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AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

https://twitter.com/Ippei_painter/status/1782299850916376638
https://twitter.com/Ippei_painter/status/1782342565154742365

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Spectral Werewolf
Jun 15, 2006

And if that wasn't funny, there were lots of things that weren't even funnier...
https://x.com/fe_heroes_en/status/1782332964124397764?s=61

This looks like it’s going to cause problems. You can get a forma Alfred but he will still follow the inheritance rules of forma units, which is that you cannot inherit skills from a forma unit. That’s kinda the whole purpose of the rearmed hero.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

Spectral Werewolf posted:

This looks like it’s going to cause problems. You can get a forma Alfred but he will still follow the inheritance rules of forma units, which is that you cannot inherit skills from a forma unit. That’s kinda the whole purpose of the rearmed hero.
I've also seen people reporting on Reddit that despite Alfred being in the hall (and thus allowing access to Arcane Qiang as per IntSys' own wording), Chloe cannot pick up Qiang on her own in the Hall. You know, the one thing people expected Alfred and other Arcane weapon users to allow when IntSys made that statement of "Arcane weapons will only be available when a Rearmed Hero is in the Hall".

So, good job IntSys! :bravo:

SL the Pyro
Jun 16, 2013

My soul cries out
with the desire to
FRACTURE
your puny spine.


what do you mean that hotkey disappeared
Now that people have messaged IntSys about the "problem", we've been given a straight answer; it is not a bug, it was IntSys being bad with words as usual.

What they wrote:

quote:

Arcane weapon skills will appear as options in Hall of Forms only when the Forma include the Rearmed Hero whose arcane weapon skill it is.
What they should've wrote:

quote:

Arcane weapon skills will appear as options in Hall of Forms only for the Rearmed Hero who owns them if they are among the Forma.

And as has already been established, Forma'd Rearmed Heroes can't give Skill Inheritance. So the gist of the mistaken message was meant to be: "We're not giving you Arcane weapons for free. Give us your moneyOrbs, nerds."
I'm choosing to ignore the fifth set of Combat Manuals when saying this, since those are oneshot inherits that can't duplicate skills.

Basically a Rearmed/Attuned Hero is only in the Hall so that you have a chance to summon them from the accompanying banner. You can use a Forma Rearmed/Attuned Hero as a merge project if you actually like using the unit, but know that by doing so they'll lose the ability to duplicate rare skills -- that's the most important part of their toolkit, and one that actively saves you the game's paid currency, so sacrificing that is a very, very bad idea.

SL the Pyro fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Apr 24, 2024

Cattail Prophet
Apr 12, 2014

The way it's worded was dumb, but I don't understand how anyone seriously thought the correct interpretation was "no arcane weapons in the hall, except if a rearmed hero is one of the forma, but also, if they are, then the arcane weapon can show up for anyone who can use it." That's like, the least intuitive way that it could possibly work. Also, it's not like it even matters unless you were looking to put Qiang specifically on Chloe.

E: Qiang doesn't even seem that great on her? It's mostly just a sidegrade to the prf she already has. (This will likely be true pretty much every time this situation comes up, since a set of forma units are always going to be more or less contemporary with each other.)

Cattail Prophet fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Apr 24, 2024

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
Good to see you can still cheese every rokkr with a legendary female shez and 3 dancers

Sodium Chloride
Jan 1, 2008

As I expected Rokkr are too easy with modern powercreep. Even the aoe attack is not a problem since a lot of units are bulky as gently caress and heal themselves.

SL the Pyro
Jun 16, 2013

My soul cries out
with the desire to
FRACTURE
your puny spine.


what do you mean that hotkey disappeared
My CYL tickets spat out some interesting things.
  • Astrid
  • Caeldori
  • Hector
  • Asc!Fjorm
  • Marianne
  • Gatekeeper (actually wanted!)
And then I broke my pity rate on New Heroes by snagging a third Attuned Azura.

Pretty good haul, all told. My only gripe is that I got no new Flares or Flared Sparrows to add to my arsenal, but I've got the former on a Rearmed, and the latter is the new Atk/Spd A Slot hotness that is probably going to end up on seventeen different new units.

valuum
Sep 3, 2003
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Sodium Chloride posted:

As I expected Rokkr are too easy with modern powercreep. Even the aoe attack is not a problem since a lot of units are bulky as gently caress and heal themselves.

Uh yeah, wow. You can autobattle advanced to an easy 200k now, apparently. Used NewIke, NewAlear, Duosanaki and my beefy festival FKana.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

As many have reported elsewhere, Legendary Shez with dancer support also completely demolishes everything.

And here I thought the hiatus was to try and rebalance Rokkr Sieges to accommodate for modern units. Guess it was just a case of "Whoops, we mostly forgot this mode existed for a year and change. Let's bring it back."

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

My armor galeforce units cheesed through it pretty easily

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

I just threw Emblem Ike and some other omnitanks at it. First time I've ever hit damage cap on a Rooker and I actually managed to get some of the ugly accessories!

I am personally fine with that sieges being easy. I don't play this stupid waifu game for the challenging gameplay...

SL the Pyro
Jun 16, 2013

My soul cries out
with the desire to
FRACTURE
your puny spine.


what do you mean that hotkey disappeared
My old strat for it with outdated units thankfully still works. Even when I scuffed my first attempt by forgetting to bring Guard on a couple of people, 200k damage was easily done.

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_EN/status/1784779641498280099?s=19

This is like the worst legendary/mythical line up I've ever seen

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

I keep getting Thorr and Loki mixed up. To whit, I thought OG Loki was already a Mythic. Thorr is and they're both gods! It just makes sense.

Speaking of Thorr, I hope she gets something good for her eventual remix. She was good when she released but she's fallen off super hard. It would be nice to be able to use her again.

wanda
Dec 8, 2010

Abyssal Mythic Loki battle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va-_PU1fUF4

That was fun. Would have taken a bit longer to cook without the Ike engage ring.

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

I beat Abyssal Loki with my Emblem Ike and Attuned Caeda wombo combo. Although Loki could kill Ike even on Lunatic and that concerns me. It concerns me a lot.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Lmao

I pulled Loki. OG, 4* Special Loki, who I didn't have before. Pretty good troll, game

Strange Matter
Oct 6, 2009

Ask me about Genocide

Silver Falcon posted:

I beat Abyssal Loki with my Emblem Ike and Attuned Caeda wombo combo. Although Loki could kill Ike even on Lunatic and that concerns me. It concerns me a lot.
My Emblem Ike tanked every battle through Infernal without trouble or even any support, really, outside of having an ally within Finish range. She kills him on Abyssal if unsupported, but a party of Mythic Lumera and Bunny Mirabilis gave him more than enough backup to finish her off.

Spectral Werewolf
Jun 15, 2006

And if that wasn't funny, there were lots of things that weren't even funnier...

loquacius posted:

Lmao

I pulled Loki. OG, 4* Special Loki, who I didn't have before. Pretty good troll, game

I pulled new Loki pretty early so I decided to (stupidly) go ahead and try for the +1 and I also got 4* Special Loki. Twice.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Spectral Werewolf posted:

I pulled new Loki pretty early so I decided to (stupidly) go ahead and try for the +1 and I also got 4* Special Loki. Twice.

The fact that I didn't have her yet so I got the slow, dramatic reveal animation was the icing on the cake imo :discourse:

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

Strange Matter posted:

My Emblem Ike tanked every battle through Infernal without trouble or even any support, really, outside of having an ally within Finish range. She kills him on Abyssal if unsupported, but a party of Mythic Lumera and Bunny Mirabilis gave him more than enough backup to finish her off.

Hmm. Maybe it'll be okay then. I do have Bunny Mirabalis but no Mythic Lumera.

Also I know I asked about this before but I'm trying to lock in the Summer and Winter Edelgard wombo combo. I want to run them in light season because my light team needs more help.

My available light Mythics are Ash, Askr, Eir, Dagr, Peony, Nerthuz. For quick and dirty I stuck them in with Askr and Peony, with a flying dancer with Guidance 4 to slingshot them in. Iirc the thing to do was give one or both an AoE special? I don't think I have an easy way to precharge that, even with Askr and the QP seal. Maybe I just stick Galeforce on both?

Help me suck less...

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_EN/status/1787678748751581308?t=OrXIWdXuyG3atwlmXV4KIg&s=19

Pretty good batch this time and best of all, no armors

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Right after having to spark Loki I free-pulled Lumera

gacha giveth and gacha taketh away

e: jeez look at this


One on-banner 5*, one off-banner 5* new to me, one 4* special (just Genny but still), one demote I hadn't pulled yet, and also Luthier. It's no full set of on-banners, but still the best first pull I've had in a while

loquacius fucked around with this message at 16:26 on May 8, 2024

SL the Pyro
Jun 16, 2013

My soul cries out
with the desire to
FRACTURE
your puny spine.


what do you mean that hotkey disappeared
Meanwhile on my end, Evil Veyle showed up on my first wheel alongside a Rosado. She was my primary target, so back to saving for Eke I go.

In other news... I don't know why I decided to challenge the final Lunatic story map with only Young Azura hopped up on Titania tactic buffs (only missing Speed), but I did. And succeeded.


Yes, I know Phantom Res was useless. That was a leftover from earlier Lumera attempts using Glacies.
Good job, little buddy. You can have this Evil Veyle's Crystalline Water as a treat later, once I decide if it's going straight to you or into a duplicator first.

...Memes aside, the new batch of Fallen units are spicy as expected. Though throughout this silliness I figured out ways to fight them:
  • Don't bother engaging with Evil Veyle's gimmick. Seriously, you're not winning that Res check, and removing her buddies to disable her gimmick is a whole other can of worms. Just thwack her with a melee. (Azura only got away with killing her through an AOE-Desperation triple-tap.)

  • Never let Morph Ursula initiate. Unless you've got Laguz Friend or Vantage ready, someone's going to explode and it probably won't be her.

  • Nergal can be safely dueled if he doesn't have enough individual buffs to insta-proc his Special. His stat buffs might take a chunk out of you, but a good tank can handle it easily.

  • Lumera's Scowl and mountains of damage reduction don't work very well against AOEs. Her base Res is also well within Ploy range, so a big Res unit can overcome her Scowl's Res check.

SL the Pyro fucked around with this message at 02:39 on May 9, 2024

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Played around with Severa and she owns but needs a C skill. What are people using

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