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Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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If he out I'm in so I can ruin the all star cast

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Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude
Wait am I playing or does no one like me or both?

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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I didn’t either. RF certainly has lost a step

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Actually it’s CC, he said he would be mean in his first case

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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I need more proof before I’ll vote asiina

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Guys I am starting to doubt CC’s claim. I think he’s just a d0 cop and not a self watcher bulletproof

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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flerp posted:

keane wouldnt lie :mad:

Hmm the only way you would know is if you knew Asiina’s role and actions hmmm

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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CCKeane posted:

I never claimed bulletproof...how would you know...unless you tried to kill me?

How else would you be able to survive Asiina visited you if she’s scum? Bad case bad player.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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GeneX posted:

I already soft-claimed jesus by saying I was jewish in this christmas themed game, so yes, 100%

my nonexistant role pm was the entirety of the gospel of matthew with "you're town" at the bottom

Time for hamfistedly telling people you are VT is over ##vote genesus Christ

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Monathin posted:

Check up is doctor softclaim, cmon, get it together

A visiting doctor? Sounds like a poisoner

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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CCKeane posted:

And with this, jokephase is over.

##vote Monathin

I think you’ll find gene is much more insidious

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Bus the new guy!!!????

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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bus the new guy who isn’t really new but would like a newbie pass

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Bus the new guy who rolled over and offered to claim as soon as he had one (1) vote on him

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Mona come back I want to chat and then murder you

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Busssss!?! (it’s when scum try to lynch each other for town cred)

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Oh I didn’t know Mona voted you I thought it was only CC

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Gene I meant gene voted you

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Hello Mona do you think gene is scum

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Mona you have my permission to vote the scum named gene

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Quidthulhu posted:

This is a misrepresentation. He said:


Which on first glance I read as “that’s weird to offer to claim” and then said “oh wait no that’s not actually what he meant.”

Did you misread, YPM, or were you hoping to sneak in some suspicion amidst your jokephase yelling :raise:

I misread it, but I also definitely was trying to raise suspicion on him and really didn’t try to read it carefully

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Monathin posted:

I dunno if Gene is scum but first to vote + obviously targetting the odd duck out reads to me as something that could fly under the radar easily while theoretically scoring an easy D1 mislynch.

It reads to me as an awkward entrance by scum who is voting for someone that they can safely switch off of.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Hal Incandenza posted:

YPM why are you picking on new players. That's not very christmasy of you

I hate them

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Quidthulhu posted:

YPM’s “I wasn’t really reading his content well because I just wanted to make him look susp” isn’t sitting great with me.

I didn’t say I wanted to make him look suspicious. I said that I want to put suspicion on him because, get this, it’s loving day 1 and I don’t know who is scum so I gotta yell a bit about nothing until something happens. You know this. What do you think about Gene?

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Monathin posted:

Hey YPM while the shoe is on the other foot: why did you think Gene was suspicious if you hadnt read him voting me at the start of the day?

His casual mention of being vanilla town. It read forced.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Asiina posted:

Yeah, that is a very odd phrase.

I don't know why scum would be so blatant about it though. I'm assuming he meant something other than "I was trying to make a fake case but wasn't paying attention."

So YPM what did you mean by that?

I wasn’t trying to make a case (meaning, trying to convince others to lynch him). I was trying to put pressure on him to see how he responded.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Hi flerp. If you refuse to latch yourself to Mona’s airtight case involving Gene’s inexcusable confusion over fake sports leagues, is there anyone you would like us to brutally murder

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Quid. Everyone makes everything out of nothing on day 1. You are barking up the wrong tree and it’s weird. Me not having much of a case is like surface level scummy but if you think about it for two seconds you realize that it’s day 1 and it’s either this or no lynch.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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What the gently caress is an RVS

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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What if quid is the scum how crazy

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Quidthulhu posted:

I’d love for you to case me instead of continuing to prove my case regarding you throwing poo poo to see what sticks :allears:

Okey dokies. You know better. You know how day 1 works. You really think that I’m going to have a slam dunk case on Gene? Like do you really think that I would believe in my heart of hearts Gene is scum because he hamfistedly mentioned vanilla town? I thought it was minor evidence, but minor evidence was all I had just like every town ever on day one barring role madness games. I make a mountain out of that mole hill, someone attacks that mole hill, someone attacks that person for attacking that mole hill, and someone eventually does something of substance enough that a real case is born. I am just more open about what I’m doing than others.

Same with Hal. You “caught” Hal with a limpwristed contradiction. You can look at it for two seconds and say “hmm flerp also said something positive about Gene’s response” and perhaps conclude that Hal was impressed by the temerity of Gene’s response instead of the substance, which is basically what Hal said.

My point is you aren’t looking for scum. You are looking for a case, surface level scummy behavior that you, as potential scum, could hang your hat on and pretend to be scumhunting. And if you were a newbie, it would be one thing, but you’ve been part of a bunch of day ones and know how it goes. Yet you specifically and, I would say, deliberately, tried to derail the pressure on Gene while admitted that you only tangentially read the pressure on him. It demonstrates no thought in your posting or your hunting, just searching for out of context bits that you can use to pretend to case someone despite knowing their alignment.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Quidthulhu posted:

That doesn’t even make sense. You are in the same breath defending yourself for poking at people to see how it snowballs, then calling me potential scum for doing what, by your account, seems to be the exact same behavior.

If you were just doing what I was doing, and not, say, trying to find an easy target, why did you jump on me for it? If I was mirroring your behavior, I would have thrown shade at CC for casing a poor newbie

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Quidthulhu posted:

Because I don’t see you offering any real opinions. There’s a difference between asking everyone what they think of other people while throwing out broad suspicions (what I see you doing) and asking people you are suspicious of to explain their actions (where I started) and then moving in to opinions on case. The latter is grounded in your OWN thoughts and feelings; the former just looks like faking it.

What is it you feel I am doing that is different from what you are doing?

First of all, how would I possibly have real opinions at that point? How do you possibly have real opinions at this point? You yell and complain and see how people react and the get real opinions. The idea that you expect anyone to have any hard opinions is ridiculous

The difference is you didn’t show your work. You wrote down the answer (that I was being scummy) without even thoroughly reading what was going on. I don’t have hard opinions right now, and the fact that you have hard opinions doesn’t show a real conclusion on your part. Hell, the fact that you think it’s possible or good to have hard opinions right now shows you are removed from the town mindset.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Quidthulhu posted:

Maybe we just play D1 differently? I’m having a hard time believing you are writing all this with genuine intent. I’ve never seen you get on, say, Inf for being 100% certain he was right about reading someone based on a tangential gut read, at least not in a format that caused you to write five paragraphs about it.

I’ve gotten on Inf plenty of times. The game that I recently played with him that I didn’t really get on him were special circumstances where I wanted him to think I was scum so I was super buddying up to him. Unfortunately it worked on everyone but him. Like I’ve been called scum in every game because I’m aggressive.

I have become uninterested in brutally murdering you

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Because it read as town defending his play style rather than scum defending his alignment.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Quidthulhu posted:

So are you saying you can’t form any opinions on anyone until you engage them directly or something? I really want to ask you who you think are scum right now but I am getting the feeling you’re gonna be all “too early for opinions,” and I think you can see why that’s frustrating and suspicious.

I think Gene is scum due to his forced posting which is why I voted him. I don’t have any other scum reads.

Quid, one day you’ll realize that I yell and batter at people in good faith

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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GeneX posted:

That sure was a slapfight over D1 pressuring people for the sake of mediocre reads, yup.

nice to know that while either of you might be scum, you probably aren't both scum

You continue to amaze

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Asiina posted:

Okay I will do this.

i think flerp and Quid are being very townie.

I don't think YPM's initial case being forced is bad because it's D1 and cases are going to be terrible. That said, this is real bad.


There are still 2 days left in D1 and you're saying that your original throwing things at the wall and see what sticks case is the only way to go or we no lynch?

That's crazy and doesn't match the trying to pull us out of jokephase narrative you've been saying.

Although actually as I'm writing this and reading this post again I think maybe he means bad cases are all we have to go on or else we'd be resigned to no lynching. YPM is that what you mean?

I should probably erase all the rest of that but too bad, we're stream of conscious-ing this poo poo.

Moving on to this post:


Yes, I was saying we would no lynch otherwise. No lynching is bad that's my opinion I hope you like it

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Also what does biting off way more than I can handle even mean? Mona are you scum after I decided not to murder you?

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Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

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Asiina posted:

Right but are you saying it's either a bad case or no lynch OR your bad case or no lynch?

There's a difference but I don't know if I'm being clear about it.

A bad case or no lynch. All day 1 cases are bad.

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