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Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Jackie D posted:

The crowd being dead as poo poo really kills it for me

Like I think Nakamura-Hardy was actually pretty good for what it was, but it might as well have been in an empty arena

Tough part is with all the audio fuckery and manipulation it's hard to tell when they actually were or it was manufactured

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MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug
didn't watch summer slam but listened to it in the background while having a migraine and getting bombarded with drunk texts from a coworker




sounds like i got off easy

pressedbunny
May 31, 2007

To A Brand New Galaxy
... Seriously and sincerely, I genuinely was not aware that "how would Vince McMahon react to having to burn everything, and wouldn't it be fun to be a fly on that wall" was some sort of outlandish idea. Terrible things happening to awful people, ruining their awful plans, is the bread and butter of basically every comedy show I grew up with; I rather assumed everybody and anybody would be familiar with the idea. Sorry for my apparently incorrect assumption and/or poor phrasing, evidently I did not convey my meaning accurately. (ed: and I'll take that on board for the future.)(ed2: sorry, anxious compulsion to always put things right. Sorry again. Will stop.)

pressedbunny fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Aug 20, 2018

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Fresh Like Zafo posted:

Roman winning means Brock is getting a rematch.

Finn, Owens, and Goldberg are still waiting for theirs

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

pressedbunny posted:

... Seriously and sincerely, I genuinely was not aware that "how would Vince McMahon react to having to burn everything, and wouldn't it be fun to be a fly on that wall" was some sort of outlandish idea. Terrible things happening to awful people, ruining their awful plans, is the bread and butter of basically every comedy show I grew up with; I rather assumed everybody and anybody would be familiar with the idea.

Dude, unless you wanna become the Roman Reigns Child Porn Guy, just stop talking and let it die. Don't respond to this post. Just stop.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

My thoughts are that the r were some good matches, some graceful matches, I'm glad the coronation finally happened and it happened in the worst way possible to make Roman look weak af

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

pressedbunny posted:

... Seriously and sincerely, I genuinely was not aware that "how would Vince McMahon react to having to burn everything, and wouldn't it be fun to be a fly on that wall" was some sort of outlandish idea. Terrible things happening to awful people, ruining their awful plans, is the bread and butter of basically every comedy show I grew up with; I rather assumed everybody and anybody would be familiar with the idea. Sorry for my apparently incorrect assumption and/or poor phrasing, evidently I did not convey my meaning accurately. (ed: and I'll take that on board for the future.)

Just keep digging eventually you'll get out

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

I hope that this leads to more universal title matches on ppv now that Reigns has taken the belt off of Brock...but I'm hoping that Reigns isn't the champion or challenger in these future title matches.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Mechafunkzilla posted:

bad matches, awful finishes,

The only bad matches I saw where the real squashes, which sure, shouldn't have been there, but honestly I will take a bad squash over a bad match that goes on for a while and plenty of PPVs have had those.

Finishes, it varies. Seth v ZIggler ended well, Miz/Bryan had a solid end, while Joe/Styles was a gently caress finish it was really well done from an emotional/story standpoint, as I said the crowd basically saved Charlotte's win. A little screwy but it's not the transparent "Why would you even DO this" booking of say, last year's Mania. I understood the booking in most cases.

quote:

zero stakes or investment in storylines

Here's where I really have to disagree because I think there were some cool story beats. The Bludgeon Brothers finally being pushed to the point where they have to use the drat things, Lynch going off on Charlotte, Miz/Bryan was very old school in its theatrics, and Joe/Styles also had a very classic "heel makes it personal" angle which led to the finish.

Heck, even the main event had something- Lesnar losing because he spent so much time trying to neutralize Strowman was actually a clever bit. It makes sense that after winning so decisively so often he finally takes his eye off the ball and that's what does him in.

FullMetalJackoff
Feb 15, 2004

Waluigi want his fucking Amiibo

VJeff posted:

Dude, unless you wanna become the Roman Reigns Child Porn Guy, just stop talking and let it die. Don't respond to this post. Just stop.

Quick BIG DAVE, say something stupid!

Shoenin
May 29, 2013

Everynight I wake up Screaming.
(and beating the dragon)

Namtab posted:

My thoughts are that the r were some good matches, some graceful matches, I'm glad the coronation finally happened and it happened in the worst way possible to make Roman look weak af


Even weaker and lamer than I thought possible.
I never even thought of this way, and yet here we are.


I applaud WWE in their complete and horrid ineptidude to do most things sensibly.






At least the squashes were good.

DeepDickPizza
Oct 11, 2012

THREE TIME! THREE TIME!
IC was good. AJ/Joe was good. Miz/Bryan was good. Demon squash was good. The crowd cheering Becky's heel turn was good. There's definitely been worse shows, even if the main event shenanigans were an all-time lovely thing.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Maxwell Lord posted:

Okay I obviously don't know what makes good wrestling or something since I overall liked that but thought it was too long

Am I just being generous because Brock finally lost? I don't get it

As has been the case, the quality for the average roster match isn't necessarily bad

The issue is, and always has been, their inability to stick the landing and stop themselves from loving up the ending

This PPV had a lot of matches that were fine (at worst) until the last minute or two, which tend to be the most memorable part

The most memorable part of the whole show is of course usually the ending of the last match, which here was....that. The best-case takeaway you have leaving a PPV shouldn't be just "well, at least now I get to see a belt defended more often than once or twice a quarter-year and the champ show up more often than 6 times total"

GrimGypsy
Mar 27, 2007

it's better to have an absentee champion than roman, who is not good despite the weird "the fans hate him for SOME reason but he's actually real good guys!" thing that's become popular lately. If there was a top 100 active wrestlers list he'd be lucky to crack the bottom 5.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Ok I'm big enough to admit it: SummerSlam sucked.

Shoenin
May 29, 2013

Everynight I wake up Screaming.
(and beating the dragon)
yeah IC was good too.
New day/Bludgeon was good until stupid DQ finish.


AJ/Joe was also good and the DQ made sense but uhh, yeah: Dont bring your toddlers into storylines. To quote Vinny Verhei "they dont get it.". I just was not cool with that. If it was just his wife sure it wouldve been awesome. But uhh the kid being there made it pretty uncomfortable.

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



I thought it was really funny that Heyman emphasized "defending" eight times as if that was particularly impressive for a guy who was champion for 500 consecutive days

Heyman rules but lol

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

The best part of the Braun troll is how hilariously shortsighted it is.

It worked tonight but it’s just gonna piss a lot of people off even more.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

sportsgenius86 posted:

The best part of the Braun troll is how hilariously shortsighted it is.

It worked tonight but it’s just gonna piss a lot of people off even more.

is RAW in the same place tomorrow? and were packages of both summerslam and RAW tickets sold?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Raskolnikov38 posted:

is RAW in the same place tomorrow? and were packages of both summerslam and RAW tickets sold?

Yup.

Dylan McKay
Oct 20, 2011

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation. I refuse to see Black Panther because they didn't ask the Black Ranger to be in it.

GrimGypsy posted:

it's better to have an absentee champion than roman, who is not good despite the weird "the fans hate him for SOME reason but he's actually real good guys!" thing that's become popular lately. If there was a top 100 active wrestlers list he'd be lucky to crack the bottom 5.

Seriously Roman is poo poo in the ring and bad on the mic. At least with Cena there was an argument to be made.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


GrimGypsy posted:

it's better to have an absentee champion than roman, who is not good despite the weird "the fans hate him for SOME reason but he's actually real good guys!" thing that's become popular lately. If there was a top 100 active wrestlers list he'd be lucky to crack the bottom 5.

I recall his matches with Styles and his match with Bryan being pretty good. Obv not saying that's anywhere near entirely on him, but if he's against a good opponent it's absolutely better than "champ no-shows for months and the entire supporting cast just shrugs and has matches without acknowledging it"

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Shoenin posted:

Even weaker and lamer than I thought possible.
I never even thought of this way, and yet here we are.


I applaud WWE in their complete and horrid ineptidude to do most things sensibly.






At least the squashes were good.

4 years 4 years 4 years 4 years.

I want to emphasise that they've wanted to crown Roman for about 4 years and tonight they did it in the lamest way possible

beergod
Nov 1, 2004
NOBODY WANTS TO SEE PICTURES OF YOUR UGLY FUCKING KIDS YOU DIPSHIT
What is the best golden era summerslam

I very much need a palette cleanser friend

Shoenin
May 29, 2013

Everynight I wake up Screaming.
(and beating the dragon)
Like I said, even weaker and lamer than I thought possible.

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


Chris James 2 posted:

I recall his matches with Styles and his match with Bryan being pretty good. Obv not saying that's anywhere near entirely on him, but if he's against a good opponent it's absolutely better than "champ no-shows for months and the entire supporting cast just shrugs and has matches without acknowledging it"

On the other hand his matches with Joe and I don't remember who else were loving lame, seemingly deliberately

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

beergod posted:

What is the best golden era summerslam

I very much need a palette cleanser friend

94 had a pretty fun (but a bit long) Owen Bret cage match but it also had Undertaker vs Underfaker.

Summerslam 98 and '02 are both pretty solid, I'd say they're #2 and #3 respectively. Maybe the best one of all time is '92 just for the atmosphere of it being overseas and that insane IC match, but I may be biased and it's probably been outclassed since.

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


beergod posted:

What is the best golden era summerslam

I very much need a palette cleanser friend

1997 is maybe the best Summerslam they ever did, start to finish. Climactic moment of the Hart Foundation Against America angle, Bret/Taker’s really good, Owen/Austin is great until, well, y’know, Pillman/Goldust is painful to watch because of Pillman’s ankle but otherwise is all right, and the opener is motherfucking Mankind and Hunter in a steel cage. All the Foundation matches have good stips attached to add a little extra heat, the show builds to a boil over the three hours, and the end of the main had everyone intrigued on where on earth they were going to go (the answer: to the first Hell In a Cell and the Montreal Screwjob).

Edit: also the hype vid they have at the front of the show is easily top five show promos they’ve ever done; elucidates the shades of character of the guys involved in their top match (of which there are actually some), sets the tone for the show and where the company is at that moment as they turn towards Attitude, and for whatever reason it’s really, really well-written for what it is. IF LIFE WERE FAIR...

The Cameo fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Aug 20, 2018

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.
On the one hand teasing the cash in was a lovely bait and switch but on the other hand it was clever to try and trick the Brooklyn crowd into thinking there might still be a cash in as the show went off the air to keep them from being totally mutinous during Roman's celebration. So if that's what it takes to get them to just put the drat belt on him so we can all move on with our lives then great! So be it imo.

Also I really liked how there were three squash matches. I want more major PPVs with multiple squash matches.

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


I don’t know if it was to keep them from being mutinous, I think it was just to keep them from leaving

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

beergod posted:

What is the best golden era summerslam

I very much need a palette cleanser friend

2002

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

what if someone found the thousands of GB of cartoon porn samoa joe has. Then Good Old JR Showed It to vince to prove that some people like that sort of thing and they began to hire cartoon wrestlers. i'll hang up and listen

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Cavauro posted:

what if someone found the thousands of GB of cartoon porn samoa joe has. Then Good Old JR Showed It to vince to prove that some people like that sort of thing and they began to hire cartoon wrestlers. i'll hang up and listen

Camp WWE would be a much weirder show, I'll tell you that.

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




beergod posted:

What is the best golden era summerslam

I very much need a palette cleanser friend

I'd say 2002 was the best Summerslam.

Golashes
Aug 8, 2006

team starslay3r!!!!!!

pressedbunny posted:

... Seriously and sincerely, I genuinely was not aware that "how would Vince McMahon react to having to burn everything, and wouldn't it be fun to be a fly on that wall" was some sort of outlandish idea. Terrible things happening to awful people, ruining their awful plans, is the bread and butter of basically every comedy show I grew up with; I rather assumed everybody and anybody would be familiar with the idea. Sorry for my apparently incorrect assumption and/or poor phrasing, evidently I did not convey my meaning accurately. (ed: and I'll take that on board for the future.)(ed2: sorry, anxious compulsion to always put things right. Sorry again. Will stop.)

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP

Cavauro posted:

what if someone found the thousands of GB of cartoon porn samoa joe has. Then Good Old JR Showed It to vince to prove that some people like that sort of thing and they began to hire cartoon wrestlers. i'll hang up and listen

I really shouldn't read posts like this at work. I'm choking from stifling my laughter.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
Was a good PPV. But I skipped over 5 matches, the promos, and entrances and watched it all in 3 hours.

How the hell does every match on the preshow end in a rollup? Why do they put so many matches on the show and have so many squashes?

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

beergod posted:

What is the best golden era summerslam

I very much need a palette cleanser friend

Watch Summerslam 2001 because 15 year-old CarlCX was there and you can pretend WCW still exists for a minute.

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



Samoa Joe loving rules though and I hope they give him a run with the title. He comes across as a mean, tough dude at all times and the crowd buys into it

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LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Did Brock's run eclipse Punk's? Because I remain convinced that's why he was signed to an extension after Wrestlemania and I want to see if I'm right.

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