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It’s confusing to me. Is it just in name only?
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 08:37 |
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The PRC is an internally inconsistent corrupt authoritarian capitalist nightmare and the Chinese communist party is obsessed with using its own power to protect the business interests of its members, and as a means to pillage rivals or take over or shake down other industry on a whim. Basically nothing matters and everything goes as long as you don't catch the attention of the government. it's not functionally communist lol
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 08:41 |
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Socialism with Chinese characteristics
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 08:42 |
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It's more like full blown libertarianism than anything else.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 08:45 |
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Communists are poor and oppressed? 's lie, comrade. The Party enriches your spirit and your wallet at same time.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 09:07 |
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Communism works! (for the fuckers in charge)
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 09:34 |
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North Korea is better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztcLh-cTJfs
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 09:47 |
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i might defect if the DPRK lets me post about my new life in North Korea on the forums and if the south koreans don't shoot me while crossing the DMZ oh poo poo i could go through china...
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 09:50 |
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Communism is like an onion...
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 11:53 |
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china is communist like the democratic people's republic of korea is democratic OP
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 11:58 |
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China is just what communism in the real world outside of textbooks is. If the US decided to switch to communism we'd eventually be just like them, if not immediately. Communism is just an easier sell to poor people to get them to accept an authoritarian government.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 12:09 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-XcAiswY4
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 12:10 |
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Excuse me but under communism there are no poor people or authorities, as communism is defined as being classless, so those societies mentioned itt do not meet the definition of communism
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 12:24 |
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Former DILF posted:Excuse me but under communism there are no poor people or authorities, as communism is defined as being classless, so those societies mentioned itt do not meet the definition of communism and nobody ever will. Humans do not work that way. It is inevitable that someone will take advantage and seize power.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 12:50 |
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yeah I eat rear end posted:and nobody ever will. Humans do not work that way. It is inevitable that someone will take advantage and seize power. Tell us more about human nature, you sound like you've got it figured out.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 12:51 |
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Grevling posted:Tell us more about human nature, you sound like you've got it figured out. If it was possible, why hasn't it been done yet? Do you think people will just stop wanting to make more money than other people/have political power one day?
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 12:57 |
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people made the same assumptions about heavier than air flight, another feat thought impossible for thousands of years
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 12:58 |
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Former DILF posted:people made the same assumptions about heavier than air flight, another feat thought impossible for thousands of years Technological advances aren't the same as changing human nature, unless they come up with a chip that controls how people think/feel and I don't think even the communist fans want that.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:00 |
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best not try to make anything better then
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:01 |
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yeah I eat rear end posted:and nobody ever will. Humans do not work that way. It is inevitable that someone will take advantage and seize power. and hopefully one day that someone is the proletariat instead of the hollow eyed cunts who endlessly exploit them and their capitalism apologist bootlickers
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:03 |
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Former DILF posted:best not try to make anything better then There are ways to make things better that aren't "scrap everything that has made the USA the country it is today and try a form of government that has never worked (in its pure form) and that we have historically fought to prevent spreading".
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:04 |
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Government transfers of wealth created the USA middle class which receded as soon as the wealth transfers did, you probably don't want to use us as an argument for market evangelism
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:06 |
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Technological advances aren't the same as changing human nature, unless they come up with a chip that controls how people think/feel and I don't think even the communist fans want that.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:08 |
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comedyblissoption posted:humans used to believe in chattel slavery and kings and queens and it was capatalisum that killed that.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:10 |
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Yea the slaves hired the chattel slavery removal company and the market took care of the rest
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:11 |
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bitmap posted:and hopefully one day that someone is the proletariat instead of the hollow eyed cunts who endlessly exploit them and their capitalism apologist bootlickers Isn't it an amazing coincedance that it's always the exploiters and bootlickers that end up in control. It's never "real" communists that are instantly corrupted.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:12 |
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comedyblissoption posted:humans used to believe in chattel slavery and kings and queens Believe it or not but a lot of them still do and would gladly accept the return of that era. Change in nature does happen but it is very slow and at least historically has required fighting and subsequent legislation prohibiting what you want to get rid of to achieve. Trying to tell the community of rich people that their time is over would be a lot harder than beating a bunch of slave owners. Even poor people who don't benefit from capitalism would fight to protect it.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:13 |
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An unjust world isnt worth preserving, even if all we accomplish is the extermination of mankind, its preferable to allowing evil to flourish and overtake earth
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:15 |
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Former DILF posted:An unjust world isnt worth preserving, even if all we accomplish is the extermination of mankind, its preferable to allowing evil to flourish and overtake earth That's just silly. When you start talking about ending the world/purging "evil" if you can't get your way you start sounding awfully close to the "evil" you claim to want to prevent.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:24 |
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i would gladly trade in the ability to google certain things my government doesn't want me to see in exchange for a thriving manufacturing based middle class
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:32 |
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At this point I just want to put the suits and ties up against the wall tbh I don't care if they're communist or capitalist it just so happens they're capitalist where I'm at
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:38 |
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Mnoba posted:i would gladly trade in the ability to google certain things my government doesn't want me to see in exchange for a thriving manufacturing based middle class That sounds great if that is the only thing/right you have to trade in. I think you'd find that it was just the beginning of what you have to give up though.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:39 |
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I'm not sure the dif between a two party system and a one party state is all that big lol
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 13:52 |
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My preferred economic system that has existed for several hundred years perfectly represents our immutable human nature.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 14:09 |
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SplitSoul posted:My preferred economic system that has existed for several hundred years perfectly represents our immutable human nature. I never said it was a perfect system but there's a reason the soviet union collapsed and the US is still standing (even if it's in a bit of a slump lately). People who unironically get on their knees for the stalins/maos of the world are no better than nazis imho.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 14:35 |
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I never said it was a perfect system but there's a reason the soviet union collapsed and the US is still standing (even if it's in a bit of a slump lately). There is a reason, but in all honesty, it probably had nothing really to do with capitalism versus socialism. If it was the "Tsarist Union" instead of the Soviet Union under the same constraints it would have still collapsed. Hell, you could say that Russia regardless of what happened after 1917 was probably completely hosed. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Dec 10, 2017 |
# ? Dec 10, 2017 14:41 |
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in a lot of ways I feel like the PRC is just a continuation of the massive authoritarian bureaucracy that has ruled China for like 1000 years, only now with the trappings of communism instead of an imperial court
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 14:54 |
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yeah I eat rear end posted:If it was possible, why hasn't it been done yet? Do you think people will just stop wanting to make more money than other people/have political power one day? Yeah the way things are now is obviously human nature and inevitable. It's also human nature to wear jeans and listen to Taylor Swift.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 15:08 |
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Grevling posted:Yeah the way things are now is obviously human nature and inevitable. It's also human nature to wear jeans and listen to Taylor Swift. See, this guy gets it.
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# ? Dec 10, 2017 15:20 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:41 |
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I never said it was a perfect system but there's a reason the soviet union collapsed and the US is still standing (even if it's in a bit of a slump lately). Yes the reason it collapsed is those in power realised they could have even more wealth and power under Capitalism than they did on the previous system.
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