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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Wal-mart and costco are 'soulless expressions of consumerisum', sure, but they are cheap, and they are places where a small amount of money buys a lot more food than at a more local socially concious place.
Everything may be cheap, lower quality, and not use socially aware manufacturing, but saving money and buying in bulk is why people shop there for food and everyday clothes perishables.

At Wal-mart, getting the stuff needed for basic hygene, nutrition, and clothing is accomplished easily and cheaply, and so money can be saved for stuff that is more artisinal and less 'consumerist'

Food, Clothing, and Hygene are things that every human needs, and Wal-Marts and similar places make it easy to get those things with less resources spent. Sustainability and other things are not issues for a person looking to stretch a paytheck further via getting low-priced food and soap.

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
This thread has gone from 'are big retail stores good or bad' to 'which stores will survive the ongoing apocalypse occurring in US retail'.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

paragon1 posted:

I know of at least one big box store that went out of business, then the local county government bought it on the cheap, redid the interior a bit, and moved every last one of their offices in there (except the courthouse obviously). So they had a cost effective one stop shop for government offices rather than having them spread out over a dozen buildings all over the place. It was pretty nice inside too.

Huh, that actually makes sense for government offices, and there is plenty of room for parking already.
Where is this converted government building?

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

got any sevens posted:

Rip


I wonder how much of grocery stores can be automated. You still need to refill shelves, fix stuff that sloppy customers knock over, self checkouts are slow and lead to lots of theft...

They probably can barely even BE automated for those reasons, especially with all the packaging sizes for food and drink that exist

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

incoherent posted:

Eddie Lampert is a methodical, long term performance art piece.

It will be called "Death of a salesman."

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
With how big Amazon has become, I wonder when tbe Amazon corporation/Wonder woman crossover marketing campaign is going to occour.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Can anyone tell more horror stories of ancient franken-tech in retail? Sounds fascinating.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I worked for a place that designated roles in the approval chain by specific people's names, not their titles. So The Process wasn't "Have the VP of Purchasing sign off in step 3" but "Have Joe Smith sign off." If Joe knew he was going to be unavailable, he could enact a multi-day process to designate a delegate to do his approvals for him, but for no more than 30 days and renewing the delegate took another whole approval process. And only Joe himself could initiate the process, so if, as frequently happened, Joe got fired and marched out the door before setting up a delegate, that approval chain was a dead end. Permanently. Even if you got some advance warning, you had to continually renew the delegation settings for former employees, because once someone was built into the approval chain there was literally no way to remove them.

The system was so spammy that most people had their email notifications turned off (otherwise you'd get 20 or 30 emails for every invoice, letting you know that every single other person in your approval chain had viewed an item), so to actually get something approved you had to call each person on the chain and ask them to look up your purchase by its 15-digit ID code and approve it. Which worked okay when Joe Smith was actually still working there, but frequently you'd have to suss out who the delegate of the delegate of the delegate of Joe Smith was because turnover was so high.

They were two years overdue with some vendors, and they'd been blacklisted by so many that they literally had to buy their own workshop for producing an incredibly fundamental product (think like, a car assembly plant that can't source tires) because no one in the entire world with the production capacity they needed would work with them anymore.

That place sounds like a nightmare to work at.
Did no one try to fix or replace the system or approval chain?

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
So what happens when someone gets demoted using that system? Is it possible for the janitor or such to be the person who signs off on purchases because they were shuffled around in the company from their old position?

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
So apparently Amazon announced this thursday that the prices of everything at whole foods will be cut. And the stocks of traditional grocers went into a tailspin at the news.

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