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ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



It's that time of year again, one of only two days in the entire calendar year where somewhat interesting NHL trades actually happen. A day when multiple sports networks devote a dedicated six hour segment to update us on the latest news that nothing is going on. A day of rumblings, phone checking, sources, and miserable reporters staked out in front of stadiums in the cold as if they actually believe they'll get a scoop that way.

That's right, it's the NHL TRADE DEADLINE! The league shut downs down trading as of 3:00 p.m. EST on Wednesday, March 1, 2017! But don't worry, trades will trickle in after that! So much so that people mentioning that trades 'trickling in' after the deadline is a cliche is now itself a cliche!

So what's happened so far

Nothing, unless you're one of three Flames fans who think Michael Stone could really solidify the team's bottom pairing.

Anything else?

No.

So who might get traded?

The big names are:

Kevin Shattenkirk - D - STL - A good puck mover that the Blues hate for some reason (mostly because he's about to get paid)
Gabriel Landeskog - RW - COL - The youngish Captain of the absolutely putrid Avs. He's a decent top line winger, but nothing special unless you really rate leadership*
Matt Duchene - C - COL - See above except he's not the captain and he actually puts up points
Martin Hanzal - LW - ARI - Apparently not the same person as Mikkel Boedker who got traded last year, but I have my doubts
Thomas Vanek - RW - DET - A scorer, something something fire Holland.

TSN's Trade Bait
NHL.com Top 20 Trade Targets

*Leading your team to the worst record in two decades is still a type of leadership

Who's selling?

Right now just the Avs, Wings and Yotes because the NHL's standings are so counter-intuitive and confusing that teams with a 2.5% chance of actually making the playoffs are still undecided about what to do.

Who's buying?

Honestly, probably not that many teams. The Penguins are well positioned to repeat so might add some depth to their defence. The Capitals are all about winning now so are probably most likely to swing a big trade, ditto San Jose. Chicago went big last year and kinda struck out, so I imagine they stay quiet. Everyone else is sorta middle ground or over the hill, so don't expect many fireworks from your team.

What excuse will your GM use after he does nothing this year?

The expansion draft is coming up and apparently the prospect of losing one bottom six forward to Las Vegas is enough to paralyze every GM in the league with fear.

Where can I watch this?

Don't, but if you must TSN, Sportsnet and NHL Network have shows that kick off around 9:00 a.m. and go on forever and absolutely nothing happens (aside from some unintentional Larry Davidesque moments). I can't find any broadcast specifics as of yet, but if I remember I'll update this later.

Who should I pay attention to?

Bob McKenzie - @TSNBobMcKenzie
Pierre LeBrun - @Real_ESPNLeBrun
Renaud Lavoie - @renlavoietva
Nick Kypreos - @RealKyper

A whole lotta other folks too but they're mostly FAKE NEWS.

Finally, will Jim Benning embarrass himself again?

Yes.

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Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Leafs probably aren't going to trade Polak, which is a real shame

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Koopa Kid posted:

Leafs probably aren't going to trade Polak, which is a real shame

There's still time for them to reacquire then trade Daniel Winnik again.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Koopa Kid posted:

Leafs probably aren't going to trade Polak, which is a real shame

Now that you've said this watch them trade him for Chris Tanev or something similarly above Polska true value (which is nothing).

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
The Rangers have supposedly been scouting the Kings a whole lot lately but a deadline trade between them seems weird or unlikely. They've also been scouting the Kings AHL team a lot which makes it seem like even if a deal is there it wouldn't be a big NHL player swap.

Kind of doubt the Rangers will do anything big...I think they'd like Shattenkirk if the price is right but they're also willing to wait until free agency starts to take their shot at him. I could just be wishfully thinking but I feel like the Rangers don't want to blow any more assets at this point since they finally have a 1st round pick and have used up so many assets in recent years. They don't have a lot left and need to start filling their bare cupboard.

A maybe out of nowhere deal could be something with Anaheim for a defenseman with one of the Rangers many forwards going the other way but I honestly can't see a guy in their lineup that they'd be cool with trading while they're also comfortably in a playoff spot and one of the better teams in the league. Like, Zucc for Vatanen could be an out of nowhere type of deal but it also sounds like Anaheim is determined to hold onto all of their D until they get a chance to trade them at the draft or something

Could maybe see a minor depth move but honestly that isn't even necessary

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



I doubt the Capitals will try to make a big trade at the deadline. They have no glaring holes on the roster and I can't see them giving away huge assets for someone like Shattenkirk or Duchene. They already traded for Tom Gilbert which was purely a depth move in case someone gets injured. Maybe they make a deal for a similar depth forward but I can't see much else.

I think they are much more likely to make a big trade in the offseason given likely holes in the roster due Oshie, Williams, and/or Alzner leaving as free agents and someone getting drafted by Vegas (likely Schmidt or Grubauer).

Mind_Taker fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Feb 21, 2017

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Mind_Taker posted:

I doubt the Capitals will try to make a big trade at the deadline. They have no glaring holes on the roster and I can't see them giving away huge assets for someone like Shattenkirk or Duchene. They already traded for Tom Gilbert which was purely a depth move in case someone gets injured. Maybe they make a deal for a similar depth forward but I can't see much else.

I think they are much more likely to make a big trade in the offseason given likely holes in the roster due Oshie, Williams, and/or Alzner leaving as free agents.

This really feels like the Caps big chance to go for it. They have a bunch of enticing young assets, and with players like Oshie, Williams, etc. leaving they'll likely not have a team this good for a while. I really don't see why they wouldn't load up right now. Ovie isn't getting any younger, and this is probably the year when the top assets will go a bit more cheaply.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



ThinkTank posted:

This really feels like the Caps big chance to go for it. They have a bunch of enticing young assets, and with players like Oshie, Williams, etc. leaving they'll likely not have a team this good for a while. I really don't see why they wouldn't load up right now. Ovie isn't getting any younger, and this is probably the year when the top assets will go a bit more cheaply.

I agree, I'd love to see them take a run at Shattenkirk in particular. After thinking about it there is a pretty glaring hole on the roster and it's both Alzner and Carlson. They get caved in every game in terms of possession, and Carlson's already been replaced by Niskanen on the first power play.

I don't really buy the whole adding a big piece will "ruin the chemistry" argument but unfortunately I think the general sense is that management is happy with the team and they actually are afraid of ruining the chemistry.

Anyone know what St. Louis's rumored asking price would be for Shattenkirk? I'd gladly give up a first rounder and a prospect for him, but are they asking for a roster player as well? I'd be hesitant giving up any roster player except like Tom Wilson.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
According to McKenzie neither Hoffman or Stone are in the lineup tonight. Could be doins a-transpirin'.

bub spank
Feb 1, 2005

the THRILL

El Gallinero Gros posted:

According to McKenzie neither Hoffman or Stone are in the lineup tonight. Could be doins a-transpirin'.

They both got injured on Sunday against the Jets. I don't expect Ottawa would be trading away 2 of its best 4 forwards when pushing for 1st in its division.

Ottawa also doesn't have the pieces to trade for a forward capable of replacing either of them without completely emptying the cupboard.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
You forgot to put Maf in there OP

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Someone trade for Andrew MacDonald tia

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

CBJ could use a center who can win draws, a depth defenseman, and maybe a backup to :cop:. I don't want Dalton Prout touching the ice again and I'm not totally sold on Korpisalo as a backup, but he's not terrible. Question is how much of the core do they give up to get it?

I'm expecting a slow day unless Jarmo pulls something out of nowhere like he did with Gaborik. Or Hartnell. Or Saad.

e- Though with $7M in Cap space ($11M with the Clarkson LTIR relief) and not many players to re-sign (Wennberg being the only big ticket item assuming Anderson gets claimed)...

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Feb 21, 2017

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Someone trade for Andrew MacDonald tia

they should get a nice haul for a top 3 defenseman in the league

sedative
Mar 20, 2003

‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ ‏ :allears:
This could be something or absolutely nothing

https://twitter.com/davegisaac/status/834100039962259457

UPDATE: Absolutely nothing

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/834105204467433479

sedative fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Feb 21, 2017

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

I hope the Leafs overpay for Shattenkirk and then fail to make the playoffs.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

WE HAVE A TRADE.

https://twitter.com/SWhyno/status/834107059343851521

That sure is a trade for some hockeymans.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

CBJSprague24 posted:

WE HAVE A TRADE.

https://twitter.com/SWhyno/status/834107059343851521

That sure is a trade for some hockeymans.

i was about to say samuelsson is a decent ahl player but he's got 5 points in 40 games, down from 31 in 56 last year

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

that sure is a trade alright

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

ThinkTank posted:

Finally, will Jim Benning embarrass himself again?

Yes.


Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Someone trade for Andrew MacDonald tia


Crap

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
Right now the current rumour is Jimbo might trade Hutton for help up front which would make me want to die.

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

3/18/2023: Day of the Dorks
The Playoff Push requires sacrifices.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Ginette Reno posted:

You forgot to put Maf in there OP

He is going to be bought out, no one is going to trade for that contract. :dealwithit:

Watch Benning or Nill trade for him

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Yaya posted:

Right now the current rumour is Jimbo might trade Hutton for help up front which would make me want to die.

Oh he will, then next year he'll deal a forward for a puck moving defenceman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91eIDu6Aw-8

Benning IRL

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
pls trade hutton to the rangers in exchange for matt puempel or brandon pirri

e: I don't even care that he shoots left

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Yaya posted:

Right now the current rumour is Jimbo might trade Hutton for help up front which would make me want to die.

lol what a dumb idea that would be

uh... please don't get any ideas Jim

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

JawKnee posted:

lol what a dumb idea that would be

uh... please don't get any ideas Jim

It's okay, neither of them was drafted by John Weisbrod or previously coached by Willie Desjardins so we're in the clear.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

hifi posted:

i was about to say samuelsson is a decent ahl player but he's got 5 points in 40 games, down from 31 in 56 last year

pretty much just a nepotism trade - ulf samuelsson coaches carolina's ahl team and philip is his son

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES
the rangers arent going to do anything i dont think

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

The Oilers are...buyers this year? :confused: No, that can't be right...

Joking aside, I doubt the Oilers do much this year. They mainly need a 3C if they want to keep Draisaitl on the wing, a top 4 RHD to replace Russell and a back-up goalie for Talbot. In a perfect world they'd get Brian Boyle, Shattenkirk and whoever's out there as a good back-up. In the same world they go 16-0 in the playoffs and win their 1st of 5 Stanley Cups in a row. Reality is they might get Boyle if they really want him (for a 1st which is...oh, it's not top 5, but still, a 1st) but that's it. Chiarelli already had a press conference where he basically said he won't be very active at the trade deadline, so there you go.

Really, just having Pouliot, Eberle, Nuge and Lucic actually produce would be good enough.

ThinkTank posted:

Who should I pay attention to?

Bob McKenzie - @TSNBobMcKenzie
Pierre LeBrun - @Real_ESPNLeBrun
Renaud Lavoie - @renlavoietva
Nick Kypreos - @RealKyper

A whole lotta other folks too but they're mostly FAKE NEWS.

You should also add Friedman (@FriedgeHNIC) to this list.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Kilza posted:

Really, just having Pouliot, Eberle, Nuge and Lucic actually produce would be good enough.

Rotate them through a line with McDavid. There, problem solved.

Albino Squirrel
Apr 25, 2003

Miosis more like meiosis

Schlesische posted:

Rotate them through a line with McDavid. There, problem solved.
Tried that, didn't work at least in the case of Lucic.

We'll see how Broissoit does tonight, I can see the Oilers relying on him for the very occasional backup. Shouldn't take more than a third for a rental goalie this year even if he doesn't do well.

Really, I'm just happy if they don't do anything stupid like sign Russell.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


I just bought a Gudas shirtsey too. If he was traded, I probably would either never buy one again or try and locate an A-Mac one lol they don't exist

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/834782988403605504

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Real talk: I didn't realize Ron Hainsey was still in the league

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
Sell everyone Ray

Also

Koopa Kid posted:

Real talk: I didn't realize Ron Hainsey was still in the league

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
The gunslinger strikes again

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Koopa Kid posted:

Real talk: I didn't realize Ron Hainsey was still in the league

Ditto, I think I last recall him playing for the Atlanta Thrashers.

e: After 900 games, this will be Hainsey's first appearance in the post-season.

ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Feb 23, 2017

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

ThinkTank posted:

So who might get traded?

Andreas Athanasiou - Fast Guy - DET: A middle-6 outcast who is forced to the fringe by Riley Sheahan and Steve Ott

Who's selling?

Not Ken Holland

Who's buying?

Ken Holland

What excuse will your GM make when he trades tangible assets for an aging veteran on an expiring deal?

We really feel that Jerome helps us win now; it's hard to put a price on veteran leadership and what he brings to the table. Anthony is a small price to pay to fill that void, and moving him gives us flexibility for the upcoming expansion draft.

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grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
An overpay for a guy like Hainsey but I guess that's what happens when everyone knows you're desperate.

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