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Blanketspace posted:Seems like the anime is more concerned with hereditary dictatorships (monarchies) than dictatorships in general. Sidenote: "Anime Said It Best" has strong username potential In the context of the show it's talking about (what else) an Empire, but the character is reflecting on the nature of autocracy and democracy in general. Dictatorships don't have to be hereditary but they are very much autocratic, and still rely on the issue of whether the successor will be as able as the predecessor.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 03:37 |
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im very glad that anime is now exploring the bleeding edge of 15th century political philosophy such as "what if you dont have a good king?"
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:02 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:China wasn't a democracy. They've been a de-facto dictatorship since they were a monarchy. Nothing is rising here, it would be like if Putin declared himself dictator. Nothing changes. Putin had the decency to put a stooge in place for a few years to technically not break the law.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:12 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Putin had the decency to put a stooge in place for a few years to technically not break the law. co-president and life-partner Medvedev resents being branded a "stooge"
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:14 |
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Blanketspace posted:Seems like the anime is more concerned with hereditary dictatorships (monarchies) than dictatorships in general. Sidenote: "Anime Said It Best" has strong username potential I read some interesting articles that think that hereditary corporate leadership as seen in Asia might actually be better than standard corporate governance because the whole identity and self-worth of the executives and their family is tied up with the continued success of the company, so they tend to be less corrupt and to prioritize long-term outcomes more instead of trying to gently caress the company over for maximum personal benefit before bailing out on their golden parachute like most American CEOs do.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:15 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I read some interesting articles that think that hereditary corporate leadership as seen in Asia might actually be better than standard corporate governance because the whole identity and self-worth of the executives and their family is tied up with the continued success of the company, so they tend to be less corrupt and to prioritize long-term outcomes more instead of trying to gently caress the company over for maximum personal benefit before bailing out on their golden parachute like most American CEOs do. i thought most of the japanese conglomerates are run by wings of the yakuza
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:18 |
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The silver lining is the satisfaction I feel as a layman for noticing that the 20th Century and its World Wars created an abnormal paradigm that our stupid, arrogant asses thought was sustainable. Now the world is stratifying back to the socio-economic disparity that's been present since the dawn of civilization and there's nothing we can do about it.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:24 |
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Caganer posted:i thought most of the japanese conglomerates are run by wings of the yakuza again, less corrupt.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:25 |
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Caganer posted:i thought most of the japanese conglomerates are run by wings of the yakuza I think it's more that they usually have a long-running historical relationship with one of the yakuza orgs that they use for things like doing land deals, etc. This was helped by the fact that the CIA and other similar orgs backed the yakuza as part of their efforts to keep Japan under control and to guard against "commies" And there is a lot of illegality in part to get around things like inheritance laws to make sure that corporate leadership stays hereditary. But overall there is thought to be less corruption on the part of top level executives specifically acting against the interests of the company for personal gain.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:29 |
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Lotta authoritarian bootlickers ITT. Shameful.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:48 |
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i don’t respect no authority *green day*
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:54 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:China wasn't a democracy. They've been a de-facto dictatorship since they were a monarchy. Nothing is rising here, it would be like if Putin declared himself dictator. Nothing changes. China was authoritarian yeah, but it had more checks and balances and revolving leadership going on. So it was a healthier system than what they're heading into now.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:58 |
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I hope Jinping fully entrenches himself, wipes out all opposition, and then dies, leaving the entire government in chaos causing the already shaky Chinese bankgin system to collapse, ultimately causing China to lose its grip on formerly independent states like Tibet.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 04:58 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I hope Jinping fully entrenches himself, wipes out all opposition, and then dies, leaving the entire government in chaos causing the already shaky Chinese bankgin system to collapse, ultimately causing China to lose its grip on formerly independent states like Tibet. China has always owned Tibet Anyways: my money's on he picks and grooms a successor who succeeds w/o (much) incident, but then THAT guy fucks up the succession and the whole system comes crashing down.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:08 |
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authoritarianism is the new punk
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:09 |
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Harald posted:authoritarianism is the new punk Tiny brain: bow to authority Regular brain: question authority Big brain: rebel against authority Galactic brain: force others to do what I want, which is rebel against authority
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:11 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I read some interesting articles that think that hereditary corporate leadership as seen in Asia might actually be better than standard corporate governance because the whole identity and self-worth of the executives and their family is tied up with the continued success of the company, so they tend to be less corrupt and to prioritize long-term outcomes more instead of trying to gently caress the company over for maximum personal benefit before bailing out on their golden parachute like most American CEOs do.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:11 |
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The only surprising thing is it took 20 years after Deng's death for China to get a dictator.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:11 |
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Harald posted:yeah I read Vice Magazine too I'm talking actual books not that white supremacist rag
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:12 |
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They are a dictatorship of the people and Jinping is a person so
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:17 |
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If you're saying capitalism is poison, well heck I'm not gonna disagree
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:18 |
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Harald posted:yeah I read Vice Magazine too Vice never once heard of the waltons or bought a tank of gas
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:28 |
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china has always tolerated if not loved their god emperors, this is nothing new
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:57 |
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Away all Goats posted:china has always tolerated if not loved their god emperors, this is nothing new In the end, like many Chinese emperors, he dies of poison. Only this time, it's heavy metal poisoning from industrial pollution
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 05:58 |
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mind the walrus posted:The silver lining is the satisfaction I feel as a layman for noticing that the 20th Century and its World Wars created an abnormal paradigm that our stupid, arrogant asses thought was sustainable. Now the world is stratifying back to the socio-economic disparity that's been present since the dawn of civilization and there's nothing we can do about it. WELCOME TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY (no, actually welcome to nite crew)
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 06:09 |
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I wonder what would happen if Trump really pushed for abolishing the 22nd amendment
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 06:23 |
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Whole lotta fresh dictatorships in the past 24 months. Who's next?
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 06:24 |
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:what country even has a million officials, disciplined for corruption or otherwise
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 06:50 |
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Rime posted:Whole lotta fresh dictatorships in the past 24 months. Who's next? can i get some examples?
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 06:52 |
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Im Ready for DEATH posted:You know, someone pointed out to me the other day that Trump shouldn't be looking to spend so much money when the economy is growing. That kind of spending should be saved for recessions. But Republicans are under pressure to perform well so that they get reelected. So the parties do things in the short term that is beneficial for them, but bad for the country (and world) in the long run. When you have steady leadership like the Chinese you can think long-term because there is no competition from another party. It's true the Communist party can do some shady things but ultimately they have to keep the "murder you in the middle of the night because you talked some poo poo" low key. They can't get too wild. What I'm saying is, maybe this isn't so bad? IDK In China, you can change policies but you can't change parties!
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 06:53 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I think it's more that they usually have a long-running historical relationship with one of the yakuza orgs that they use for things like doing land deals, etc. This was helped by the fact that the CIA and other similar orgs backed the yakuza as part of their efforts to keep Japan under control and to guard against "commies"
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 06:54 |
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China's debt to GDP is getting crazy (albeit their private debt might be crowded out by the large government relative to other major economies) high at around 3x the level of welfare states, estimates of economic growth put it at 1.2 percent for 2017 and 1.4 for 2016, debt is growing at around 21 percent, they've put on a bunch of controls to stop dealings in some assets where a fall in prices would otherwise be evident and a huge percentage of their wealthiest plan to emigrate within a decade. Many reasons to anticipate a drastic economic adjustment and as a resident of a country which exports huge quantities of resources to China I am concerned edit: the gdp estimates are kinda screwy and based on dubious metrics, it might be higher but i'm distrustful of the 6.9% official figure Neurosis fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:In America, you can charge parties but you can't change policies. And in Russia, the party policies change you! What a country
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 06:54 |
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My warmest regards to my Xi Dada, president-for-life of China. Let the world move toward your heavenly embrace!
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 06:59 |
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I realized I used to know a chick in china whose english name was "winnie" and I hope she didnt get sent to a gulag when that winnie the pooh stuff hurt chairman Xi's feelings.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 08:19 |
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Re: Yakuza No they don’t run anything as large as a conglomerate. As far as gangs are concerned, the yakuza are probably the most innocuous in the world. They’re basically just a federation of landlords that you need to meet with before you rent an office space in a building they own. I live 20 seconds from one of their meeting buildings and I’ve even chatted with them (it’s a boutique in the middle of nowhere that is only open on Saturday and a ton of Ferrari and Lambos suddenly meet in front, along with a ton of black tinted vans) and they’re super nice and speak great English.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 09:31 |
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If you're trying to bait weeaboos the anime forum is thataway
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 09:39 |
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That face when you've just discovered the jade seal and realise you have the mandate of heaven
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 11:09 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I read some interesting articles that think that hereditary corporate leadership as seen in Asia might actually be better than standard corporate governance because the whole identity and self-worth of the executives and their family is tied up with the continued success of the company, so they tend to be less corrupt and to prioritize long-term outcomes more instead of trying to gently caress the company over for maximum personal benefit before bailing out on their golden parachute like most American CEOs do. But on the flip side, these sorts of companies can also be very closed to any kind of innovation that would disrupt their existing business model, to the point where they can put a stranglehold on new ideas and technologies. From a social perspective they also tend to be very heirarchical and loyalty/longevity-focused (rather than competence-focused), with very few options for exceptional employees to distinguish themselves and move past their peers to the top, resulting in something of a lackadasical overall attitude towards advancement. If you're only ever get to be promoted after X years of experience anyways, why attempt to distinguish yourself?
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I'm gunna hire Lu Bu
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