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This subforum is home to some of the most obsessive political minds in the country. Our following of events is constant. Since the Escalator, our people have sacrificed their mental stability to exhaustively chronicle the true insanity that is modern American politics. We are in the Library of Congress. We are a known factor to several Beltway journalists. Our potential influence is vast, and untapped. So let's fix that. Let's do something with our encyclopedic knowledge and pure judgement. Let's find a 2020 Dem ticket we can all get behind. "SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!" ok, no. Perhaps the most troubling truth facing the Dem Presidential hopes right now, besides the potential abolishing of elections, is that the three biggest names, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Joe Biden, are all really loving old. Too old, in fact. Which is why I'm taking these and other names out of this thread with a simple rule: 1. Neither the President nor Vice President of your ticket may have been born on or before January 20th, 1951. With this rule, I believe this discussion is one worth actually having. And, because some of you are total jokers, let's add in two other rules. 2. Both people on your ticket must be constitutionally eligible to be President. 3. Both people on your ticket must currently hold or have held public office. As much as I'd love to entertain the possibility of VP Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, I feel that "Best Celebrity VP" is a topic worthy of a different, more casual thread. Now, as for my ticket: There are three (3) currently serving Senators who fit the age requirement and have both 1. Cosponsored Bernie's Medicare For All plan. 2. Voted to keep the government shut down when Schumer caved in after three days. They are: Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, and Kirsten Gillibrand. While all three have very respectable voting records, Gillibrand has been the most consistent in opposing Trump. However, Gillibrand has the issue of her record as a Representative, where she was as "centrist" as they come, having an A rating from the NRA (which was downgraded to an F in 2010.) Her alleged opportunism has been commented on by Trump, who suggested she was willing to perform sexual favors in exchange for donations. Ultimately, as it is in the real world, there is no perfect pure savior to pass every purity test we give them. There are no saints. And that's why this discussion should be had. So we can, like reasonable people, discuss the pros and cons of everyone who passes the litmus tests that actually are valid and realistic, like supporting universal health care, an absolute must for any Dem 2020 candidate. The position of Vice President is mostly ceremonial and unimportant, except when the President dies and then it's extremely important. Keith Ellison is an extremely popular choice around here, but I would note that he seems to have political ambitions that don't involve the President dying, specifically being the Minnesota AG, which would be extremely cool and good. So, with that in mind, I'm interested to know what other House Reps, or hell, Governors, or AGs, or state congresspeople there are that could be the apple of C-SPAMs eye. Let the discussion begin.
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Feb 23, 2018 19:29
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Let's find a 2020 Dem ticket we can all get behind. "SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!" ok, no. quit astroturfing for the dnc op
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Feb 23, 2018 20:05
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id rather have the ancient corpse of bernie sanders in there than any of the shitlibs you settled on op respectable voting records lmao
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Feb 23, 2018 20:19
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bernie sanders and elizabeth warren
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Feb 23, 2018 20:20
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itll be bernie barring some sort of catastrophe, OP
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Feb 23, 2018 20:21
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im goin back in time and making sure jeremy corbyn was born in the us Corbyn/Bernsen 2020
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Feb 23, 2018 22:21
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the bitcoin of weed posted:id rather have the ancient corpse of bernie sanders in there than any of the shitlibs you settled on op
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Feb 23, 2018 22:22
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the bitcoin of weed posted:id rather have the ancient corpse of bernie sanders in there than any of the shitlibs you settled on op
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Feb 23, 2018 22:27
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youre right op kamala harris' history of defending prison labor and cory booker's love of private equity and school privatization dont actually matter because even though they fought hard on those things they technically didnt cast any votes
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Feb 23, 2018 22:28
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:They are: Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, and Kirsten Gillibrand. lol no gas
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Feb 23, 2018 22:29
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:"SANDERS/WARREN 2020!!!"
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Feb 23, 2018 22:30
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if you care about 2020 you're a cop
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Feb 23, 2018 22:30
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gillibrand has been rushing towards the left ever since trump got elected and would make a not terrible (for democrats) choice the vp should be Keith Ellison bernie is running in 2020 and he will win
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Feb 23, 2018 22:30
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GalacticAcid posted:if you care about 2020 you're a cop Im glad the DSA is looking longterm
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Feb 23, 2018 22:30
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imagine making a rule that your candidate cannot be some useless celebrity or old after america elected Useless Celebrity Dotard Donald J Trump as its president
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Feb 23, 2018 22:31
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TheDon01 posted:Im glad the DSA is looking longterm wait nvm good joke
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Feb 23, 2018 22:31
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I'm gonna run for president and win
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Feb 23, 2018 22:32
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https://twitter.com/nickmullen/status/798553102961942528
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Feb 23, 2018 22:32
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dick wolf
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Feb 23, 2018 22:33
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an actual dog posted:I'm gonna run for president and win weve found bernie's account folks
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Feb 23, 2018 22:33
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dick/wolf
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Feb 23, 2018 22:33
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There are no perfect politicians.
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Feb 23, 2018 22:33
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:There are no perfect politicians. wrong, 
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Feb 23, 2018 22:35
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sir, this is a Joe's Crab Shack. if you're looking for a cure to your debilitating case of purestrain liberalism, try a local anarchist bookstore
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Feb 23, 2018 22:35
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beepe boop i choose my candidates based on arbitrary vote percentages from 538, im a modern day Sensible Democrat. gillibrand/booker 2020
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Feb 23, 2018 22:36
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I really don't get the age rule. People age differently, and lots of people go into their 70s and 80s without going full brainworms like mr. trump
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Feb 23, 2018 22:36
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you/me 2020 in the ultimate pandering presidency
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Feb 23, 2018 22:36
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who is "you" you may ask? well it's you. yes, you. congratulations, gender neutral title president
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Feb 23, 2018 22:37
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will i get a tax credit for posting in this thread op
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Feb 23, 2018 22:37
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poz my neg hole
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Feb 23, 2018 22:38
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Feb 23, 2018 22:39
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actually liking a politician, heh. *hehs* Cool cult mentality you got there.
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Feb 23, 2018 22:42
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Nichael posted:lots of people go into their 70s and 80s without going full brainworms like mr. trump 
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Feb 23, 2018 22:44
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:actually liking a politician, heh. *hehs* Cool cult mentality you got there. Yes, liking a singular politician is indeed incredibly stupid.
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Feb 23, 2018 22:45
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alex jones 2020 who will somehow fight the government while being in charge of it
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Feb 23, 2018 22:45
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hillary clinton warped the centrist mind so much that a politician being actually likeable and human in any way is considered dangerous cultism
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Feb 23, 2018 22:46
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for the record i unequivocally support bernie over any of these other libs because he's the only major democrat who actually focuses on the Main Issue and gets Actually Angry about it, which is railing against the "millionaire and billionaires" ie the capitalists for their looting of America and the World. Until another Democrat does this better I'm gonna vote bernie i dont care if he's 120 and spent the last 20 years hosting a celebrity competition reality tv show with Carrot TOp
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Feb 23, 2018 22:50
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:for the record i unequivocally support bernie over any of these other libs because he's the only major democrat who actually focuses on the Main Issue and gets Actually Angry about it, which is railing against the "millionaire and billionaires" ie the capitalists for their looting of America and the World. Until another Democrat does this better I'm gonna vote bernie i dont care if he's 120 and spent the last 20 years hosting a celebrity competition reality tv show with Carrot TOp You realize that "Yells the best about the thing I hate the most" is literally the reason Donald Trump won the Republican primary, right? You are cognitively aware of that similarity in your candidate selection process for President of the United States.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:You realize that "Yells the best about the thing I hate the most" is literally the reason Donald Trump won the Republican primary, right? You are cognitively aware of that similarity in your candidate selection process for President of the United States. yeah and he won the presidency unlike the Good Policy Reasonable Candidate With the Right Votes and Experience
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