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lol suck my dick you fuckman post your bank account then. put your nuts on the table first (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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but yeah how amazing the more exploited someone is the more likely they are to believe that capitalism is hosed why don't you write a dissertation about it
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Dec 12, 2017 21:31
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Working class are interesting because initially they repeat the lines but when you actually talk to them about stuff socialists believe a lot will go "uh yeah no poo poo I think that all the time at work." Consciousness is rising
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Dec 12, 2017 22:16
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facebook jihad posted:Lol how often do you actually talk to working class people about this stuff. Lol A lot Roy Moore is only serving to further piss off people who demand better.
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Dec 12, 2017 22:34
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I think we are losing the point there though. Is this another safe space for bootlickers to whine about the left or are we Nutting up and posting our poo poo? So far it's one conservative bagging groceries what about you other titans of industry? Looking at that 0.00 in your account or what? 
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Dec 12, 2017 22:39
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^^^ I didn't make the thread nor am I the one constantly saying commies are just broke losers I tell you what if you are conservative (I'll check your post history) post your savings account and if you have more than communist me I'll buy you an avatar cert. offer is good for the next 30 minutes or so Limit 5 just in case 
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Dec 12, 2017 22:41
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Did you or am I just in a huff to show off?
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Dec 12, 2017 22:44
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ugh its Troika posted:Turns out being a poorly educated waste of space correlates pretty well with being an internet communist. Who knew? no gonna post anything about yourself though huh don't feel like you can get that free av? pop fly to McGillicutty posted:I'm a Soros Registered Liberal. State employee, vested in 401k. Great pay, great benefits. My CHINESE wife is a doctor. We have a great house, love life, a happy son. I'm happy, in love, well off, nice, and I volunteer for habit for humanity. Suck my dick, gently caress man. Good? Are you a conservative Trump lover though?
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Dec 12, 2017 22:59
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504 posted:Lucky you don't live in a commie poo poo hole where you'd work 12 - 12 and one of your kids is dead from some basic bitch illness. lol even Cuba has a lower infant mortality rate than the USA Well? Not a single conservative trickle down lover is going to post about how successful they are?
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Dec 12, 2017 23:05
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No one huh. If I'm a loser internet commie surely you'd have pretty good odds at a free avatar?
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Dec 12, 2017 23:12
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gobbagool posted:Also, having $10 to change someone’s avatar isn’t exactly evidence of your financial success at least in the US. I mean steinrokkan doesn’t make that in a week, but he lives in the third world so his opinions are laughably irrelevant The deal is post your savings account and if you have more than me you get a free av idk how that could possibly be confusing to anyone.
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Dec 12, 2017 23:19
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Why would you give banking info just blur out the relevant numbers lol
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Dec 12, 2017 23:23
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Just say "Actually Mori I also am broke like most other people in this country and I dunno why I really support the policies that have brought me to this point." just say it everyone knows it's true
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Dec 12, 2017 23:24
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gobbagool posted:It’s not confusing, I just don’t care. If I want an Av I’ll either buy one as $10 represents about 6 minutes of my labor, or ill wade into the fever swamp of D&D and suggest that terrorism is bad or that the US is better at thing than the Soviet Union and someone will gift me one well so I can only assume that when you say "lol commies are just broke losers" you're just being a bootlicker who loves working 40+ hrs a week for a pittance half of which goes to rent
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Dec 12, 2017 23:26
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Frankly every single person I meet making that argument is broke themselves. Here's a hint: it doesn't matter because success in a capitalist system is immaterial to the criticisms being levied against it you stupid shitlords. loving of course the people with the most are usually saying it's awesome and the people with the least usually dislike it. So what? This argument only holds merit if it is somehow BAD or IMMORAL to be a poor person. Which it isn't.
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Pawn 17 posted:Moridin claims to be a commie, but instead of living a communist lifestyle, he instead brags about how rich he has become through capitalism and taunts the poor and working class with his bank account. what is the communist lifestyle? I'm not bragging either I am openly saying it is stupid as poo poo that people working hard all their life make a pittance while some other lazy shithead does nothing whatsoever except moving some paper or digital numbers around and poof he's "earned" more than most people make in a year.
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gobbagool posted:A young person who just learned about communism but lives a comfortable life in their parents house in a nice American suburb and is wicked caremad about it. What a Internet communist is not is someone who lived under an actual communist regime. hah my family lived under an actual communist regime so I prolly know more about it than you do Hell the communists seized my grandma on my mom's sides estates/factories/titles back in the day. Ayn Randi posted:the red scare really broke americas cultural brain lol
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VikingSkull posted:moridin is really mad itt oh come on you could say that about any thread I post in 
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Dec 12, 2017 23:53
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Lurks Morington posted:Read blood lands: hitler and Stalin’s Europe. Or something to that effect. Ask yourself if you’ve ever had to ponder infanticide, the taboos against cannibalism, and the morality of selling your children into sex slavery and then tell me about how great communism is, you loving know nothing idiot a bloo bloo bloo let's trade atrocities back and forth like any modern socialists actually like Stalin beyond memes to make idiots angry 10+ million died in the Bengal famine. Who knows how many died in Indonesia. Who knows how many died during Operation Condor.
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Lurks Morington posted:It’s almost if there’s a difference between communism, socialism, and Stalinism. Wow these motherfucking words might contain loving meaning. Oh wow loving magic. Look at all the motherfuckkng magic that is reading a motherfuckkng book lmao
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gobbagool posted:Rent? No I'm an adult I own a very large house on a huge piece of land with my own 200 yard rifle range. I am able to do this because I'm not a trendy retard who insists on living somewhere dumb like California Lol
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Rutibex posted:so you think that investments and businesses never fail? I can see why you are a communist with that level of economic expertise. Yeah he built Microsoft ALL BY HIMSELF lmao
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Dec 20, 2017 03:32
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new phone who dis posted:Every place I've ever worked would have been an utter disaster if the workers ran it democratically. Lol I love these bc ppl never realize they are arguing against democracy itself. Hey geniuses it doesn't have to be direct democracy the workers can vote for who gets management positions and whatnot like how representative democracies work
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blah blah blah "workers are just dumber!!!" yeah that's what happens when you gut education for decades you loving rubes
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Dec 20, 2017 04:14
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new phone who dis posted:Everybody can't be an intellectual or college educated. That's a myth. You still need millions upon millions of idiots to run society. They aren't some noble, unappreciated group waiting to take the reins and lead us into a brighter future. They're morons who need to be managed. If you want to see the end game of venerating the idiots, take a long look at Pol Pot's Cambodia. k so why should anyone but intellectuals get to vote? why don't we just have a dictatorship then if ordinary people can't be trusted to decide poo poo?
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Dec 20, 2017 04:21
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new phone who dis posted:You want the qualified and trained people making the informed decisions. When those people become corrupt, the answer isn't to turn society over to the unqualified and untrained. The belief in this myth is something internet communists and Trump supporters both have in common. You don't replace the experts with idiots, you expose and remove the corrupt experts and replace them with better ones. who decides who the better experts are though is what im saying
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it's funny how apparently socialists are the authoritarians but then also earnest arguments about how the masses are too stupid to be making decisions
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im not arguing for raw populism at all i even said representative democracy is a thing that exists and i wouldn't want to be in charge either
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Dec 20, 2017 04:35
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what are you even on about right now
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Dec 20, 2017 04:38
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lol capitalism survives not only on the control of property but on the control of the people's ideology
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Dec 20, 2017 04:40
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well i don't disagree
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Dec 20, 2017 04:56
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Think of the small businesses croon the capitalists, as they systematically destroy mom and pop outfits nationwide and entrench themselves into monopolies through rent seeking activity such that everyone who didn't get run out of business is still reliant on them.
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Dec 20, 2017 18:55
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Like gently caress you lol I watched amazon destroy my family's business and 2 other good friends of mine's businesses through straight up anti competitive illegal bullshit. Straight theft of intellectual property. But whatchu gonna do sue Amazon? No firm would even touch that. He tried. All other online retailers sell through Amazon or die. They want to gently caress you one day they can, and will once they find your suppliers, and have done it. Meanwhile I get nasty emails for illegally downloading a movie I already own and that isn't available to stream anywhere fuckin suck my dick
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Dec 20, 2017 18:57
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Know what people are doing now? Retail arbitrage. What's that? They have stats to show them popular items on Amazon and average prices then when those items are cheaper elsewhere they buy and ship directly to fulfilled by Amazon warehouses and resell to people for the profit margin. No real work involved on their end at all, just money tied up in inventory. People complain their thing has Walmart packaging and you get shut down? Pf open a new account. Hahaha what a loving poo poo show.
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Dec 20, 2017 19:01
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I think it will probably look more like Kowloon tbh
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you keep edging around "dictatorships are good" lol
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Dec 20, 2017 19:31
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I mean you're talking about restaurants basically people make stupid decisions sure but there are other contributing factors. are you saying WalMart caused 0 small retail shops to close?
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Dec 20, 2017 19:35
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Here's the thing though - publicly owned companies are already run by shareholder vote. Shareholders vote for board members and vote on board propositions and salaries and all of that. Simplified, the problem is that the majority shareholders tend to be the company owners and not the employees. And there are tons of ESOPs that operate like that in the real world. Publix is an ESOP and everyone on here loves their sandwiches apparently. Mondragon has existed for decades. And if you're an idiot who can't work a register then you might get let go before you are there long enough to qualify for the profit sharing but thems the breaks in capitalism I guess. But the employees still have a stake in the profits and thus care about the quality of their own work and that of their fellow employees. Obviously the kid that just got hired isn't voting on who their direct supervisor is c'mon dude lol. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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new phone who dis posted:Shareholders aren't dependent on their occupation within the company to survive. They can usually be expected to make decisions that might impact the workforce negatively to keep the business running or competitive. Employee groups with a stake in the process like unions are notorious for often negotiating themselves out of jobs or setting up policies that gently caress over the majority of the workforce to benefit a select few. wouldn't someone dependent on the company surviving to keep their job be more inclined to give a poo poo about what they are doing and to vote with the company's best interests in mind? as opposed to say a particular Sears shareholder who systematically stripped the corporation of its assets and sold them off to other corporations he owned and then hosed thousands out of their pensions at Sears? quote:Employee groups with a stake in the process like unions are notorious for often negotiating themselves out of jobs or setting up policies that gently caress over the majority of the workforce to benefit a select few. The thing is you can vote those people out. You can't vote out a majority shareholder who lives in the Bahamas and always votes no on raising wages.
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new phone who dis posted:It's too bad that the system being championed as an alternative in this thread is objectively worse than any form of capitalism currently existing. I guess the one benefit to being purged or starved under a planned economy is getting to tell yourself you're "enlightened" like some sort of Jesus freak. Yeah Mondragon massacres millions every year in order to operate its ghastly wage ratios you're just straight up ignoring that ESOPs exist just fine now
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