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So I just checked Amazon (the UK store) and the price for a stick of 8GB DDR4 (HyperX Fury or Corsair Vengeanace) were ranging about £80-£100, and a 4GB stick was between £40-£50. Which is ridiculous, because months ago, and a year back, they were about £60-£70 (for 8GB) and £15-£30 (for 4GB). Then on closer inspection, I checked the different versions of RAM speed and there's only 2 types available, 2400MHz and 2666MHz. (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UVN2C8O/ref=twister_B076J219KJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) (https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-FUR...ywords=8gb+ddr4) (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MG2AAZG/ref=twister_B06XX9J1TF?_encoding=UTF8&th=1) Why the hell aren't HyperX and Corsair restocking more RAM, how are they more expensive all of a sudden?
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Corsair and Hyper X are forced to pay more by the manufacturers. Basically all of the consumer facing brands are just repackaging more generic modules. Other manufacturers are buying up all of the stock so they're forced to pay more. I thought I was being smart only getting 16GB of DDR4 in 2015 because those were early adopter prices. I paid half what prices are now. Phones, consoles, and videocards are taking up all of the capacity, manufacturers need to decide how they're going to dedicate their manufacturing capacity and consumer DDR4 is a lower priority also because people have proved that they will pay more and computer building hasn't stopped so they'll keep at it at these lower priority levels until external demand falls and they switch over manufacturing or they'll make a new factory and all of a sudden demand will drop and then they're in the opposite problem of way too much manufacturing compared to the demand. That's why it's not as simple as building more factories, they don't want to get into a bad situation for themselves.
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Nov 24, 2017 02:02
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In addition to all that, RAM manufacturers have been found guilty of collusive price-fixing on multiple past occasions and it wouldn't shock me if the same thing was happening again. Beyond the active, highly illegal sort, there's also the passive sort where you just don't bother to increase manufacturing capacity as long as your competitors aren't either. Semiconductor fabs take a long time to bring online, so any of them will have ample notice if the others are increasing capacity before it actually affects pricing directly.
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Nov 24, 2017 02:30
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I ended up paying 130 for 16 gigs of DDR3. I was hoping to get a deal this week, but I actually ended up paying 20 bucks more than if I had pulled the trigger on a sale newegg had some months ago.
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Nov 24, 2017 04:55
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I have 8gb of DDR3 that i bought in 2012, thinking 'oh i'll buy more when games start to need it' and i want to fuckin' die. More than doubled in price in the last two years or so. I'm almost tempted to sell it for the profit and buy more of a worse speed. Between this and the cryptocurrency poo poo affecting video cards it's an atrocious time to get a new high end computer.
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Jan 30, 2018 14:04
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Wallrod posted:I have 8gb of DDR3 that i bought in 2012, thinking 'oh i'll buy more when games start to need it' and i want to fuckin' die. More than doubled in price in the last two years or so. I'm almost tempted to sell it for the profit and buy more of a worse speed. Between this and the cryptocurrency poo poo affecting video cards it's an atrocious time to get a new high end computer. Yeah I just got a mid range prebuilt that I got 10% off on
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Jan 30, 2018 14:27
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Wallrod posted:I have 8gb of DDR3 that i bought in 2012, thinking 'oh i'll buy more when games start to need it' and i want to fuckin' die. More than doubled in price in the last two years or so. I'm almost tempted to sell it for the profit and buy more of a worse speed. Between this and the cryptocurrency poo poo affecting video cards it's an atrocious time to get a new high end computer. 2015: Oh boy, I'll hold off on getting a new computer, nothing out right now to really stress my current setup. Present day: 
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Feb 2, 2018 09:54
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I bought this exact kit for just under £200 last year thinking that was a bit steep but it was 32gb. Now look at the price haha.
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Feb 2, 2018 10:30
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Probably collusion which they have done many times in the past. Then they get slapped with a $100-200M fine which is less than the tens of billions they made from doing it, and do it again later. By they I mean Samsung, Hynix etc, not Corsair or whatever.
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Feb 2, 2018 23:44
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Alpha Mayo posted:Probably collusion which they have done many times in the past. Then they get slapped with a $100-200M fine which is less than the tens of billions they made from doing it, and do it again later. Modern society is incredibly forgiving of financial crime perpetuated by megacorps and top 1%ers to the point even the have-nots thinks there's nothing wrong with it.
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Feb 3, 2018 05:12
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It's because those companies/people are wealth/job creators, and they wouldn't want to put laws in place that limit how successful somebody is allowed to be, as they will undoubtedly be in that position themselves in a few years.
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Feb 3, 2018 15:06
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whos gonna be the one to tell OP about gpu's? e: beaten. nothing to see here.
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Feb 4, 2018 02:41
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The answer to most most “why is x bad/getting worse” is basically capitalism So get used to it because this train ain’t got brakes
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Wheeee posted:The answer to most most “why is x bad/getting worse” is basically capitalism I get that GPU prices are going through the roof thanks to cryptocurrency mining making a buzz, but why are RAM chips falling into that same category. Now it costs about 30 - 50 bucks for just basic ram, and it you want more for gaming or production, you have to spend nearly 200 bucks or MORE or 32 gigs. I get that's how capitalism works but this poo poo is going too far.
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Feb 4, 2018 07:24
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Junior Jr. posted:I get that's how capitalism works but this poo poo is going too far. 
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Feb 4, 2018 20:14
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Wheeee posted:The answer to most most “why is x bad/getting worse” is basically capitalism While these posts are funny, if you think they're insightful then you need to tell me what socialist revolution lowered RAM prices in the first place.
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Feb 4, 2018 21:48
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Isn't it a mix of a couple of factors? Some price collusion, a lot of phones using DDR memory, limited supply? Just glad I found 16gb / 2400 for $75 on CraigsList.
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Feb 4, 2018 21:56
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Craptacular! posted:While these posts are funny, if you think they're insightful then you need to tell me what socialist revolution lowered RAM prices in the first place. It's important to remember that a socialist revolution is the only alternative. None exist in between the two options, such a shame.
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Feb 4, 2018 22:25
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Craptacular! posted:While these posts are funny, if you think they're insightful then you need to tell me what socialist revolution lowered RAM prices in the first place. lol oh yes, good rebuttal you aren't equipped for a serious discussion
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Feb 5, 2018 00:51
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Craptacular! posted:While these posts are funny, if you think they're insightful then you need to tell me what socialist revolution lowered RAM prices in the first place. I agree, companies getting dinged for price fixing might as well require a socialist revolution in this timeline.
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Feb 5, 2018 14:54
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Wheeee posted:you aren't equipped for a serious discussion Yeah and “this train ain’t got brakes” is some next-level Serious Material.
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runoverbobby posted:Yeah and “this train ain’t got brakes” is some next-level Serious Material. Capitalism is predicated on transferring wealth into fewer and fewer hands, this ain't rocket science Craptacular! posted:While these posts are funny, if you think they're insightful then you need to tell me what socialist revolution lowered RAM prices in the first place. Lol
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runoverbobby posted:Yeah and “this train ain’t got brakes” is some next-level Serious Material. lol you don't even understand the post you quoted hint: it wasnt a critique of his vernacular
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