it just a case of working with a poo poo roster, or...?
I don't know anything about Blashill's work (although I'd say Detroit has one of the very worst rosters in the league), but every coach in the league is hated here.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Spring Break My Heart posted:

I don't know anything about Blashill's work (although I'd say Detroit has one of the very worst rosters in the league), but every coach in the league is hated here.

Not remotely true.
Every coach here rides the rollercoaster would be more accurate.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Schlesische posted:

Not remotely true.
Every coach here rides the rollercoaster would be more accurate.
Even with like Sutter, Quenneville, Vigneault etc. I think there are way more negative posts about them here than positive. For at least half of the coaches it's entirely negative.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Spring Break My Heart posted:

Even with like Sutter, Quenneville, Vigneault etc. I think there are way more negative posts about them here than positive. For at least half of the coaches it's entirely negative.

To be fair I think this thread is pretty negative in general because it's hard to affect ironic detachment if you admit to liking things

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

While I'm totally on board with Murray being the #1, I actually do think that MAF has been off to a somewhat unlucky start. Bad numbers, yeah, and a fair number of stinkers that he should have had, but he's also been in games where he hasn't gotten much help. All signs point to Murray being the real deal, but I don't mind having a bit of a platoon situation given how Murray still doesn't have a big book of experience.

If I'm wrong and MAF doesn't bounce back at all, then I'll eat my words, but for right now I think the Pens should stick with a 1a/1b strategy so long as Murray is the 1a that they play in the big games. Which it kind of seems like they're doing...

A lot of those games where he doesn't get much help he lets up a bad goal or two early and then the Pens are chasing the game and getting trapped. His horrible rebound control and inability to smother pucks also leads to a lot of zone time for opponents against the Pens. These things don't happen with Murray in net because he controls his rebounds and is able to get stoppages.

That said I don't object too much to having started him two games in a row. MM had a few stinkers and Maf did play well against Dallas, so starting him against Detroit was not a huge stretch.

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

Habibi posted:

What has happened with Blashill? Not that I've really been paying attention to Detroit, but there was a lot of optimism when he was tapped to replace Babcock, and people seemed to be excited to see what he could do. Even early on in his first season I recall general happiness with what he was doing among RWAS. Is it just a case of working with a poo poo roster, or...?

There was restrained optimism when he started because his hiring seemed to reflect an institutional identity change where younger players could, by merit, actually get ice time over vets.

He's never had a good roster, true enough, but it also turns out that he's just a mediocre coach anyway. His line management isn't great (down a goal in the 3rd with an offensive zone faceoff? let's play our 4th line!) and he's in love with lovely grinders.

It's hard to express how bad the team is, though, and I don't know if a different coach would get better results.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
MAF and Murray will both get their share of starts this month because the schedule is so packed anyway so I don't see the point in worrying who gets which start. And either MAF puts together some good games and the Penguins have two good goalies (and MAF actually has some trade value maybe), or the current trends continue and Murray proves he's decisively better than Fleury and they can commit to moving on from MAF. The Penguins have more leeway than most teams to be able to drop a few games being patient in resolving their goalie situation .

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

So when does the NHL get this. :effort:

https://gfycat.com/AstonishingScentedAsiaticgreaterfreshwaterclam

Zat
Jan 16, 2008


Apparently the NHL is in fact in cahoots with the company that developed the review system in use in EPL, so perhaps it's not impossible that they're developing some sort of similar tech for hockey. http://www.hawkeyeinnovations.co.uk/sports/ice-hockey

For now, it seems they're only responsible for NHL's multi-angle replay review system.

But it would probably be really hard to pull off compared to all those ball sports, since the puck is black and small, and problematic goal reviews mostly result from the puck being literally obscured from view. These systems rely on cameras being able to track the ball.

Zat fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Dec 5, 2016

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

So change to a bright green puck. That's what tennis did.



Then a few years later they changed to a ball, and the rest is history.

Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Dec 5, 2016

kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

Zat posted:

Apparently the NHL is in fact in cahoots with the company that developed the review system in use in EPL, so perhaps it's not impossible that they're developing some sort of similar tech for hockey. http://www.hawkeyeinnovations.co.uk/sports/ice-hockey

For now, it seems they're only responsible for NHL's multi-angle replay review system.

But it would probably be really hard to pull off compared to all those ball sports, since the puck is black and small, and problematic goal reviews mostly result from the puck being literally obscured from view. These systems rely on cameras being able to track the ball.

Using video to determine the outer limits of a ball is probably much easier than a puck as the edge of a ball is fixed distance from its center no matter what its orientation is.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Aphrodite posted:

So change to a bright green puck. That's what tennis did.

Tradition. :qq:

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

kill me now posted:

Using video to determine the outer limits of a ball is probably much easier than a puck as the edge of a ball is fixed distance from its center no matter what its orientation is.

The only sport that plays with a perfect ball is snooker though

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002




If Nurse ever gives someone a concussion, I hope they yell about their brain hurting.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

We live in a world where cars can drive themselves, rockets can land on a barge in the ocean, and 3d scenes can be built from 2d video.

Precisely tracking a hockey puck should not be that loving hard.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

If they could find a way to fund it with the player share it would get done.

Vicas
Dec 9, 2009

Sweet tricks, mom.

xzzy posted:

We live in a world where cars can drive themselves, rockets can land on a barge in the ocean, and 3d scenes can be built from 2d video.

Precisely tracking a hockey puck should not be that loving hard.

Not really, often times they explode, and eh, the human eye does a lot of the work there

Nothing's ever that simple, especially tiny vulcanized rubber

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


I think, with enough expense, the technology currently exists to definitively correctly call a goal/no goal when the puck is fully visible.

I am willing to bet that the expense to have that is too great for the cheap-rear end NHL owners on it's own, but especially when you consider how many goal/no goal questions involve partial or full occlusion of the puck.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

glynnenstein posted:

I think, with enough expense, the technology currently exists to definitively correctly call a goal/no goal when the puck is fully visible.

I am willing to bet that the expense to have that is too great for the cheap-rear end NHL owners on it's own, but especially when you consider how many goal/no goal questions involve partial or full occlusion of the puck.

Wouldn't it be a matter of putting some sensors on the outer edges of the puck? Seems like that could be done in such a way that doesn't compromise the weight or strength of it.

Bike Lane Closed
May 26, 2006

Mistakes were made

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Wouldn't it be a matter of putting some sensors on the outer edges of the puck? Seems like that could be done in such a way that doesn't compromise the weight or strength of it.

Maybe have some on the fly image processing that would make it easier to see the puck on TV.

Spelling Mitsake
Oct 4, 2007

Clutch Cargo wishes they had Tractor.
Is it really that important though? I mean yeah, it could affect a goal call and maybe the outcome of a game, but in an 82 game season and 7 game playoff series does it really make a difference?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Spelling Mitsake posted:

Is it really that important though? I mean yeah, it could affect a goal call and maybe the outcome of a game, but in an 82 game season and 7 game playoff series does it really make a difference?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Spelling Mitsake posted:

Is it really that important though? I mean yeah, it could affect a goal call and maybe the outcome of a game, but in an 82 game season and 7 game playoff series does it really make a difference?

In a game where one goal is often the difference between victory and loss, yeah, it's kind of a big deal to know if the puck actually crossed the goal line.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
We might even know the location of kanes puck for the hhof then

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I'm fairly certain that no one cares but Anaheim just got their metaphorical poo poo pushed in by the Flames.

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


grack posted:

I'm fairly certain that no one cares but Anaheim just got their metaphorical poo poo pushed in by the Flames.

Chiasson has a three point game, and I'm pissed off at him for loving over my reverse league team.

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009
What happened to that one Duck's fan.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

Zettace posted:

What happened to that one Duck's fan.

Banned for idiotic opinions

Zettace
Nov 30, 2009
So for being a ducks fan? :v:

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

nature6pk posted:

Maybe have some on the fly image processing that would make it easier to see the puck on TV.

this was my first thought too, and I'm glad I'm not alone in remembering lazer-puck

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Wouldn't it be a matter of putting some sensors on the outer edges of the puck? Seems like that could be done in such a way that doesn't compromise the weight or strength of it.

it would probably make the pucks substantially more expensive

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

JawKnee posted:

it would probably make the pucks substantially more expensive

Whatever they could possibly do is still cheaper than the sports that use leather balls

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



I wish the Red Wings were good

Failing that I wish they would have hired me for the position they contacted and interviewed me for

Failing that I wish they would have hired me to be the General Manager instead

dadjokes
Feb 9, 2015
With the Wings I'm worried that the "youth movement " will be an excuse to keep management around for at least a year or two more. I feel that they have done a great job selling the narrative of how young the team is when it's just Larkin,Mantha, and AA are the only worthwhile young forwards-and even then Mantha and AA started the year down in GR or have bounced up and down.

Those awful contracts to bottom six, late 20s grinders that give Kenny the husband bulge are going to gently caress this team up for years. When the Wings were in their prime they were always an old team so 28/29 is still touted by the org as a young player but I think the NHL has changed a ton since then, and the quality of the vets has taken a nose dive as well. Every year we hear about how this being the year Erisson hopefully puts it together.

I don't really know what to think about Blashill. Sometimes the Wings seem ok and other times they look completely out matched. The original excitement was how he said he was so committed to bringing along younger players but seems to rely on the same vets that Bacock did. I can only imagine just how intense the pressure is to keep the streak alive and couple that with with who Ken signs that must force Blashills hand. Or maybe he is a bad coach, idk.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

What if we make the pucks radioactive?

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Zettace posted:

What happened to that one Duck's fan.

Prob graduated dropped out of highschool.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002


No, that's Edmonton

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DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


It's gonna come crashing down soon enough but in the meantime woo flyers :toot:

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