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| Verity Lambert |
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| Barry Letts |
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| John Nathan-Turner |
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| Russell T Davies |
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| Steven Moffat |
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| Chris Chibnall (I am from the future) |
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 After four years and (soon to be) 40 episodes, Peter Capaldi's tenure as Doctor is coming to an end. At his announcement, many presumed he would be the first Doctor to use the C-word in a televised story. As it turned out, the 12th Doctor would be the 'acceptance' Doctor, one who came to recognize his shortcomings and use them to make the universe a better place. Capaldi played the Doctor as if he was trying to have fun for the first time in a long time, and for some people he took too long to find that 'fun'. No one can deny the strong choice of casting him, however. It was a bold move, having a Doctor as old as Hartnell was in 1963 come in after a string of actors aged 40 and younger playing the action hero type. This is Doctor Who, however, and with death comes regeneration. The 13th Doctor, played by Jodie Whittaker, is...well, we don't know anything yet. Much like when Russell T Davies handed the reigns to Steven Moffat, the new Doctor will have lines written specially by the new showruner, Chris Chibnall in the closing scene of the previous regime's final episode. How will the 13 act differently from 12? We probably won't know until Autumn 2018, because the new Doctors get, at most, a minute's worth of screen time to say "why aren't I ginger yet?" And then BEEEEEYOOOOOO THE DOCTOR WILL RETURN IN The Evil of Evil Anyway! As if you've forgotten, this year's Christmas special, Twice Upon a Time features The poll? Well, a few years ago I made this exact poll to see what people liked the best. I think with Moffat leaving the show, it's time to revisit the topic. Please note that not every producer is listed; I removed the ones that got >1% of the results from last time. The previous thread can be found here. Now for the formalities. NO SPOILERS By edict of the moderators, this is a SPOILER-FREE ZONE. Other than backstage stuff (hiring people), DO NOT POST SPOILERS. AT ALL. Even if the Washington Post reveals video of Donald Trump handing a big stack of government secrets to Vladimir Putin and one of the papers is labeled 'Martha Jones is a Rutan', DON'T POST IT HERE. If you must post about spoilers, go to the spoiler thread. Episode titles can be spoiler-y, so use discretion when discussing episodes yet to air. For example, 'Hide' doesn't spoil anything, but 'OH poo poo IT'S THE DALEKS' does. HOWEVER, the moment HRH the Q lays eyes on the program(me), it is no longer a spoiler. If you are a Johnny Foreigner like myself, you'd best stay away from this thread from Christmas Day until you watch the episode. It's the price we pay for not paying a license. WHERE DO I START? If you want to start with the revival, you should start with The Pilot. This doesn't mean to disregard the nine series from 2005-2016, but it's a good getting-on point. If you want to watch the original series, there are plenty of places to start. You COULD start with An Unearthly Child and watch everything in chronological order. You could also watch individual serials of all the Doctors and determine which you like the best. Keep in mind, don't shotgun a whole Hartnell or Troughton in one go, or else you'll get complacent. Those 60's episodes are meant to be seen one at a time, and if you only just rented the DVD, wait a few hours between episodes. The most popular serials for the original series you can jump into are: First Doctor: An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs Second Doctor: The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Carnival of Monsters Fourth Doctor: Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death Fifth Doctor: Kinda, Frontios Sixth Doctor: Vengeance on Varos, Revelation of the Daleks Seventh Doctor: Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks WHERE CAN I WATCH DOCTOR WHO? If you're an American, you're in luck! You can watch the original run of Doctor Who both on TV (Retro TV and some PBS stations) and online (via BritBox*)! If you're not an American, I'm sorry but you'll have to buy or rent the episodes on DVD. For the current run: ON TELEVISION UK - BBC One (first run), Watch USA - BBC America (first run), most PBS stations Canada - Space Australia - ABC1 (first run), ABC ME, Syfy STREAMING UK - Netflix USA - Amazon Video Canada - CraveTV Australia - Netflix & Stan *Day of the Daleks, Planet of the Daleks, the Five Doctors, Resurrection of the Daleks, Revelation of the Daleks, and Remembrance of the Daleks are not available, along with any serial missing at least one episode. SHOULD I BUY THE DVDs AND BLU RAYS? Just for the bonus features alone. THE NOT-AT-ALL BRIEF GUIDE TO BIG FINISH There are hundreds, probably thousands of Doctor Who and Doctor Who-related audio dramas released by Big Finish Productions. This is not a post telling you what audio dramas to listen to, because everyone has an opinion that is different from everyone else (some people like Minuet in Hell, believe it or not). This is a post telling you the basic info on the different series of titles there are. I'm only covering ongoing ranges, since devoting a paragraph to the Stage Plays seems a bit silly. If you're wondering why I'm about to spend a good portion of the OP about audio dramas, you are clearly new to the Doctor Who thread. The Monthly Range Since 1999, Big Finish have released, on a consistent basis, mostly standalone stories featuring the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh (formerly including Eighth) Doctors. Up to 233rd(!) release this month. The Fourth Doctor Adventures Tom Baker gets his own line of releases. Philip Hinchcliffe Presents Back on again! Another Tom Baker line of releases, all based on stories written by former showrunner Philip Hinchcliffe. The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield Sylvester McCoy (and later, David Warner) plays a supporting role to Bernice Summerfield, a companion introduced in the Virgin New Adventures line of books. Novel Adaptations Based on Virgin New Adventures and Virgin Missing Adventures, the book ranges that lasted Doctor Who fans from 1991 to 1997. The Eighth Doctor Adventures / Dark Eyes / Doom Coalition / The Eighth Doctor - The Time War Paul McGann's Doctor also gets his own line. Goons love 'em. The Tenth Doctor Adventures David Tennant reprises his role in mini-seasons every chance he can get, and the results are very RTD-like. In a good way! The Companion Chronicles / The Early Adventures This is important: SOME OF THESE ARE NOT AUDIO DRAMAS. These are "enhanced audiobooks" for the most part, which means that one person does all the parts while another gives narration, but also contains sound effects and music cues. The Companion Chronicles originally were one-handers, but now may contain small casts, which the Early Adventure always have. Spinoffs There are a ton of these, ranging from good (I, Davros) to who gives a poo poo (anything involving a companion from the audio series). THE TOXXUPATION THREAD WITH A VENGEANCE It's on hiatus! Watch in amazement as the forums user currently known as Lick! The! Whisk! puts his writing skills to the test in describing his thoughts on the most recent series. They will be wrong. THE DISCORD I keep forgetting to put this in the OP, so here it is. The future is now! FINALLY, let's take a look at what people thought of Voyage of the Damned, the Christmas special from 10 years ago! Leovinus posted:God. We're only five minutes in and this is already loving awful. JoeSchmoe posted:Jesus christ that was some painful crap. Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Even by the standards of Doctor Who, that was loving awful. Yikes. Oh, and the Doctor will have a vagina soon. 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I don’t know how you do it, Jerusalem. It’s like you can sense when I’m making a new thread.
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Dec 5, 2017 08:13
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"What did you say, my boy? It's all over? That's what you said... but it isn't at all. It's far from being all over...!"
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Edward Mass posted:THE DISCORD This link doesn't work? It opens discord, but then doesn't display anything.
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Dec 5, 2017 10:48
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Poll lacks Nicholas Briggs, therefore it is invalid. 
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http://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2...carey-mulligan/ anyone got a scan of the full print interview? apart from a bit about not brining Sally Sparrow back, there's not much here but apparently Moffat said something silly about not doing a woman Doctor before because of Brexit
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Cerv posted:apart from a bit about not brining Sally Sparrow back, there's not much here but apparently Moffat said something silly about not doing a woman Doctor before because of Brexit Something to the effect of, "I thought about having a female Doctor before we cast Peter, but I decided not to because not everyone who watches the show is as progressive or enlightened as I am," and cited people voting for Brexit as evidence.
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Dec 5, 2017 14:51
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Can someone explain to an American how this matters in any way?
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Out of curiosity, is that Jodie's natural accent? Or is she putting one on like Tennant?
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Dec 5, 2017 15:37
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Gordon Shumway posted:Out of curiosity, is that Jodie's natural accent? Or is she putting one on like Tennant? She's from Yorkshire originally so yeah, guessing it's her natural one.
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Changing threads! And not a moment too soon!
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hanales posted:Can someone explain to an American how this matters in any way? You know how people in countries have different accents depending on where they’re from? It’s about that.
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hanales posted:Can someone explain to an American how this matters in any way? Regional accents everywhere are treated like "lower-class" and people who speak with them are played off as morons or comic relief in media. It's true in America too (the braindead Southerner, the the Irish stereotype Bostonian, the dopey midwesterner, etc.), but because the BBC required that everyone speak with received pronunciation for a long time, it's maybe even worse in the UK. Christopher Eccleston has talked about how it's good when people are allowed to speak with their natural accents. Besides being easier for an actor, it helps to dispel the illusion that RP is "proper" English and other accents are for street peasants or whatever; having every character speak the same leaves the acting, as Eccleston puts it, "milky and anodyne." Lots of planets have a North, so I am glad we will be getting another Doctor with a Northern accent.
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Edward Mass posted:Yikes. Oh, and the Doctor will have a vagina soon. Ahem. The Doctor will be a woman soon. What kit she'll have is, thankfully, beyond the scope of the Doctor Who universe. *Someone mentions looms* I SAID IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE DOCTOR WHO UNIVERSE
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cargohills posted:You know how people in countries have different accents depending on where they’re from? It’s about that. Yes but that's not news. Bicyclops posted:Regional accents everywhere are treated like "lower-class" and people who speak with them are played off as morons or comic relief in media. It's true in America too (the braindead Southerner, the the Irish stereotype Bostonian, the dopey midwesterner, etc.), but because the BBC required that everyone speak with received pronunciation for a long time, it's maybe even worse in the UK. Christopher Eccleston has talked about how it's good when people are allowed to speak with their natural accents. Besides being easier for an actor, it helps to dispel the illusion that RP is "proper" English and other accents are for street peasants or whatever; having every character speak the same leaves the acting, as Eccleston puts it, "milky and anodyne." That's interesting, thank you.
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corn in the bible posted:I'd be happy if I never saw Mark Gattis in anything ever again tbh He's very good at playing slimy and craven characters the audience isn't supposed to like. I don't know if this character in the upcoming episode is like that, but it doesn't seem that way so far
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2house2fly posted:He's very good at playing slimy and craven characters the audience isn't supposed to like. I don't know if this character in the upcoming episode is like that, but it doesn't seem that way so far I'm just sick of him, he's in drat near everything because he's so well-connected
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It'll be sad to see Twelve go, but nothing wrong with a new face It's the writers/showrunner I'm more concerned about and as long as they keep the Doctor in-character, I'll be content Granted, that leaves room for everyone without two hearts to gripe about things, so...double-edged sword, and all that
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Big Finish has you covered for Christmas.
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Rad, her natural accent is adorable
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We're so close to the end of Capaldi  But.... the moment has been prepared for  And we're just as close to the beginning of Whittaker!  Goddamn that is pretty cool 
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Re-watching the Stolen Earth. I am so glad we haven't gotten something so self-serving of a finale since.
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Edward Mass posted:Re-watching the Stolen Earth. I am so glad we haven't gotten something so self-serving of a finale since.  It's not too late!
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Stolen Earth/Journey's End was completely loving barmy and I loved it
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2house2fly posted:Stolen Earth/Journey's End was completely loving barmy and I loved it It really really really should've been the end of RTD's run.
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2house2fly posted:Stolen Earth/Journey's End was completely loving barmy and I loved it Agreed. And I rewatched it in the last week. It is absolutely the best EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE IS AT STAKE story (that I can think of at this exact moment).
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howe_sam posted:It really really really should've been the end of RTD's run. Ehhhh the episodes after had their moments. There was some wretched poo poo as well, but it was all worth it for that scene of Wilfred in the radiation thing, which is my favourite RTD scene and I think a great example of how when he was on he could be great in ways Moffat couldn't even approach. Look at that long speech about kindness in The Doctor Falls that goes on for hundreds of words, and compare it to how much RTD was able to say with "Wilfred, it's my honour".
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CommonShore posted:Agreed. And I rewatched it in the last week. It is absolutely the best EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE IS AT STAKE story (that I can think of at this exact moment). The destruction! Of Reality! ITSELF!
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The_Doctor posted:The destruction! Of Reality! ITSELF! I love so much Davros' understated and slightly surprised,"Why... the Reality Bomb of course..." It's like he understands the Doctor's intelligence but doesn't quite grasp that most people's minds don't travel along the lines of,"How can I make a bomb big enough to wipe out all of reality itself?"
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On one hand, it's too bad they didn't have Terry Molloy back, but on the other, Julian Bleach as Davros was enormously fun. The "It's too late -- I'm regenerating!" cliffhanger and the big "TO! BE! CONTINUED!" were also great (even though the next episode was never going to live up to them, which was a problem common to both RTD and Moffat).
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Davros almost feels weird in the episode because we're somehow invited to take him more seriously than everything else. Like it's this big ol' mess of a reunion with a regeneration fakeout and two Doctors, spinning Daleks, but then there's Davros. That he's a thing of disgust for the Daleks that they can't quite get rid of, his weirdly poignant comment about how the Doctor turns his companions into weapons, and even his megalomaniacal glee about the reality bomb just feel like they're from a more straightforward story. I really love that two-parter on a rewatch, though. It has so many good moments. Julian Bleach is great, Catherine Tate gets a lot of varied material to work with, everyone has some fun lines. "The Osterhagen key? Who came up with that? Well, someone called Osterhagen I suppose, but are you insane?" It's just such a great celebration of the RTD years. Shame about what they do to Donna at the end, but other than that, it's just fun!
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Jerusalem posted:We're so close to the end of Capaldi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tlsd8TuzWY
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 The Fifth Doctor's Sonic and "The Visitation?" I see what you did there, DoctorWhat! You'll get yours... oh yes, you'll get yours!  Thank you, you're the best!
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