peaceful protests [do / do not] work in america

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a helpful bear: Aug 18, 2004; Slippery Tilde

what do you think? does it make a diff to protest peacefully in tyool 2017 in america?

i think it does but only with planning and in combination with political activism (local gov on up) and repeated protesting. john lewis knows how to get attention for it

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SpiderHyphenMan: Apr 1, 2010; by Fluffdaddy

MLK Jr. would have accomplished far less if not for Malcolm X. Peaceful protest only works if violence is the implicit alternative.

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big black turnout: Jan 13, 2009; Fallen Rib

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

MLK Jr. would have accomplished far less if not for Malcolm X. Peaceful protest only works if violence is the implicit alternative.

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The Muppets On PCP: Nov 13, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

MLK Jr. would have accomplished far less if not for Malcolm X. Peaceful protest only works if violence is the implicit alternative.

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Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

It may have worked before but the powers that be learned how to insulate themselves from it/destroy it so lock and load

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get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

it depends on whether they're actual protests or just dumb performance art. the former works, the latter usually doesn't

# ? Jan 20, 2017 05:48

big black turnout: Jan 13, 2009; Fallen Rib

get that OUT of my face posted:

it depends on whether they're actual protests or just dumb performance art. the former works, the latter usually doesn't

if you're not risking arrest you're probably not protesting productively tbh

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Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

I used to do protests with my union who was allied with some local activists and all ouf protests were stupid, got no press coverage, and changed no ones mind but at least we were obnoxious and in peoples way so we got to jerk each other off

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bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

gas

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mormonpartyboat: Jan 14, 2015; by Reene

hey yeah ok alright

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jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

please dont call for violence in this thread fellow comrades because trump is about to gain control of the most powerful surveillance state in the history of humanity and you dont want to hurt his feelings

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Kraps: Sep 9, 2011; This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

this kid tells all of you to stfu https://twitter.com/PhillyCustoms/status/822272795665199104

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falcon2424: May 2, 2005

Protests give reporters an excuse to talk about an issue for a news cycle. That's free press.

Trump just showed us how much free press coverage matters.

And very few people bother to vote. A march could work great, if you paired it with a threat to primary politicians who don't vote the way you like.

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Mariana Horchata: Jun 30, 2008; College Slice

Kraps posted:

this kid tells all of you to stfu https://twitter.com/PhillyCustoms/status/822272795665199104

felt m8

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a helpful bear: Aug 18, 2004; Slippery Tilde

bump_fn posted:

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a helpful bear: Aug 18, 2004; Slippery Tilde

jk. that kid rocks

carter sez screw our president!

i fully agree that there needs to be a threat of some recourse to our leaders (no re-election) or protests dont reach their full potential

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jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

It turns out that both work but only sometimes. Well, hope that helps, op.

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Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Peaceful protests can be good for good organizations to recruit volunteers or donators to grow their orgs.

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Tweet Me Balls: Apr 14, 2009

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

MLK Jr. would have accomplished far less if not for Malcolm X. Peaceful protest only works if violence is the implicit alternative.

The good cop bad cop approach to change in America.

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Al!: Apr 2, 2010; Can't post for 40 minutes!

Kraps posted:

this kid tells all of you to stfu https://twitter.com/PhillyCustoms/status/822272795665199104

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Al!: Apr 2, 2010; Can't post for 40 minutes!

a rare appearance from green stripe bloc. those motherfuckers scare me tbh, theyre capable of anything

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walgreenslatino: Jun 2, 2015; Lipstick Apathy

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

MLK Jr. would have accomplished far less if not for Malcolm X. Peaceful protest only works if violence is the implicit alternative.

This but it has to be threats of real violence and not threats to throw empty Aquafina bottles at Deploraball attendees

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Bushiz: Sep 21, 2004; The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se; Grimey Drawer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD3lgI9QIV8

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the bitcoin of weed: Nov 1, 2014

peaceful protest is really easy to ignore, is the thing

a rep from some terrible plains state introduced a bill to make it legal to run over protestors if they clog up the highway, too

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Sylink: Apr 17, 2004

They work but are poorly timed imo, they have to inconvenience people.

Take the women's march thats about to occur. Good, yes, effective no. Yes they have permitting etc.

But if they wanted to make a statement they should have all showed up today and disrupted the inauguration.

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fspades: Jun 3, 2013; by R. Guyovich

americans worship individualism and gun culture so no wonder they suck pretty hard at protesting and the only idea they have to make it more effective is to make it more violent.

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the bitcoin of weed: Nov 1, 2014

I gotta say every weird young feminist protest that involves women taking their clothes off doesn't accomplish anything except making them all look dumb. please stop doing this

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big black turnout: Jan 13, 2009; Fallen Rib

Fullhouse posted:

I gotta say every weird young feminist protest that involves women taking their clothes off doesn't accomplish anything except making them all look dumb. please stop doing this

it accomplishes at least one thing :dong:

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fspades: Jun 3, 2013; by R. Guyovich

fspades posted:

americans worship individualism and gun culture so no wonder they suck pretty hard at protesting and the only idea they have to make it more effective is to make it more violent.

Here, I'll explain with pictures:

America:

Not America:

America:

Not America:

America:

Not America:

America:

Not America:

Which ones look like a gaggle of atomized individuals venting off their impotent frustration? Which ones look like displays of an organized and professional force?

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jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

fspades posted:

Here, I'll explain with pictures:

I disagree imo and feel like the reason protests in general seem to work less well in America is that the righteousness of your political structures is enshrined in the founding myth of your country, well, hope that helps.

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Gyra_Solune: Apr 24, 2014; Kyun kyun
Kyun kyun
Watashi no kare wa louse

peaceful protests do not currently have any effect, and also they are subject to paying off people to start poo poo in order to justify violent, possibly fatal suppression of protest

it's a great thing to go to if you could do without an arm, or your eyesight

# ? Jan 20, 2017 19:06

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Gyra_Solune posted:

peaceful protests do not currently have any effect, and also they are subject to paying off people to start poo poo in order to justify violent, possibly fatal suppression of protest

it's a great thing to go to if you could do without an arm, or your eyesight

Hey remember when those ex marines shot a bunch of police and suddenly policing got better instead of just more paranoid

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fspades: Jun 3, 2013; by R. Guyovich

BLM got their poo poo together though, relatively. probably owes it to the experience of civil rights movement.

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Count Freebasie: Jan 12, 2006

This is how you do it:

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falcon2424: May 2, 2005

fspades posted:

America:

Not America:

Which ones look like a gaggle of atomized individuals venting off their impotent frustration? Which ones look like displays of an organized and professional force?

I like this. Any group that could organize people on this this scale would be absurdly effective.

A few thousand coordinated voters would blow establishment politicians out of the water.

But, instead, every protest needs to be about every issue. And they break down into disorganized, infighting chaos.

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tadashi: Feb 20, 2006

David Cross had a bit around 2003/4 about not bringing your dumb loving legalize weed signs to Iraq War protests. American protests can get really dumb really quickly.

Protests are good for bringing attention to issues. It takes co-ordinated action, like during the civil rights movement, to get poo poo done.

Also, peaceful protest do work. They're the only kind of protest that has ever worked without completely destabilizing a country. Otherwise, you're just creating escalation of force or starting a civil war.

# ? Jan 20, 2017 19:54

walgreenslatino: Jun 2, 2015; Lipstick Apathy

fspades posted:

Here, I'll explain with pictures:

Which ones look like a gaggle of atomized individuals venting off their impotent frustration? Which ones look like displays of an organized and professional force?

All the examples you posted are of movements that failed lmao
Strong argument here

1) Greek left movement: failed

2) South Korean vigils to remove Park: terrible example, still failed

3) Chilean student protests: failed

4) Turkish protests against chauvinistic authoritarianism: failed

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Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

tadashi posted:

Also, peaceful protest do work. They're the only kind of protest that has ever worked without completely destabilizing a country.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

MLK Jr. would have accomplished far less if not for Malcolm X. Peaceful protest only works if violence is the implicit alternative.

Peaceful protests alone are useless liberal masturbation.

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jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Wheeee posted:

Peaceful protests alone are useless liberal masturbation.

You say that but the people in this country brought down the government through strikes before, and the government knows it could happen again (which is why they try so hard to kerb them!)

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