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pumpinglemma posted:Do we have any reason to believe Bercow will actually allow Meaningful Vote 4: A New Hope? Hasn't May just pissed about too much by this point? According to Peston adding this thing that gives MPs power over the future negotiations would be enough to make it a different bill.
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Imo were gonna have tezza still in number 10 by 2022 and we'll be on MV67
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Also found out that despite being a politics nerd who reads the news every day my dad has no idea what a SJW is let alone great replacement and stuff. I'm kinda realising the journalists are mostly unaware of the broiling surge of nazism infecting the online right for the last decade or so which is now predictably spilling into irl UK discourse. That's a pretty worrying thought and makes a lot of sense. They see the resurgent left and attack us but I think rather than allying with the far right most of the chattering class just don't see the nazis coming yet.
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Sorry for abandoning rural socialist chat. I was cooking a beef roast and then playing board games at a friend's house. spiderbot posted:Labour's pledge at the last election to look into why local pubs were failing, and help communities revive them A lot of people have mentioned the buses, banks, post offices, emergency services, GP surgeries schools and treatment centers or town hospitals but this is a new one. The important things about the idea are obviously to provide people with the space to socialise and maybe get a football club going or a quiz night or to watch the sports. From a strategic point of view, though, turning the local pub red is definitely a way to break the culture. I really like this one. Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Mar 31, 2019 |
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The point of doorstepping is to get Labour into the minds of the public who aren't politically aware and aren't thinking aboit the election. When it comes to the ballot box, someone personally turning up and asking how you'll vote is a surprisingly powerful influencer on voting how they want you to, because you remember that a Labour person personally asked you to vote for them. You're not there to convince people, other bits of politics do that. You're there to remind them it's humans behind it all.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:The point of doorstepping is to get Labour into the minds of the public who aren't politically aware and aren't thinking aboit the election. When it comes to the ballot box, someone personally turning up and asking how you'll vote is a surprisingly powerful influencer on voting how they want you to, because you remember that a Labour person personally asked you to vote for them. You're not there to convince people, other bits of politics do that. You're there to remind them it's humans behind it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVOZnDsiCW8
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marktheando posted:According to Peston adding this thing that gives MPs power over the future negotiations would be enough to make it a different bill. Its must comfort May to know that no matter how badly she fucks up, a handful of Labour MPs will always try to bail her out. I do really hope the Nandy/Snell crew are getting leaned on hard by the whips. If they vote May's deal through when we're on the verge of getting a customs union and potentially a general election their career in Labour should be over. It doesn't seem an exaggeration to say a lot of people would never forgive the party.
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jabby posted:Its must comfort May to know that no matter how badly she fucks up, a handful of Labour MPs will always try to bail her out. These two are the kind of MPs who'll be backed by Watson in any potential internal fight (Watson was one of the masterminds behind Gareth Snells by-election campaign of "Make Stoke Great Again")
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MikeCrotch posted:"Make Stoke Great Again"
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If I was rich I would buy all the main businesses in a village, and distribute 49% of each among all the families living there equally Of course a year later some multinational would buy up all the people's shares with a small army of lawyers overriding any kind of contract I could whip up and then do a hostile takeover, but for a couple months it could work
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WhatEvil posted:I think their issue might have been with calling it a "bullet train" rather than questioning it existing at all. If the journey takes 2 days then it ain't no bullet train. It's definitely the high speed network, and in any case my point was more the price anyway!
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Is there an article somewhere that explains what Common Market 2.0, Customs Union, etc. actually mean? My understanding is that for practical purposes the only real difference between CM2.0 and today is the UK won't vote in EU elections? And everything else the UK won't be a part of is mostly minor stuff that doesn't affect most people but the tinfoil hat types have blown it up as an infringement of sovereignty? Is a customs union just the "goods" part of the four freedoms? If so, I thought the EU didn't allow picking and choosing, it was all four freedoms or none at all? If a customs union is just a free trade agreement, isn't that all May's deal is (or is intended to become)?
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Mar 31, 2019 23:56
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Nothingtoseehere posted:You're not there to convince people, other bits of politics do that. You're there to remind them it's humans behind it all. This is the most important thing, you do not have to be anything besides a person that cared enough to say hello and let a person know they do actually matter. If any goon is hesitant about pounding the pavements next election because they aren't confident in how charming they are stop worrying, it's your compassion and commitment that makes a difference your charm is irrelevant.
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Kreez posted:Is there an article somewhere that explains what Common Market 2.0, Customs Union, etc. actually mean? Customs union or any soft brexit really, would involve accepting all four freedoms, including freedom of movement.
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New thread here, join us for hellmonth!
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