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Wii Spawn Camper posted:So the Breen are a fluid race that look down on Solids, wow cool haven’t heard that before Well now we know why they allied with the Dominion!
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Small Strange Bird posted:"Come to Quark's, Quark's is fun, come right now, don't walk, run!" That would have been a much more fun conspiracy around which to build Picard S3’s big bad, let me tell you. All the 25-and-unders are activated and start mainlining caffeine that the Ferengi sell them at exorbitant rates.
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This episode really was the worst of the season so far. A lot of it didn't make much sense. The extended backstory for Moll and Lok make me actively empathize with them less. Just a couple idiots going to destroy the galaxy, one a brat with daddy issues and one a royal failson. Both searching for a paradise that doesn't exist like the idiot from last season, willing to do any terrible thing to get it for themselves.
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Apr 26, 2024 14:59
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But enough about Dr Soran
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Apollodorus posted:But enough about Dr Soran You know with some spore drive you could in theory easily get into the ribbon.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:You know with some spore drive you could in theory easily get into the ribbon. Or Sha’ka’ree, I have to assume.
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Can the spore drive enter fluidic space? Really makes you think About how dumb both things are
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Apr 26, 2024 17:45
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The thing I really liked about this episode was the B-plot on the Discovery where we got to see Rayner's first day as Captain. It was fun getting to follow the crew through their daily routine as they adapted to Rayner's leadership style. A worse show would have devoted a third of the episode's run time to an abysmal series of flashbacks set in a warehouse.
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Apr 26, 2024 19:23
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Typical Pubbie posted:A worse show would have devoted a third of the episode's run time to an abysmal series of flashbacks set in a warehouse. ...is this a bit?
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Apr 26, 2024 19:33
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The_Doctor posted:...is this a bit? Yes they're trolling you.
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Rubber Chicken posted:Can the spore drive enter fluidic space? There's even more uhhh interstellar mycelium or whatever the gently caress from all the moisture
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Apr 26, 2024 19:48
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"Species 8472 is the most dangerous society we've ever faced. We need to develop countermeasures against them should they invade regular space." "They live in 'fluidic space,' correct?" "Indeed." "And they look like walking snails?" "I hadn't ever thought of them that way, but sort of." "Have we tried salt-based weapons?" "This is the future, Lieutenant." "Oh...right. How silly of me. Have we tried QUANTUM NEUTRONIUM NEUTRINO salt-based weapons?"
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I don't particularly like the choice with the Breen--I always preferred the idea Weyoun was full of poo poo because he's Weyoun and the Breen were super weirdass extreme environment aliens, like the Tholians, rather than just Some Guys. Especially since nutrek has the tech and budget to show us weirder aliens and they've taken advantage of that. I'm not like hopping mad about it, just not the choice I would've made.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:This episode really was the worst of the season so far. A lot of it didn't make much sense. The extended backstory for Moll and Lok make me actively empathize with them less. Just a couple idiots going to destroy the galaxy, one a brat with daddy issues and one a royal failson. Both searching for a paradise that doesn't exist like the idiot from last season, willing to do any terrible thing to get it for themselves. Can't say I disagree. The Breen made their blood oath vengeance, but we never see Moll and L'ak chased by the Breen. The galaxy is loving huge. You telling me that you can't just fuckoff to a random place where they won't find out? They aren't even looking! Also it seems like the factions are too busy fighting with each other for power than to bother hunting down two people.
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They call them the Breen because the more that's revealed about them, the more BoREENg they get
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The whole vibes of those scenes to me were something like Moll: Me? I'm a different kind of smuggler. I don't always follow the rules cause THE MAN can't hold me down. I do what I want when I want. I can't be contained Lok: Uhh, I don't know if I'm allowed to talk to girls
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I just really, really, wish that the Breen would turn out to be the remnants of the civilization Phlox doomed to die because of a known, curable disease, because he had a particularly nasty day and decided to play god instead of being a doctor with ethical values. The half-assed version of the antidote Archer finally coaxed him to give away bought them enough time to condemn the entire civilization to live in freezer suits, because their bodies got messed up when they desperately went for genetic manipulation as a last resort attempt. So they learned the valuable lesson from Archer: never forgive, never forget, and never ask but take by force what you want or need. And when you make an oath, you live by it or die, no excuses to break it when because you felt like not bothering that day.
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I liked the idea that the suits were a ruse or privacy conceit or xenophobia or a democratizing egalitarian move and Breen wasn't a species Or maybe it was the founding species and others wore the same suits with robo voices so they could be a meritocracy Or something other than Green Guys
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FlamingLiberal posted:I just realized that this last episode took place in Tzenkethi space, but there was no real mention of it after the end of last week's episode. That species still hasn't appeared on screen and has only been mentioned.
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Apr 26, 2024 21:29
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I think their skin should have been a mix of brown and green
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Nessus posted:I doubt they will, since that would cost money and any design has the risk of getting Larry Niven suing them for a piece of the action. I think you're confusing the Kzinti and the Tzenkethi. The Kzinti stuff seems cleared up anyway, we've had mentions of them in a few shows and a recurring Kzin character on Lower Decks. (Including an episode where he was on the away mission to a ringworld!) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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MikeJF posted:I think you're confusing the Kzinti and the Tzenkethi.
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Nessus posted:I do remember that darn cat. I guess they must have! I had thought the Tzenkethi were a bowdlerization of the Kzin because they didn't have the gizzard/budget to just use 'em. The Tzenkethi, if STO visualization is to be believed, are four-armed - second smaller pair growing from their nipples - slug-like bipedal hulks, which wear artificial exoskeletons when outside their natural habitat.
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Nessus posted:I do remember that darn cat. I guess they must have! I had thought the Tzenkethi were a bowdlerization of the Kzin because they didn't have the gizzard/budget to just use 'em. The name was inspired by Kzin but that's about it, the DS9 writer said he imagined them as giant armoured lizards.
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Der Kyhe posted:The Tzenkethi, if STO visualization is to be believed, are four-armed - second smaller pair growing from their nipples - slug-like bipedal hulks, which wear artificial exoskeletons when outside their natural habitat. For some reason every beta continuity seems obsessed with creating their own new wild interpretation of those guys.
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Knormal posted:space dinosaurs. Aren't Voth canonically the space dinosaurs?
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*HONKS IN BREEN* Oh excuse me, something in my throat
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Der Kyhe posted:Aren't Voth canonically the space dinosaurs? Snorb posted:I thought the Vaadwaur were the space dinosaurs? 
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I keep thinking about how they took two stops in two different episodes for the one bridge guy's entire characterization to be "loves the Constitution class" and then they have a Constitution class and it never comes up. It's so weird. Feels like the episode went long and that ended up on the cutting room floor, even for Disco writing that is an incredible whiff. Why bring it up twice if you weren't planning to pay it off here? But it's a streaming show and the length varies anyway so why cut it?
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Grand Fromage posted:I don't particularly like the choice with the Breen--I always preferred the idea Weyoun was full of poo poo because he's Weyoun and the Breen were super weirdass extreme environment aliens, like the Tholians, rather than just Some Guys. Especially since nutrek has the tech and budget to show us weirder aliens and they've taken advantage of that. I'm not like hopping mad about it, just not the choice I would've made. I think I actually prefer the idea that Weyoun was being honest and that Breen were just another nose-ridge of the week alien from a pleasantly temperate world. They just happened to catch a satellite broadcast of Return of the Jedi, thought Leia's costume while rescuing Han was baller and made that their whole identity. They very specifically wanted Earth as war spoils, presumably because it was considered a pleasantly temperate planet 30 years ago, so it all tracks. Alternatively they later caught broadcasts of Rise of Skywalker and just had to put an end to that. Edit: This episode was thoroughly meh and Discovery is the last show I wanted to unmask the Breen but whatever. We're here now and we have to live with it. Gollom fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Apr 27, 2024 |
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Kinda impressive how we keep finding out new bits of info on how Picard S3 could’ve somehow been even worse https://twitter.com/trekmovie/status/1783960497420705894?s=46&t=YuqSROOCXrcRx1gn_5vV7Q
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Eh, could have worked if they claimed it was the character from his first appearance. Unless that dude died, I don't remember off-hand. It would still reek of fanservice and small universe syndrome.
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Imagine Quark getting violently killed on screen only for them to say on twitter it was the other guy.
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Wee Bairns posted:Eh, could have worked if they claimed it was the character from his first appearance. Unless that dude died, I don't remember off-hand. It would still reek of fanservice and small universe syndrome. It'd be a good reference really since they did that with the Ferengi quite a bit in TNG - same actor, different character.
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Wee Bairns posted:Eh, could have worked if they claimed it was the character from his first appearance. Unless that dude died, I don't remember off-hand. It would still reek of fanservice and small universe syndrome. I mean, yeah that would be funny as hell if it was Letek who got owned to death by Worf. Though I can see how the drooling dipshits who actually unironically liked Season 3 would instantly jump to "OMG WORF KILLED QUARK!" like the paste eaters who thought DS9 blew up the Enterprise-D and killed off the TNG crew in "The Jem'Hadar" and wrote angry letters to Paramount about it.
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