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TURN 5-1-3 - It is Egypt's turn! Greece's techs are fixed up (and as such, Greece gets the Idea I didn't give them yet.) Egypt attempts to influence Nara further and succeeds! Eventually! (1 + 3 Culture = 4) Egypt's forces assault Japan's army! Egypt plays Cavalry: Cavalry posted:Army: If, during this turn, you eliminate as many or more units than your opponent, make another combat roll using only d6s. This roll can eliminate at most one unit. Defiant Stand posted:DEFIANT STAND - Army/Fortress/Ship: If you are the defender, +1 CV for each enemy unit. Egypt Forces: 4 Armies = 4d6 = 12! 2 hits! Japan Forces: 3 Armies + Defiant Stand = 3d6+4 = 15! 3 hits! The Egyptian cavalry charge fails! Maybe you should've brought some horses! Egypt may continue the assault if desired. Action Queue - Persia: Place tile 1, Barbarian Camp. - Egypt: Continue assault? - Egypt: 2 more moves.  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (Emperor Jimmu) On Table - Trojan Horse - Upon attacking a player city, the attacking player may pay 1 Culture and 1 Wood to prevent the defender from playing any Combat cards the first combat round. This card is then kept by the player and is worth 1 VP. Reserved - Lighthouse (Persia) Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules
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I'll place the new tile with the forest facing north, and the barbarian camp on the edge of the map.
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The assault continues! Japan plays Peltasts:Peltasts posted:Prior to a combat roll, roll a d6 for each Army unit. If you score at least one hit, you may cancel one of your opponent's hits on the upcoming roll. Japanese Peltasts: 1d6 = 5! Egypt Forces: 1 Army = 1d6 = 2! Japan Forces: 1 Army = 1d6 = 1! Egypt Forces: 1 Army = 1d6 = 3! Japan Forces: 1 Army = 1d6 = 6! 1 hit! Japan successfully defends! Egypt already gained its Culture for Embalming. Egypt recovers an Infantry. TURN 5-1-4 - It is Japan's turn! Action Queue - Japan: Apothecary? - Japan: Recover Action Card? - Japan: Take turn.  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (Emperor Jimmu) On Table - Trojan Horse - Upon attacking a player city, the attacking player may pay 1 Culture and 1 Wood to prevent the defender from playing any Combat cards the first combat round. This card is then kept by the player and is worth 1 VP. Reserved - Lighthouse (Persia) Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules Stelas fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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Feb 14, 2017 22:57
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Spend 1 food, recover army in Egyptopolis. No additional moves.
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Above post updated!
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Recover Peltasts. Can't apothecary, no food. 1) Move inf+Jimmu into Egyptburg. Hooray! Also, move cav to Osaka. 2) Activate Nara for 2 food, 2 ore (husbandry+roads). 3) Activate Egyptburg, spend food+ore to make a cavalry. Gain 1 mood (Nationalism).
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Gutter Owl posted:Recover Peltasts. Can't apothecary, no food. e: Never mind I'm dumb. Stelas fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 11:31
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Japan spends a Culture to recover Inspiration/Peltasts back to hand. Egyptburg is taken in Japan's name! For taking a non-angry city, Japan are paid 3 Gold in spoils. In response to a non-angry city being captured, Egypt may place a Settler in a city of their choice. TURN 5-2-1 - It is Persia's turn! Action Queue - Egypt: Place Settler.  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (Emperor Jimmu) On Table - Trojan Horse - Upon attacking a player city, the attacking player may pay 1 Culture and 1 Wood to prevent the defender from playing any Combat cards the first combat round. This card is then kept by the player and is worth 1 VP. Reserved - Lighthouse (Persia) Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules
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Settler in Egyptopolis. Also, if I'm not mistaken I get an infantry spawn from Fanaticism since there's a temple in the fallen city, which also goes in Egyptopolis.
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Okay, so. +1 gold from Banking for a max of 8 shiny coins. I trade with Japan and Greece for +3 Food. 1.) Advance Chemistry with two ideas (+1 Mood). Play Tech Synergy to advance Metallurgy simultaneously, netting me an additional +2 culture. I also play Idea Synergy for +2 Ideas. 2.) Advance Absolute Power with 2 ideas (+1 Mood). So my resources shake out to 3F, 1O, 0W, 0I, 4C, 7M, 8G. I now activate Susa, build the Great Lighthouse as a free action (3Ore, 5Wood, 3Food, 5Culture), using 1 Ore, 3 Food, 7 Gold, and 3 Culture. This grants me a free ship in the city. 3.) Move my three ships to the south coast of Nara at H6. 4.) I spend 2 mood to activate Absolute Power and Collect 1 food, wood, ore, and Idea at Babylon. Triskelli fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 17:24
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Yo, I just realized my mistake earlier. I said "food+ore for a cavalry." Should have been "food+wood for a cavalry."
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Feb 15, 2017 21:06
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I think you've got another action Triskelli, part of the benefit of reserving a wonder with Monuments is that it no longer costs an action to build.
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Straight White Shark posted:I think you've got another action Triskelli, part of the benefit of reserving a wonder with Monuments is that it no longer costs an action to build. Oh, got it. Revised orders are edited into my post.
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Bit of a rough night on-call. Update either in a little, or come morning NZ time.
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Gutter Owl posted:Yo, I just realized my mistake earlier. I said "food+ore for a cavalry." Whoops. Sorted. (Japan's ore goes up one, wood goes down one.) Also, yeah, you don't get a free move immediately after building the Lighthouse as far as I can tell. Unfortunately, after that pause: Triskelli posted:1.) Advance Chemistry with two ideas (+1 Mood). Play Tech Synergy to advance Metallurgy simultaneously, netting me an additional +2 culture. I also play Idea Synergy for +2 Ideas. Tech Synergy allows you to buy 2 techs in a single action, but you have to pay for both. You're out of Ideas after the first!
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E: vvv  vvv
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Feb 17, 2017 05:16
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Er, Metallurgy is free at that point because he has Chemistry innit?
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Straight White Shark posted:Er, Metallurgy is free at that point because he has Chemistry innit? Fair point!
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Sorry, I'm pretty frazzled. Can't even take comfort in it being Friday! TURN 5-2-1 - It is Persia's turn! Persia plays both Tech Synergy (gain a second advance in a single action) and Idea Synergy (+2 Ideas when gaining an advance). Persia has built the Great Lighthouse in Susa! Persia hasn't accounted for 2 Culture (7 Gold is being used for 2 Ore and 5 Wood but Triskelli only pays 3 Culture out of 5). For the sake of keeping the game moving I'll juggle around the collect action so it comes beforehand, using 1 Ore and 1 Wood to free up 2 Gold to be used as Culture instead - making the payment 2+1G Ore, 3 Food, 1+4G Wood, 3+2G Culture. We can work it out afterwards if Triskelli'd like a different distribution. TURN 5-2-2 - It is Greece's turn!  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (Emperor Jimmu) On Table - Trojan Horse - Upon attacking a player city, the attacking player may pay 1 Culture and 1 Wood to prevent the defender from playing any Combat cards the first combat round. This card is then kept by the player and is worth 1 VP. Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules
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Well the two culture came from Xerxes' ability Great Builder, which gives me a discount for building Wonders.
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Aw, butt. Okay, yeah, best to call that out since there's already a lot of crosschecking of details and skills that has to go on. Sorry! Image will be fixed on Greece's turn.
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Turn 5-2-2 - Greece +1 food from Trade Route with Egyptville 1. Advance Voting for 2 ideas. Draw 1 action and objective card (Writing). Waiting on the cards before proceeding.
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Greece draws an Action and an Objective card. TURN 5-2-2 - It is Greece's turn! Two actions remain.  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (Emperor Jimmu) On Table - Trojan Horse - Upon attacking a player city, the attacking player may pay 1 Culture and 1 Wood to prevent the defender from playing any Combat cards the first combat round. This card is then kept by the player and is worth 1 VP. Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules
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Turn 5-2-2 - Greece (cont.) 2. Advance Economic Liberty for 1 idea, 1 food. Economic Liberty. Activate Roma to collect 2 wood, 1 ore, 1 food. Gain 1 idea from Public Education. 3. Found city Epirus at D8. Voting. Pay 1 mood token to take Civic Improvement action at no action cost. Pay 3 mood to impove Epirus and Chersonesos to happy. Play action card "Leadership". Pay 1 culture for 1 extra action. Leadership. Increase City Size of Epirus with a temple. Pay 1 ore, 1 wood (State Religion). Generate 1 culture token.
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Egypt 5-2 1. Activate Egyptopolis, collect 2 food 1 ore 1 wood  2. Move a single Egyptopolis infantry from C3->C2 and attack. When he inevitably dies, pay 1 food to recover him in Egyptopolis, gain a new infantry in Egyptopolis from Fanaticism, and then do the whole thing again. Additional moves pending combat results.
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Pausing for a general strategy from Gutter Owl as to how to handle combat cards.
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TURN 5-2-2 - It is Greece's turn! Two actions remain. Greece plays Leadership: Leadership posted:Pay 1 Culture token to play. Gain an extra action this turn. TURN 5-2-3 - It is Egypt's turn! Egypt's forces partially attack Egyptburg! Japan plays Peltasts. Japan's Peltasts: 2 Armies = 2d6 = 9! 1 hit blocked! Egypt's Forces: 1 Army + Fanaticism = 1d6+2 = 6! 0 hits! Japan's Defenders: 2 Armies = 2d6 = 8! 1 hit! Egypt's attack is unsuccessful! Japan recovers Peltasts for 1 Culture. Egypt gains 2 Armies in Egyptopolis! Egypt's forces partially attack Egyptburg! Japan plays Peltasts. Japan's Peltasts: 2 Armies = 2d6 = 6! 1 hit blocked! Egypt's Forces: 1 Army + Fanaticism = 1d6+2 = 8! 0 hits! Japan's Defenders: 2 Armies = 2d6 = 8! 1 hit! Egypt's attack is unsuccessful! Egypt gains 2 Armies in Egyptopolis! By CO, Egypt rinse and repeats. Egypt's forces you know I think I'll nerf partial attacks into the ground next game, or make Fanaticism 1/round or only trigger on defence or something Egypt's Forces: 1 Army + Fanaticism = 1d6+2 = 3! 0 hits ... or that will happen, I guess. Japan's Defenders: 2 Armies = 2d6 = 6! 1 hit! Egypt gets 1 Army back from Fanaticism, being out of food (and stacking limit). TURN 5-2-3 - It is Egypt's turn! One action remains.  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (Emperor Jimmu) On Table - Trojan Horse - Upon attacking a player city, the attacking player may pay 1 Culture and 1 Wood to prevent the defender from playing any Combat cards the first combat round. This card is then kept by the player and is worth 1 VP. Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules
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Stelas posted:Egypt's forces you know I think I'll nerf partial attacks into the ground next game, or make Fanaticism 1/round or only trigger on defence or something I still think it's underpowered as an endgame government relative to the pile of free actions that Democracy and to a lesser extent Autocracy get. There's a reason that a lot more civs get juiced up Theocracy than Democracy. Anyhow: Gain 3 culture from those 3 combats (Embalming.) 3. Attack Egyptburg 3 more times, 1 at a time. Gain 1 more culture from Embalming (since it caps out.) Free (Arts & Sculpture): Spend 1 culture for a free cultural influence on Kashiwahara, dumping 2 culture to boost range (size 3 + Cleo + 2 culture for range 6.) Spend up to 2 culture to boost the roll, success on 2+. Free (Absolute Power): Spend 2 mood on another action, 3 more attacks por favor (assuming Egyptburg still stands.) Free (Cleopatra): Drop another culture token in Egyptopolis. Same CO as before. If it hasn't triggered by the 6th attack, activate it then.
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Y'know, Stel, you never actually corrected the thing where I'm supposed to have a cavalry in Egyptburg.
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That changes the math a bit. Slight change in orders: pop my CO after the 5th attack (but still continue on to a 6th attack if needed.)
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Straight White Shark posted:I still think it's underpowered as an endgame government relative to the pile of free actions that Democracy and to a lesser extent Autocracy get. There's a reason that a lot more civs get juiced up Theocracy than Democracy. I strongly disagree with this - not because of the free actions (though your free actions do give easy VP, rather than resources!) but because of the other benefits. At the very least I feel like Fanaticism needs a significant nerf - no other government can make their cities functionally impossible to take over and generate a pile of Infantry for free at no action cost just by taking them back. If there were more ways to mitigate hits it would be balanced, but very few players are going to be able to take over a city, make it happy, and build a Fortress all in one round - the only reliable way to defend against a fanatic rush. Gutter Owl posted:Y'know, Stel, you never actually corrected the thing where I'm supposed to have a cavalry in Egyptburg. I tried! An infantry is like a cavalry! TURN 5-2-3 CONT. 3.1 - Egypt etc etc. Egypt's Forces: 1 Army + Fanaticism = 1d6+2 = 6! 1 hit! Japan's Defenders: 1 Army + 1 Cavalry = 2d6+1 = 7! 1 hit! Japan's cavalry dies. Egypt gets an Infantry back and a Culture. 3.2 - By CO, Egypt pays 1 Culture to activate Trojan Horse, and moves the entire stack. Egypt's Forces: 4 Armies + Fanaticism = 4d6+2 = 13! 2 hits! Japan's Defenders: 1 Army = 1d6 = 5! 1 hit! Egypt reclaims Egyptburg! Emperor Jimmu has died in battle! Due to the city being unhappy, there are no spoils or refugees. Pausing for other moves / reconfirm of free actions.  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (-) Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules
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[quote="Stelas" post="46955 1873"] I strongly disagree with this - not because of the free actions (though your free actions do give easy VP, rather than resources!) but because of the other benefits. At the very least I feel like Fanaticism needs a significant nerf - no other government can make their cities functionally impossible to take over and generate a pile of Infantry for free at no action cost just by taking them back. If there were more ways to mitigate hits it would be balanced, but very few players are going to be able to take over a city, make it happy, and build a Fortress all in one round - the only reliable way to defend against a fanatic rush. [/quote] Fanaticism defenses look really daunting and impressive but I'm convinced they really are a pretty niche benefit. It's almost purely a damage mitigation strategy--at best you can combine it with apothecaries to generate half-price armies (not free) but considering you typically have to lose a city to kickstart the chain this is more of a consolation prize than anything. Egypt is designed around maximum Fanaticism abuse and all I have to show for it is that my poo poo is slightly less wrecked than it would be if I had to face Japan's pile of bullshit without my own pile of bullshit. Anyhow: 3 cont'd. For the 3rd move, Egyptopolis settler moves south C3->C5. Free (Arts & Sculptures). Dump culture into cultural influence on Kashiwahara as previous orders. Free (Absolute Power). Spend 2 mood, activate Egyptville to collect 1 food/1 ore/1 wood (note that Trojan Horse spent my wood, so I still only have 1 wood.) Free (Cleopatra). If I have any culture tokens left after the cutlure attempt, drop one in Egyptopolis.
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Yeah, I have to say that was cool, but it is not as ridiculous as what I was pulling off the last game. I was basically pulling off a wonder a turn at the end in that one.
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TURN 5-2-3 CONT. Egypt attempts to influence Kashiwabara! (1) TURN 5-2-4 - It is Japan's turn!  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (-) Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules
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1) Research Free Education. Pause for Event.
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TURN 5-2-4 - It is Japan's turn! Two actions remain. Japan draws an Event: Great Statesman posted:Put this card on the table. The first player to pay 1 Culture may, as an action, both: a) Gain a free Government advance, b) Draw 2 Action cards. Barbarians appear!  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (-) On Table - Great Statesman (Pay 1 Culture to gain a Government advance and draw 2 action cards. Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules
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2) Activate Kashi, spending 1 mood to get 1 cavalry (draft), gaining 1 culture (nationalism). 3) Spend culture to redeem Great Statesman, picking up Totalitarianism and 2 cards. Spend 2 mood for an extra action (Absolute Power). 4) Activate Osaka to build an Academy, gaining 2 ideas. Wait to see what I draw from Great Statesman before passing turn. gutterdaughter fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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TURN 5-2-4 - It is Japan's turn! Only free actions remain. Japan also has a Barbarians to place.  Red - Triskelli - Persia (Xerxes) Green - frankenfreak - Greece (Alexander the Great) Blue - Straight White Shark - Egypt (Cleopatra) Yellow - Gutter Owl - Japan (-) Reference Post | Zoomed-In Tech Board | Condensed Rules Stelas fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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End turn. (I should be at zero culture.) EDIT: Barb village north of Osaka with infantry. Barb Elephant over by Egyptville. gutterdaughter fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Feb 21, 2017 |
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