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This whole time I'm imagining the Harley had half a truck battery or something, but they're both just ytx12s or something like that aren't they?
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I'm no battery-ologist but I think the starter will just draw the current that it needs to operate, as limited by the batteries ability to discharge. edit: so yeah, that's awesome.
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Jun 13, 2018 16:04
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Yeah, current draw is defined by the device doing the drawing, up to the current limit of the battery. Voltage is defined by the cell config of the battery. Spinning faster is a function of voltage, and Harleys are plain old 12v systems, so they wont act any differently. "Bigger" batteries for automotive applications tend just to be more cells paralleled up for more current, which is again defined by the device doing the current draw.
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Jun 13, 2018 16:48
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When someone has just passed their (UK) test. "I'm going to ride sensibly." "I'll ride much more safely than everyone else." "I'll never speed."
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Jun 13, 2018 17:05
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"Your headlight is out"
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Jun 13, 2018 22:20
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Elviscat posted:"Your headlight is out" As someone with an MT-10 and who rides onto military bases every day, I get this constantly. I just tell them that the bike is winking at them because they're doing such a good job checking IDs. Favorite one recently: "This is my first Harley, but I rode dirtbikes before! I know how to ride twisties!" >> Goes 15km/h around a very gentle 2 lane wide curve.
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Edit: it sounded stupid after I read it
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Jun 26, 2018 03:19
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"My brother's ex-roommate's cousin died riding a motorcycle, I hope your family is prepared for you to die riding that murder cycle."
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Jun 27, 2018 09:54
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lol yeah the first time i posted a picture of my motorcycle on facebook the first comment was my uncle saying "i hope you are an organ donor" thanks, uncle thuncle
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Jun 27, 2018 20:36
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Skreemer posted:"My brother's ex-roommate's cousin died riding a motorcycle, I hope your family is prepared for you to die riding that murder cycle." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Bmcdvfans
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Jun 28, 2018 00:26
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"You can't take it on the highway because the engine sounds like it's gonna fly apart!"
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Jul 10, 2018 18:33
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It fell over for no reason. Of course I was (not speeding, looking where I was going) and when it got bad I did not (lock up the front brake, lock up the rear brake, lock up both brakes.) There's no such thing as counter steering, it's a complete myth, just grab the bars and force the bike in the direction you want to go. If you think you're going to wreck, simply jump clear, you won't get hurt. Harley Davidson builds the largest and most powerful engines ever made to be put in a motorcycle. Wearing a motorcycle helmet will snap your neck the instant you get into a crash no matter what speed you are going. Slide Hammer posted:"You can't take it on the highway because the engine sounds like it's gonna fly apart!" A 500cc motor and under can only do about 60MPH and has no right to be on the highway.
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Jul 10, 2018 20:24
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Skreemer posted:Harley Davidson builds the largest and most powerful engines ever made to be put in a motorcycle. it's interesting how this one co-exists with "those jap crap crotch rockets are TOO FAST"
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Jul 10, 2018 22:02
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Skreemer posted:There's no such thing as counter steering, it's a complete myth, just grab the bars and force the bike in the direction you want to go. This is so much easier to explain to a complete motorcycle newbie, than the untrained-but-has-been-lucky rider who still thinks "I lean to turn" and won't listen to anybody. Or even try it just to see if it works.
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Jul 11, 2018 01:37
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I was privy to an argument about countersteering once where it became apparent after a while that the guy who didn't believe countersteering works was actually pushing down on the bars instead of forwards. Like, as if you could somehow muscle the bike onto its side by pushing down on one grip and pulling up on the other. Now that I've seen it once for real, I'm convinced that there are lots more people out there with that same severe misunderstanding of the dynamics involved -- "I am pushing, I am, nothing's happening!!"
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Jul 11, 2018 04:14
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the kid i knew who went from a rebel 250 to an r6 after like 300 miles ended up selling it. now he wants an indian scout, he was explaining to me that cruisers require different braking techniques, "like mostly rear brake" because of their low center of gravity
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Jul 11, 2018 06:24
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you definitely won't go from one fun, running bike to a giant poo poo pile of broken garbage and backlog of projects that you're too depressed to work on most of the time. also "just needs a top end"
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Razzled posted:the kid i knew who went from a rebel 250 to an r6 after like 300 miles ended up selling it. now he wants an indian scout, he was explaining to me that cruisers require different braking techniques, "like mostly rear brake" because of their low center of gravity This exact thing was taught to me by an MSF instructor.
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Razzled posted:the kid i knew who went from a rebel 250 to an r6 after like 300 miles ended up selling it. now he wants an indian scout, he was explaining to me that cruisers require different braking techniques, "like mostly rear brake" because of their low center of gravity Just do the world and the kid a service and kill him now.
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I have absolutely no idea what people even mean when they say countersteering isint a thing, you can even do it with a pedal bike. It's how I learned to ride on my 250. Anyways I got a ton of poo poo from a big huge old harley man i used to work with for having a ninja 250 and riding it on the highway to work. Pretty sure his 950lbs heritage softtail deluxe wasnt much quicker. I could do about 110 mph without issue.
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Yerok posted:you definitely won't go from one fun, running bike to a giant poo poo pile of broken garbage and backlog of projects that you're too depressed to work on most of the time. Just needs a battery and a carb cleaning
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Jul 12, 2018 23:47
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I don't have the title but I can write you a bill of sale, should be fine
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has vermont registration which is good forever and no problem
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Jul 15, 2018 02:15
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Sagebrush posted:I was privy to an argument about countersteering once where it became apparent after a while that the guy who didn't believe countersteering works was actually pushing down on the bars instead of forwards. Like, as if you could somehow muscle the bike onto its side by pushing down on one grip and pulling up on the other. Now that I've seen it once for real, I'm convinced that there are lots more people out there with that same severe misunderstanding of the dynamics involved -- "I am pushing, I am, nothing's happening!!" This is how i turn. It works perfectly fine. I have never met anyone confused about how to turn a motorcycle in person. It's so wildly uncomplicated im convinced it occurs only in stories by internet pedants
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Jul 17, 2018 07:20
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ADINSX posted:I don't have the title but I can write you a bill of sale, should be fine You can just file for lost title, even though it was never in your name.
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puppet pal mitch posted:This is how i turn. It works perfectly fine. I have never met anyone confused about how to turn a motorcycle in person. It's so wildly uncomplicated im convinced it occurs only in stories by internet pedants I feel like explaining how motorcycles turn is one of those things that only makes sense to someone if they have experience turning motorcycles. Otherwise it just sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
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Jul 18, 2018 01:35
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Why the gently caress do motorcycle riders want to discuss it so much? It's as pedantic as arguing over how you chew and equally as loving stupid.
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Jul 18, 2018 04:41
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Since you can "push in the direction that you want to go," you can also pull in the direction that you don't want to go to achieve the same effect. And then, when you combine them, you get a REALLY fast turn-in.
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puppet pal mitch posted:This is how i turn. It works perfectly fine. I have never met anyone confused about how to turn a motorcycle in person. It's so wildly uncomplicated im convinced it occurs only in stories by internet pedants Like, you're pushing down on the bar towards the ground, as if you hung a brick off the grip with a rope? If that's how you're turning, try real countersteering and be amazed
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Sagebrush posted:Like, you're pushing down on the bar towards the ground, as if you hung a brick off the grip with a rope? He's not, he just thinks he is. That's what every countersteering argument breaks down into, a bunch of people shouting about what they THINK they're doing, only a few of whom are actually correct. You're probably the most knowledgeable person about physics on here, you know there's not really much room for variation in the mechanics of turning in a two-wheeled vehicle with the traditional fork-and-steerer-tube design. Keith Code's (?) no-lean bike pretty effectively illustrates that lean alone doesn't factor into actual turning that much, so it's mostly countersteering, which only happens in one way. e:grammar HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jul 18, 2018 |
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Yes, I mean, I'm not going to go into a full on  about the dynamics but you're correct that there is objectively only one sort of torque on the steering axis that can initiate a countersteer. Now, I can imagine that what's happening is the guy's handlebar geometry is partially converting his downward pressure into a forwards torque, causing the bike to steer, making it seem like his technique works (which it does, inefficiently). Or I guess he thinks he's pushing downwards but is unaware of what his own body is doing? But I can't understand how anyone would do that and not notice what was actually happening to the bars. Do people actually pay that little attention to their own/their vehicle's behavior?obviously yes
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Slide Hammer posted:Since you can "push in the direction that you want to go," you can also pull in the direction that you don't want to go to achieve the same effect. Also useful when you're stiffening up and need to shake at least some part of your body out, or when you're doing the whole nonchalant-rider-elbow-on-the-tank-chin-on-your-hand gag
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Sagebrush posted:Do people actually pay that little attention to their own/their vehicle's behavior?
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For content, one of my favorite moto lies: I'm gonna put a turbo on it.
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Sagebrush posted:Do people actually pay that little attention to their own/their vehicle's behavior? Considering almost every single person today drives a car that is a modern engineering marvel and probably 80% of them think their vehicle will careen uncontrollably off the road taking any corner at more than 30mph.... Yes. Yes they pay that little attention.
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:For content, one of my favorite moto lies: I have only ever seen one aftermarket turbocharged streetbike out in the wild. It was an oil-cooled GSXR-1000 drag bike that the owner had swapped the factory swingarm back onto in order to go on a ride with some friends of mine and I because his other bikes were down for the count at the time. I have never seen a more awe-inspiring, yet completely terrifying unstreetable monster of a bike on the street. It made zero power down low. I was on a GSXR-600 at the time, which also made no power down low and I could leave him in the dust from a standing start (because he also didnt have the two step rev-limiter and other boost building things turned on on the street), but once the revs climbed and his turbo spooled, he would blow by me like I was in reverse in every single gear. He ran with the boost turned down on the street and it was still completely bananas at pretty much all times. Turbo bikes on the street just dont make a ton of sense and so no one does it except a few weirdos, is what I'm saying.
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:Yes, but I can't really blame anyone for that. Most of us started riding bicycles, thereby countersteering, long before we had a concept of what it is. I tried motorcycle countersteering on a bicycle once... I fell over really fast. (As in, onto the ground.) You have to be going pretty fast for it to become countersteering, and then, the tires are so skinny, that you just fall into max lean near-instantly.
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Slide Hammer posted:I tried motorcycle countersteering on a bicycle once... I fell over really fast. (As in, onto the ground.) You have to be going pretty fast for it to become countersteering, and then, the tires are so skinny, that you just fall into max lean near-instantly. Hah, i ride bmx on the side and have been backporting some of my moto learnings to the pedal bike. countersteering is POWERFUL on a 20". I think it has to do with center of grav, ratio of bike to rider weight, something. But yeah if you start doing the moto countersteer on a bicycle, you get some terrifyingly sharp turns.
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Sagebrush posted:Yes, I mean, I'm not going to go into a full on Honestly I never thought about it hard until reading this thread but I probably would have said I push "down". On reflection the way my body geometry changes as I lean in the opposite direction and the height of my bars it's definitely "forward".
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To myself: "man, it sure is hot, riding with the visor up for a few minutes would sure be awesome!" *gets eyeballs sandblasted and slams visor shut again* Five minutes later: "golly, it's a scorcher today it..."
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