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Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQQKXNKBuFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxs-lHN-X2w

Is this really gay? Just two brothers who want to shoot protein from their heads.

Lodin fucked around with this message at 10:06 on May 24, 2017

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Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I say that every prince must desire to be considered merciful and not cruel. He must, however, take care not to misuse this mercifulness. … A prince, therefore, must not mind incurring the charge of cruelty for the purpose of keeping his subjects united and confident; for, with a very few examples, he will be more merciful than those who, from excess of tenderness, allow disorders to arise, from whence spring murders and rapine; for these as a rule injure the whole community, while the executions carried out by the prince injure only one individual. And of all princes, it is impossible for a new prince to escape the name of cruel, new states being always full of dangers. … Nevertheless, he must be cautious in believing and acting, and must not inspire fear of his own accord, and must proceed in a temperate manner with prudence and humanity, so that too much confidence does not render him incautious, and too much diffidence does not render him intolerant. From this arises the question whether it is better to be loved more than feared, or feared more than loved. The reply is, that one ought to be both feared and loved, but as it is difficult for the two to go together, it is much safer to be feared than loved, if one of the two has to be wanting. For it may be said of men in general that they are ungrateful, voluble, dissemblers, anxious to avoid danger, and covetous of gain ; as long as you benefit them, they are entirely yours; they offer you their blood, their goods, their life, and their children, as I have before said, when the necessity is remote; but when it approaches, they revolt. And the prince who has relied solely on their words, without making other preparations, is ruined, for the friendship which is gained by purchase and not through grandeur and nobility of spirit is merited but is not secured, and at times is not to be had. And men have less scruple in offending one who makes himself loved than one who makes himself feared; for love is held by a chain of obligation which, men being selfish, is broken whenever it serves their purpose; but fear is maintained by a dread of punishment which never fails.

How laudable it is for a prince to keep good faith and live with integrity, and not with astuteness, every one knows. Still the experience of our times shows those princes to have done great things who have had little regard for good faith, and have been able by astuteness to confuse men's brains, and who have ultimately overcome those who have made loyalty their foundation. You must know, then, that there are two methods of fighting, the one by law, the other by force: the first method is that of men, the second of beasts; but as the first method is often insufficient, one must have recourse to the second. It is therefore necessary to know well how to use both the beast and the man. This was covertly taught to princes by ancient writers, who relate how Achilles and many others of those princes were given to Chiron the centaur to be brought up, who kept them under his discipline; this system of having for teacher one who was half beast and half man is meant to indicate that a prince must know how to use both natures, and that the one without the other is not durable. A prince being thus obliged to know well how to act as a beast must imitate the fox and the lion, for the lion cannot protect himself from snares, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognise snares, and a lion to frighten wolves. Those that wish to be only lions do not understand this. Therefore, a prudent ruler ought not to keep faith when by so doing it would be against his interest, and when the reasons which made him bind himself no longer exist. If men were all good, this precept would not be a good one; but as they are bad, and would not observe their faith with you, so you are not bound to keep faith with them. ...those that have been best able to imitate the fox have succeeded best. But it is necessary to be able to disguise this character well, and to be a great feigner and dissembler.

The prince must consider, as has been in part said before, how to avoid those things which will make him hated or contemptible; and as often as he shall have succeeded he will have fulfilled his part, and he need not fear any danger in other reproaches. It makes him hated above all things, as I have said, to be rapacious, and to be a violator of the property and women of his subjects, from both of which he must abstain. And when neither their property nor honour is touched, the majority of men live content, and he has only to contend with the ambition of a few, whom he can curb with ease in many ways. It makes him contemptible to be considered fickle, frivolous, effeminate, mean-spirited, irresolute, from all of which a prince should guard himself as from a rock; and he should endeavour to show in his actions greatness, courage, gravity, and fortitude; and in his private dealings with his subjects let him show that his judgments are irrevocable, and maintain himself in such reputation that no one can hope either to deceive him or to get round him. That prince is highly esteemed who conveys this impression of himself, and he who is highly esteemed is not easily conspired against; for, provided it is well known that he is an excellent man and revered by his people, he can only be attacked with difficulty.

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
BUT the difficulties occur in a new
principality. And firstly, if it be not
entirely new, but is, as it were, a member
of a state which, taken collectively, may be called
composite, the changes arise chiefly from an
inherent difficulty which there is in all new
principalities; for men change their rulers
willingly, hoping to better themselves, and this
hope induces them to take up arms against him
who rules: wherein they are deceived, because they
afterwards find by experience they have gone from
bad to worse. This follows also on another natural
and common necessity, which always causes a new
prince to burden those who have submitted to him
with his soldiery and with infinite other hardships
which he must put upon his new acquisition.
In this way you have enemies in all those whom
you have injured in seizing that principality, and
you are not able to keep those friends who put you
there because of your not being able to satisfy them
in the way they expected, and you cannot take
strong measures against them, feeling bound to
them. For, although one may be very strong in
armed forces, yet in entering a province one has
always need of the goodwill of the natives.
For these reasons Louis XII, King of France,
quickly occupied Milan, and as quickly lost it; and
to turn him out the first time it only needed
Lodovico's own forces; because those who had
opened the gates to him, finding themselves
deceived in their hopes of future benefit, would not
endure the ill-treatment of the new prince. It is
very true that, after acquiring rebellious provinces
a second time, they are not so lightly lost
afterwards, because the prince, with little
reluctance, takes the opportunity of the rebellion to
punish the delinquents, to clear out the suspects,
and to strengthen himself in the weakest places.
Thus to cause France to lose Milan the first time it
was enough for the Duke Lodovico to raise
insurrections on the borders; but to cause him to
lose it a second time it was necessary to bring the
whole world against him, and that his armies
should be defeated and driven out of Italy; which
followed from the causes above mentioned.
Nevertheless Milan was taken from France both
the first and the second time. The general reasons
for the first have been discussed; it remains to
name those for the second, and to see what
resources he had, and what any one in his situation
would have had for maintaining himself more
securely in his acquisition than did the King of
France.
Now I say that those dominions which, when
acquired, are added to an ancient state by him who
acquires them, are either of the same country and
language, or they are not. When they are, it is
easier to hold them, especially when they have not
been accustomed to self-government; and to hold
them securely it is enough to have destroyed the
family of the prince who was ruling them; because
the two peoples, preserving in other things the old
conditions, and not being unlike in customs, will
live quietly together, as one has seen in Brittany,
Burgundy, Gascony, and Normandy, which have
been bound to France for so long a time: and,
although there may be some difference in
language, nevertheless the customs are alike, and
the people will easily be able to get on amongst
themselves. He who has annexed them, if he
wishes to hold them, has only to bear in mind two
considerations: the one, that the family of their
former lord is extinguished; the other, that neither
their laws nor their taxes are altered, so that in a
very short time they will become entirely one body
with the old principality.
But when states are acquired in a country
differing in language, customs, or laws, there are
difficulties, and good fortune and great energy are
needed to hold them, and one of the greatest and
most real helps would be that he who has acquired
them should go and reside there. This would make
his position more secure and durable, as it has
made that of the Turk in Greece, who,
notwithstanding all the other measures taken by
him for holding that state, if he had not settled
there, would not have been able to keep it.
Because, if one is on the spot, disorders are seen as
they spring up, and one can quickly remedy them;
but if one is not at hand, they heard of only when
they are one can no longer remedy them. Besides
this, the country is not pillaged by your officials;
the subjects are satisfied by prompt recourse to the
prince; thus, wishing to be good, they have more
cause to love him, and wishing to be otherwise, to
fear him. He who would attack that state from the
outside must have the utmost caution; as long as
the prince resides there it can only be wrested from
him with the greatest difficulty.
The other and better course is to send colonies
to one or two places, which may be as keys to that
state, for it necessary either to do this or else to
keep there a great number of cavalry and infantry.
A prince does not spend much on colonies, for
with little or no expense he can send them out and
keep them there, and he offends a minority only of
the citizens from whom he takes lands and houses
to give them to the new inhabitants; and those
whom he offends, remaining poor and scattered,
are never able to injure him; whilst the rest being
uninjured are easily kept quiet, and at the same
time are anxious not to err for fear it should
happen to them as it has to those who have been
despoiled. In conclusion, I say that these colonies
are not costly, they are more faithful, they injure
less, and the injured, as has been said, being poor
and scattered, cannot hurt. Upon this, one has to
remark that men ought either to be well treated or
crushed, because they can avenge themselves of
lighter injuries, of more serious ones they cannot;
therefore the injury that is to be done to a man
ought to be of such a kind that one does not stand
in fear of revenge.
But in maintaining armed men there in place of
colonies one spends much more, having to
consume on the garrison all income from the state,
so that the acquisition turns into a loss, and many
more are exasperated, because the whole state is
injured; through the shifting of the garrison up and
down all become acquainted with hardship, and all
become hostile, and they are enemies who, whilst
beaten on their own ground, are yet able to do hurt.
For every reason, therefore, such guards are as
useless as a colony is useful.
Again, the prince who holds a country differing
in the above respects ought to make himself the
head and defender of his powerful neighbours, and
to weaken the more powerful amongst them,
taking care that no foreigner as powerful as himself
shall, by any accident, get a footing there; for it
will always happen that such a one will be
introduced by those who are discontented, either
through excess of ambition or through fear, as one
has seen already. The Romans were brought into
Greece by the Aetolians; and in every other
country where they obtained a footing they were
brought in by the inhabitants. And the usual course
of affairs is that, as soon as a powerful foreigner
enters a country, all the subject states are drawn to
him, moved by the hatred which they feel against
the ruling power. So that in respect to these subject
states he has not to take any trouble to gain them
over to himself, for the whole of them quickly rally
to the state which he has acquired there. He has
only to take care that they do not get hold of too
much power and too much authority, and then with
his own forces, and with their goodwill, he can
easily keep down the more powerful of them, so as
to remain entirely master in the country. And he
who does not properly manage this business will
soon lose what he has acquired, and whilst he does
hold it he will have endless difficulties and
troubles.

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Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn
Good stuff 💦

Svdl
May 9, 2006

Around the world
It's not gay if it's art

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Svdl posted:

It's not gay if it's art

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Its Gay - The Critic

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNGeu-qnREA

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



So sick of degenerate cultural marxists infiltrating popular media to cram their thick veiny agendas down our virgin gamer throats

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Japan has a strange idea of masculinity

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Uncle Wemus posted:

Japan has a strange idea of masculinity

Getting nuked twice really fucks people up I imagine.

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Getting occupied and having a hosed up version of Christian values pushed on them probably has more to do with it.

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
But then again, you are a Deak.

E: And yes I know this is not the Deak. Deak.

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Is that some sort of racial slur?

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

I think its super funny how in japan being buff is like a defining trait of the gay stereotype, while the dreamboats that the women lust after are these puny little dudes with long hair and feminine faces.

It's the exact opposite from most other countries and it's just so japan.

Masaki Sumitani: plays japanese TV character "Hard Gay", propably one of the most known gay stereotypical characters in the country



Matusmoto Jun: Appearantly one of the most famout actors, singers, media personality and chick magnet?



lol

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Son of Rodney posted:

I think its super funny how in japan being buff is like a defining trait of the gay stereotype, while the dreamboats that the women lust after are these puny little dudes with long hair and feminine faces.

It's the exact opposite from most other countries and it's just so japan.

Masaki Sumitani: plays japanese TV character "Hard Gay", propably one of the most known gay stereotypical characters in the country



Matusmoto Jun: Appearantly one of the most famout actors, singers, media personality and chick magnet?



lol

Most average woman think giant muscle men are kind of gross. They seem to prefer the lean toned body.

Japan is correct whereas American media is run by homosexuals

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Most average woman think giant muscle men are kind of gross. They seem to prefer the lean toned body.

Japan is correct whereas American media is run by homosexuals

just say you like twinks, dude. there's no shame in it and no one thinks you are hetero.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Girly boys are the fuckin best tbh

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

Aw it's a cho aniki thread. Finally a thread where nobody could possibly be triggered.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



SAme. Glad their aren't SJWSs, in here.

Twelve Batmans
Dec 24, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Seanbaby wrote an article over it years ago and I don't know if anything I read about this game here will be funnier than that. :smug:

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

Whoops I got to the second post. My bad

welcome 2 Clown Town
Aug 1, 2006

GALAXY'S #2 SCULL*!

*scrunt skull
i dont think id like this game op sorry but thanks for sharing in the games forum here

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

~sexy

Manchild King
Oct 22, 2010
Misogynistic, self-absorbed, incredibly unfunny asshole. BLOCK ME or I will steal your face for creepy fetish porn!
The gameplay mechanics are fairly poor compared to others in the genre. I think most of the appeal is supposed to be in the *Japan so crazy!* setting.

unpleasantly turgid
Jul 6, 2016

u lightweights couldn't even feed my shadow ;*

Doing god's work

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
Mods please embed the song "Tarzan Boy" by Baltimora into this thread like you used to do.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
American media and fashion is dominated By homosexuals. Is it any wonder that they have no idea how to make women appealing to men or men appealing to women?

Manchild King
Oct 22, 2010
Misogynistic, self-absorbed, incredibly unfunny asshole. BLOCK ME or I will steal your face for creepy fetish porn!
Nothin' more American than baseball, apple pie and Cho Aniki.

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.
Chode aniki. :rolleyes:

Muscle fags are the worst. Slim buttboys for life.

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Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Son of Rodney posted:

I think its super funny how in japan being buff is like a defining trait of the gay stereotype, while the dreamboats that the women lust after are these puny little dudes with long hair and feminine faces.

It's the exact opposite from most other countries and it's just so japan.

Masaki Sumitani: plays japanese TV character "Hard Gay", propably one of the most known gay stereotypical characters in the country



Matusmoto Jun: Appearantly one of the most famout actors, singers, media personality and chick magnet?



lol

lol have you ever spoken to a woman?

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