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Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!
It's also funny to see when the dev team started to make money. There's some of your typical spotty VN translation in the earlier writing, then gets exceptionally localized later on. Same with the art. I did a loyalty mission where Delta was standing next to Crow, and they looked like they were from different games. Granted, Delta looks like she was an asset that escaped from an OG design doc, but still.

Pennsylvanian fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Apr 25, 2024

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DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Limbus also loving rocks and will definitely make my goty if they keep up the quality of the next few cantos. It's arguably the most f2p modern gacha because you can grind to get the characters pretty easily. Project moon's nameless city setting might be the best I've seen in a decade. Imagine 26 different cybe punk dystopias smashed together with supernatural poo poo poured on top.

The problem with limbus is that the buy-in is really high to get the most out of it. You kinda need to play a 50-hour management game, then a 50-hour card game, then a book, and maybe a comic on top of maybe a bunch of classic literature.

The games are also hard as hell and absolutely demand that you have a certain amount of mastery of its systems that it doesn't explain too well.

Indecisive
May 6, 2007


no the problem with limbus is its written by edgy teenagers who think gore is just the coolest thing in the universe and love nothing more than writing hosed up torture porn. the summary of every game is 90% of the cast dies and everything sucks forever and limbus opens with "this is our DEATH BUS it EATS CORPSES isnt that AWESOME" and every single loving character is an rear end in a top hat who loves violence and murders for no reason and of course the 1 kinda normal character gets turned into a monster and murdered and i just gave up because loving hell

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled
The actual problem with Limbus is that the CEO kowtowed to the South Korean incels/chuds who are massive misogynists that were offended that a "summer" servant didn't have her tits out so they went on a witch hunt to get the artist fired, found out he was a guy, and then instead went after one of the two story CG artists because she was a woman who had an old deleted social media post saying she thought it should be illegal for men to take creep shot photos of women on public transportation. So they accused her of being a feminist and the CEO fired her and she disappeared for almost a year.

This also set off witch hunts on other south Korean games (and this one) to have them remove anything that resembles the pinch emoji since that is obviously saying a guy's dick is small and is misandry/etc.


It ain't great being a lady in South Korea.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Indecisive posted:

no the problem with limbus is its written by edgy teenagers who think gore is just the coolest thing in the universe and love nothing more than writing hosed up torture porn. the summary of every game is 90% of the cast dies and everything sucks forever and limbus opens with "this is our DEATH BUS it EATS CORPSES isnt that AWESOME" and every single loving character is an rear end in a top hat who loves violence and murders for no reason and of course the 1 kinda normal character gets turned into a monster and murdered and i just gave up because loving hell

sounds badass tbh

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Indecisive posted:

no the problem with limbus is its written by edgy teenagers who think gore is just the coolest thing in the universe and love nothing more than writing hosed up torture porn. the summary of every game is 90% of the cast dies and everything sucks forever and limbus opens with "this is our DEATH BUS it EATS CORPSES isnt that AWESOME" and every single loving character is an rear end in a top hat who loves violence and murders for no reason and of course the 1 kinda normal character gets turned into a monster and murdered and i just gave up because loving hell

thats the cool part

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

MagusDraco posted:

The actual problem with Limbus is that the CEO kowtowed to the South Korean incels/chuds who are massive misogynists that were offended that a "summer" servant didn't have her tits out so they went on a witch hunt to get the artist fired, found out he was a guy, and then instead went after one of the two story CG artists because she was a woman who had an old deleted social media post saying she thought it should be illegal for men to take creep shot photos of women on public transportation. So they accused her of being a feminist and the CEO fired her and she disappeared for almost a year.

This also set off witch hunts on other south Korean games (and this one) to have them remove anything that resembles the pinch emoji since that is obviously saying a guy's dick is small and is misandry/etc.


It ain't great being a lady in South Korea.
this is the bad part

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

Jfc I feel so old and out of touch trying to understand these last few posts

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Indecisive posted:

it has been surprisingly good, i started playing it at launch just to see how bad it would be (obviously a game so blatantly fanservicey would come out garbage, especially by this dev i never heard of). altho I think they had a previous game called Destiny's child or something that was actually kinda quietly good also?

just make sure you have the discipline to never open your wallet. you don't need to and it is not worth it. if you actually enjoy the game you can eventually get everything you need playing 20-30 mins a day

I played Destiny's Child for a while when it first launched. It was okay and I hung out right up until the typical gacha bullshit kicked in hard.

Finding out they're the ones behind Nikke makes me want to give it a try so I guess I'm checking that out if I can pull myself away from PokeRogue.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Good youtuber Moon Channel did a two-part documentary on the South Korean gender wars if you want more on that stuff. Mind you, it's a depressing watch, poo poo is not great for anyone over there. Hyper capitalism + hyper Confucianism, great combination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Im4YAMWK74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woB0eecbf6A

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

MagusDraco posted:

The actual problem with Limbus is that the CEO kowtowed to the South Korean incels/chuds who are massive misogynists that were offended that a "summer" servant didn't have her tits out so they went on a witch hunt to get the artist fired, found out he was a guy, and then instead went after one of the two story CG artists because she was a woman who had an old deleted social media post saying she thought it should be illegal for men to take creep shot photos of women on public transportation. So they accused her of being a feminist and the CEO fired her and she disappeared for almost a year.

This also set off witch hunts on other south Korean games (and this one) to have them remove anything that resembles the pinch emoji since that is obviously saying a guy's dick is small and is misandry/etc.


It ain't great being a lady in South Korea.

Also isn't the SK President more or less vocally backing the incels?

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Indecisive posted:

no the problem with limbus is its written by edgy teenagers who think gore is just the coolest thing in the universe and love nothing more than writing hosed up torture porn. the summary of every game is 90% of the cast dies and everything sucks forever and limbus opens with "this is our DEATH BUS it EATS CORPSES isnt that AWESOME" and every single loving character is an rear end in a top hat who loves violence and murders for no reason and of course the 1 kinda normal character gets turned into a monster and murdered and i just gave up because loving hell

sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013



beep by grandpa posted:

Jfc I feel so old and out of touch trying to understand these last few posts

I don't think being unfamiliar with South Korean politics makes you out of touch.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Dabir posted:

Good youtuber Moon Channel did a two-part documentary on the South Korean gender wars if you want more on that stuff. Mind you, it's a depressing watch, poo poo is not great for anyone over there. Hyper capitalism + hyper Confucianism, great combination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Im4YAMWK74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woB0eecbf6A

these vids place a weird amount of emphasis on the confucianism stuff tbh, it feels mildly orientalist

Indecisive
May 6, 2007


im not watching the vids so i dunno what you mean but if the spheres were reversed im sure such a discussion of the alt right of america/europe/etc would also have a lot of focus on religion its kind of the source of a lot of this kind of sexist brain rot

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

There's plenty of Korean and other informed people in the comments agreeing that the Confucianist mindset is a pretty significant factor in why Korea is the way it is, and expanding on that with their own perspectives.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Endorph posted:

these vids place a weird amount of emphasis on the confucianism stuff tbh, it feels mildly orientalist

You can't really address that issue without giving at least some attention to the ready excuse/justification local chuds get from the pre-existing, highly hierarchical culture created by centuries of Confucianism. Just like you will be leaving a massive gap if you talk about the Reagan revolution and the conversative ascendancy post-Carter if you don't mention pentecostals.

The degree of how much focus it requires varies with each viewer's tolerance, sure. But unless the creator is going "This is the SOLE reason behind a massive, complex phenomenon", it's usually alright.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

oh, for sure, the main vibe/issue im kinda getting is like, christianity stuff in america is something a large portion of the population still directly adheres to, while the Confucianism stuff in korea is more baked into the social structures/societal expectations than an active force in the modern day, if that makes sense? theres a reason i said 'mildly', its not that big a deal, more just some of the phrasing he uses

Farg
Nov 19, 2013
i can sum this up pretty simply

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

Indecisive posted:

no the problem with limbus is its written by edgy teenagers who think gore is just the coolest thing in the universe and love nothing more than writing hosed up torture porn. the summary of every game is 90% of the cast dies and everything sucks forever and limbus opens with "this is our DEATH BUS it EATS CORPSES isnt that AWESOME" and every single loving character is an rear end in a top hat who loves violence and murders for no reason and of course the 1 kinda normal character gets turned into a monster and murdered and i just gave up because loving hell

i don't think that this is a fair description of the games but also if you're having such a bad time with them then it's fair to drop them yeah, no reason to force yourself through a miserable experience

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
Confucius never rolled a gacha a day in his life

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Endorph posted:

oh, for sure, the main vibe/issue im kinda getting is like, christianity stuff in america is something a large portion of the population still directly adheres to, while the Confucianism stuff in korea is more baked into the social structures/societal expectations than an active force in the modern day, if that makes sense? theres a reason i said 'mildly', its not that big a deal, more just some of the phrasing he uses

You could be right, I don't know. But in the same way, the radically Puritan form of Christianity practised by the first colonists isn't exactly common in America these days, but its shadow still looms over the country. If you were doing a deep dive on America's cultural problems for someone totally unfamiliar with the place, it would make sense to start there and refer back to it when it's relevant.

E: lol I forgot that Moony has also done exactly that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiNrIM9KVE

Dabir fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Apr 26, 2024

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
The inevitable reveal of Versus Wolves has arrived. Can't wait for next month.

theCalamity
Oct 23, 2010

Cry Havoc and let slip the Hogs of War

claw game handjob posted:

The inevitable reveal of Versus Wolves has arrived. Can't wait for next month.

God drat. Good poo poo John

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
As soon as I heard Woolie utter the words "Canadian-Japanese-Argentinian" I instantly knew what he was about to say and I am very hyped for next month's episode.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
It's a good show.

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