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December 12, 1978 A few days into the deliberations of the People's Congress, the Hawaiian ship, crammed with 50,000 people in cramped, uncomfortable conditions, arrives at Luna. Although it only took a few minutes to fly there, using its gigantic Trans-Newtonian engines, it will take days to actually unload the ship's passengers, and weeks to properly house them. The 3,000 or so pioneers already present at Lunagrad are working around the clock setting up life support infrastructure and makeshift housing. Most of them haven't slept in days. Cargo pods are pressurized and refitted into temporary housing. What were intended to be small habitat modules are hastily shut down, ripped apart, and the components used to seal off and pressurize natural caves, which are filled with basic living infrastructure. To maximize available space, hydroponic greenhouses, engineering and life support spaces, storage rooms, and communal spaces are made to pull double duty as housing. Oxygen, water, and heat shouldn't be a problem for this population size; this was always the plan, so the machinery is extremely overengineered. The problem is space. There just isn't enough physical space right now. Lunagrad has only existed for a few days, and they haven't had time to erect anything more than a small outpost. The first large group of settlers wasn't supposed to arrive for months at least.  The Luna is cycling back and forth between Earth and the Moon as fast as they can load and unload the cargo holds, loaded down with life support supplies and prefabbed structures - but its very small cargo holds are a major limitation. Even so, the Lunar pioneers are confident that, by the time the first 50,000 finish unloading, there will be sufficient space for over 200,000 people.  This is good, because the people on the wait list are getting impatient. The first few thousand pioneers are scientists, engineers, technical experts, and trained cosmonauts. They were carefully selected and rigorously trained. They came for various reasons - the pursuit of knowledge, adventure, fame, serving the Revolution, whatever - but they all ultimately chose to be here. The rest of the millions of people from around the world who have signed up for Lunagrad, on the other hand, come from all walks of life. They are doctors and teachers, factory workers, miners, farmers, deckhands, dishwashers, any profession you can imagine. Those who the lottery placed higher on the list have received some limited training for surviving and operating in space, enough to mostly get by, but they're no cosmonauts. Many of them are people who have been displaced by the war; some of them were never successfully relocated, and will be going straight from refugee camps to the Moon. They're coming because they need to.  We can't resettle every displaced person offworld, of course; we probably can't even do it for a small fraction of them. But we can do it for some of them, and they're coming, ready or not. We could have asked the Hawaiians to delay, and they probably would have; they're happy to have a win, but they are still ultimately transporting passengers on the Comintern's behalf, to a Comintern outpost, and they have reason to stay on our good side - but unrest is getting serious, and the solutions the Congress is implementing will take months. Trying to stop the flood, while a functioning passenger ship capable of carrying them hangs in orbit, would make it worse. And so, they come. The delegates to the Congress watch live feeds from the Moon as the Hawaiian landers, from their design clearly heavily based on the American Apollo hardware, start to descend. December 18, 1978 The Queen's passengers are mostly unloaded. It's chaos down there right now - there isn't even a common language, to say nothing of a proper administrative structure. Ad-hoc collectives of people who live in the same hab, or speak the same language, or work in the same facility have started to form, and spokespeople for these collectives meet with the scientific committee that had been running the place before they arrived (not that they had time to do much of that). This is the closest thing the Moon has to a government right now.  One person, the First 250's mental health expert, known as Freudian, holds everything together. Officially he's no more 'in charge' than anyone else on the science committee, but unofficially, more and more people have been looking to him for leadership. A simple, down-to-earth person from a desperately poor background, Freudian knows how to talk to the new arrivals in a way they understand, without condescending - and, more importantly, listen to them. He hears what is needed and promises it will get done - and when he says that, it gets done, even if he has to do it himself. There are rumors already spreading among the cramped halls that Freudian never sleeps. December 19, 1978 The People's Congress for the coming year concludes, and the delegates begin returning to their home nations. Recruits for the Ascension Island Security Force begin assembling at the training camp in Siberia. Promising young prospects are sent from around the Comintern; this must be a multinational force. Though the officers and senior NCOs will all be Great Revolutionary War veterans from several countries, all of the enlisted personnel will be completely new to this - it's important that the new unit be loyal to the Comintern as a whole, and not their host nations; they must think of this organization as their organization, not a body they are on temporary assignment to. It will take months to make a proper unit out of them. December 25, 1978 Christmas. The Queen's second load of passengers have just finished unloading, and there are now over 100,000 people on the Moon. They sprawl across the surface around the Lunagrad site. All four natural caves in the area have been sealed off and converted into living space, and some enterprising former miners are already talking about tunnelling out additional space or even sinking entirely new shafts. The crates new cargo arrives in (for the Luna is still shuttling back and forth, multiple times per day) are disassembled by work crews in space suits as soon as they're unloaded, working right there on the hardened-regolith shuttle landing pad that is the center of the city. They are relayed by still more work crews - rovers and heavy equipment are precious resources, and there are so, so many people, so manual labor is applied wherever it can be. Teams manhandle the big metal panels and struts along trails threading between the modules, which have been cleared of large rocks and graded flat by still more work crews, who are busy doing the same elsewhere. They bring them to construction sites, where they are erected into frames around which duranium-alloy hull plating and radiation shielding can be fastened. Others string electrical cables to the new sites from Lunagrad's central nuclear reactor, along poles driven into the ground next to the dirt roads. Hanging from these poles are strings of lights, which are not currently needed in the perpetual day, but the waning moon will in a few Earth-days plunge the city into a month of darkness. Someone has hung little festive green tree-shaped decorations, shaped from scrap wire, from many of them. The hab collectives have caught on over the course of the week, and unless something big changes are likely here to stay as part of the Moon's culture. New arrivals are greeted at the pad by 'veterans' who have scarcely been here longer than they have, and directed to a group that can help them find their way - or encouraged to find other new arrivals to group up with. Travelling between habitats is still difficult; a few of the central structures are linked by tubes, but reaching most of the outlying habs requires EVA, and that's not something you can do casually. As a result, Christmas on the Moon mostly happens where people sleep. There are children to enjoy it, a few hundred in total; children were not included in the lottery, but people who had children were permitted to bring them. The gifts are generally small and simple, for mass is at a premium right now. The base main command center hosts a small televised party, broadcast live on Earth. Freudian falls asleep at a desk and remains there, visible on camera, for the entire evening. December 26, 1978  Having enjoyed a brief day off, Dr. Matveyev and his team deliver the results of their latest project, an optimization of their nuclear thermal engine design. In accordance with the will of the People's Congress, they are immediately retasked to radically different work. They will begin developing improved Trans-Newtonian industrial machinery and processes, using the practical knowledge of working with TNEs they have already developed on the power plant project. This will likely occupy Matveyev, and the 25 research complexes under his authority, for a year. January 1, 1979  On New Year's Day, the Socialist Aid Program is officially put into effect. Industry is retasked to build a series of simple prefabricated housing designs, with standardized furniture and appliances to place in them. Factory conversion assets are re-prioritized to focus on war-torn regions. The city-state of Detroit, already a Comintern member, is selected as the site for a pilot program that will show the potential of the project - a shiny new Trans-Newtonian factory complex, surrounded by beautiful new socialist housing, in a park-like remediated natural environment. Production power and efficiency, natural beauty in defiance of the devastation of war, and homes for the people. It will take many months to build. January 15, 1979 A severe blizzard choked with atmospheric ash, similar to but of lesser intensity than the Great Blizzard that struck North America last year, tears through Western Europe. Though dozens are killed, the relatively more stable political situation there, and the much more favorable geography (France is a lot smaller than the United States), makes humanitarian efforts significantly easier. Coverage of this polarizes opinions in the former United States, with some pointing to it as an example of what the socialists can do for those who join them, while others use it to argue a conspiracy theory that the Comintern deliberately allowed Americans to die, and may have even caused the blizzard in the first place. January 28, 1979  It has been less than two months since Leonov landed. Over four hundred thousand people live on the Moon. They work constantly, in shifts, swarming over the surface, packing the regolith down tight with their boots. Already they have more than quadrupled the size main settlement at Lunagrad. Two more outposts have been constructed, kilometers away, in promising sites for future development. A wide, graded dirt road separates them, graded largely by hand. Regular rover service connects them. Both of them already have over ten thousand residents, most of whom have only been there for a few days.  On this same day, the civilian shipyards complete their first major expansion. We can now build two civilian ships at a time with a maximum displacement of 20,000 void tons, twice the size of the Luna and Tranquility and of comparable size to the Queen. With no explicit directive from the government, the Ministry of Outer Space Affairs on their own initiative elect to focus next on adding additional slipways to the yards. February 3, 1979  The Hawaiians launch a second ship, named after the current reigning queen. It is of exactly the same design as their first ship, and in the announcement they state that the two had been under construction at the same time, but they had been unable to finish them simultaneously due to limited supplies of TNEs for construction. They mention the enormous expense of launching the ships to orbit in the press release, and conclude by stating the next priority of HRSA will be to loft an orbital shipyard station. Privately, their administrators contact the Ministry of Outer Space Affairs to coordinate an orbital slot for the station that will not impede MOSA operations.  At this point the extra ship is a welcome addition; people are still clamoring to come to the Moon, a situation exacerbated by positive publicity from television reports and messages home from the new arrivals. In addition, Doctor Vasilyev, formerly dismissed as a crank and a charlatan, presents a working cryonics system, which has enormous implications for both transportation and medicine. The Vasilyev Process will allow organisms to be held in suspended animation indefinitely, so long as there is power, appropriate environmental conditions, and regular maintenance. Vasilyev's findings are distributed throughout the Comintern, and it won't be long before they start to be applied. Having proven himself a real scientist and not a quack, Vasilyev and his small team are, in accordance with the current research priorities, put to work on a project to improve the common workers' access to luxury goods. This is far outside his area of expertise, but we have determined it is the work needed for the Revolution right now, and he will adapt. February 4, 1979  A young PhD, Louise Garner, finishes her education at Interkosmos and joins the Comintern's scientific team. She hails from Huntsville in New Afrika, an embattled patchwork nation in the former United States which is gradually growing its strength and territory and building coalitions with other nascent socialist states in the region. Garner is an expert in missiles and rocketry. February 7, 1979 Nazi war criminal Josef Mengele suffers a stroke and drowns in a swimming pool in Brazil. The Comintern regrets not having been able to execute him officially. A coalition of Shia Islamist, socialist, communist, and liberal groups launch a general uprising against the government of Iran; the country is soon gripped in insurrection. February 13, 1979 An abnormally intense snowstorm destroys the Hood Canal Bridge in Washington State, Cascadia. Miraculously, no one is killed. February 18, 1979 The Shah of Iran and many of his closest supporters flee to Saudi Arabia, and his government functionally ceases to exist. Rebels occupying Tehran proclaim the Provisional Government of the Republic of Iran. It is a loose and uneasy coalition between Islamists and socialists that could fall apart at any moment. March 5, 1979  The first proper unit of the International People's Army is officially certified as ready to deploy. They march in review alongside troops from several of the host nation armies in Red Square in Moscow, to celebrate the beginning of a permanent multinational force. It was deemed important that the new troops stand out. They're using Russian equipment, mostly, and the uniforms are surplus Russian as well. They need to look distinct from the Russians in any way possible, to make it clear that they are independent, that they serve all the people, not just one nation. The easiest and simplest way to do this was to change the uniforms. From there the question was just which colors of dye were most easily available in large quantities, and, once they found out, that shade was officially adopted, now and for the foreseeable future, as the color of the standard duty uniform of the IPA. It is for this reason that, alongside soldiers in various shades of tan and green and brown, there is a formation parading down the street in uniforms of rather fetching sky blue.  Their first commanding officer, Colonel Mr Pwase, marches in front. A harsh but fair taskmaster with a good mind for philosophy, the men and women under Mr Pwase's command have grown to respect him a great deal, and his skill on the battlefield is undeniable. After the review, the battalion is immediately loaded onto planes for the long flight to Ascension Island, their duty posting. A second battalion begins training. March 7, 1979 The crew of the Luna, who have been worked to exhaustion, are allowed a few weeks of well-earned shore leave. They return to Earth to a hero's welcome, and shipyard techs spend the whole time swarming over their ship checking and rechecking every component. March 15, 1979 The first Socialist Aid Project prefabricated housing developments are completed - part of the initial pilot program in Detroit, completed earlier in the rest to house construction workers; one in California, one in Angola, one in Zimbabwe, one in Vietnam, one in Chile, and one in France. It is hoped that the wide variety of different cultures, local environmental conditions, and political situations will allow valuable data to be collected about the designs of the structures, their viability, and what, if anything needs to be changed. As a bonus, they will also immediately house tens of thousands of displaced persons. March 23, 1979 Less than four months after the initial landing, one million people live on the Moon. They hail from every member nation in the Comintern and most of the nations outside of it. A hundred languages can be heard spoken in the caves and the modules and the corridors. The central outpost at Lunagrad is now a metropolis of over 700,000, sprawling out from the central pad in organic organized chaos. Nearly a dozen smaller settlements exist at the end of dirt roads radiating out from Lunagrad like spokes on a wheel. Their lights can be seen from orbit when the moon is dark, and powerful telescopes can even see them from Earth. All of the life support infrastructure and hab modules constructed for the initial development of the settlement have been expended, and there is no available industrial capacity to build more. Local collectives, taking the initiative, have started mining local conventional materials and manufacturing new infrastructure on site, but it's a slow and inefficient process being conducted essentially as a cottage industry, insufficient to really keep up with growth. The informal, ad-hoc structure of a federation of collectives sending spokespeople to meet with the governing scientific council (for it is still officially governed as a research outpost) is starting to solidify into something permanent, and people are beginning to talk about standardization, and about getting things in writing, and about a nation. March 31, 1979 The Hawaiians announce a suspension of transportation of new Comintern pioneers to the Moon until such time as the Ministry of Outer Space Affairs verifies there is sufficient life support for new arrivals. The Two Queens park in low Earth orbit, and their crews are presented medals by the Crown Princess upon returning to Honolulu. The Comintern's own Tranquility continues to run multiple flights a day, carrying passengers in both directions along with small packages. Mister Bates fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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Oct 23, 2020 07:55
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Clearly the solution is to colonize more planets so we have more places to ship colonists. How about Mars? Europa? Venus?
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Oct 23, 2020 09:38
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Once again, New Afrika suggests that we hold off on future colonization until we can survey other worlds for Trans Newtonian Elements. It is one thing to move people off earth, yes- but these communities will have no future unless they can find economic activity. That said, New Afrika also proposes that efforts must be undertaken to make Luna a center of transnewtonian industry. The lower gravity on the moon will make heavy industry there far easier than on the Earth at the moment; It might also be far cheaper to ship raw materials to Luna itself than to earth.
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Oct 23, 2020 09:42
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The Kalmar Union agrees with the delegates from New Afrika, further colonization efforts should be de-prioritized until the Lunar colonies are further established with at least it's own proper starport and supporting industry. A proper survey of Luna is also necessary to determine the extent of mining operations that need to be established. This establishment of a proper gateway will only aid in our further operations in interplanetary space.
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Oct 23, 2020 11:02
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Pirate Radar posted:How’s the weather in Tallahassee these days? bad! The Lower Georgia United Workers' Front congratulates the Ministry for Outer Space Affairs on the moon colonization project, and we wish to express solidarity with the brave comrades living and working on the Moon. However, we concur with the delegates of New Afrika and the Kalmar Union, further colonization efforts should wait until we have found more sources of the TNEs that have made all this possible. Additionally, we are concerned about the state of our homeworld. Space colonization is good and boundaries should be expanded, but Earth is the womb of this proposed future spaceman civilization, and we should do our best to look after it. The people of our collective struggle with the effects of radioactive fallout. The destruction of Robins Air Force Base by atomic bomb, followed by the on-site detonation of a warhead at Fort Stewart during an attempted takeover by the Savannah River People's Cooperative, have left our region devastated. The story is the same across the continent near areas of the former empire's military installations. Our people are strong and we believe in the Comintern, but the blight created by the fallout and the radiation sickness not only saps our strength it also drives more and more desperate people into the arms of reactionary forces that threaten us all. To say nothing of the ecological impact this is having on our one naturally-habitable planet. We are not petitioning for relocation, this land is our home and we will not cede it to warlords or the federal "government" as they call themselves. Instead, we are asking that the Comintern devote some resources to investigating the use of TNE-derived technology for radiation cleanup. We are not sure whether this is even feasible, but it would radically change the lives of millions of people across the globe. And we believe that if it can be done, it would greatly improve the Comintern's standing in the minds of the worldwide proletariat.
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Oct 23, 2020 14:48
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On behalf of the people of Lunagrad, I express our most heartfelt thanks: to the visionaries in Comintern, and more specifically to our hardworking comrades in both the Ministry for Outer Space Affairs and the Hawaiian Royal Space Agency. Just four months ago, this moon was barren, but through international cooperation and solidarity, humanity has made its first permanent home outside of home. It cannot be denied, however, that Lunar colonisation has diverged significantly from its initial plan. At this point in the timeline, we were meant to house tens of thousands of scientists and engineers; instead, thanks to the Hawaiian ships, we are over a million strong, from every background imaginable. It is understandable that Lunagrad should have been intended as a scientific institution, but this is simply not the world we find ourselves in. As our mission has changed, so must the structures that govern it, which is why the people of Lunagrad are working with the scientific council to transition to self-rule as the Lunar Socialist Republic.  I also lend my thanks to our New Afrikan colleagues for their support of Lunar industry. The ecosystems of Earth have been badly shaken by the Great Revolutionary War, and while of course the Trans-Newtonian revolution can alleviate some of the weight of industry, it remains self-evident that one cannot pollute an atmosphere that does not exist. That same lack of atmosphere, along with our significantly reduced gravity, makes Lunagrad a perfect industrial hub for expansion further into the solar system. Of course, the Lunar population is keenly aware of the instability and infrastructure damage still present on Earth - so many of us were refugees, and my own family was displaced from our native Amsterdam by the war - and we would by no means seek to enrich ourselves to the detriment of others. We believe investment in Lunar industry will allow us to contribute to the rebuilding efforts, and help to alleviate the struggles of our terrestrial comrades.
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Oct 23, 2020 17:08
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While the Kalmar Union shares the Lower Georgia United Workers' Front's concern about the nuclear fallout plaguing many areas of the world, we feel focusing on a technological solution would not be appropriate at this point in time. Qualified scientists and intact research complexes are in relatively short supply, and from the briefs given by the lead scientists we do not believe an effective means of mitigating radioactive fallout would be found in time to make much of a difference to a great number of comrades. What we do have in ample supply is manpower. We suggest filling the academy to capacity to train up a corps of engineers and logistics experts, to both provide rapid response humanitarian aid and to assist local reconstruction efforts in building clean shelters and vital infrastructure where most needed.
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Oct 23, 2020 17:36
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The Coalition of the Outer Banks agrees with the delegate from the Lower Georgia United Workers' Front. A method of radiation cleanup must be found. Too many areas are too hazardous for settlement, and waiting years for the radiation to disperse naturally is non-viable.
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Oct 23, 2020 18:01
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The radiation is a short term problem, not a long term thing. Areas are only very lightly nuked. We only need to do immediate relief efforts. It's dropped to 33% of it's level from a year ago and should be gone entirely in 6 months.
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Oct 23, 2020 20:05
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There will be longer term effects in localized areas that were heavily bombed, climate disruptions for years, and increased global incidence of cancer and birth defects for likely decades, but on a global scale it's mostly dissipated. The last bombs were detonated seven years or so ago and atmospheric radiation is, as a global average, on track to approaching normal pre-war background levels. There are one or two places in Europe where bombing destroyed nuclear plants that will be uninhabitable basically forever without some heavy remediation, and lingering pockets of dangerous radiation in some ruined areas that have not been fully rebuilt. In particular those few sites where a warhead detonated on or under the ground are still generally not safe for habitation. In game mechanics terms this has little effect as the game only tracks atmospheric radiation. If and when it needs to be simulated I will do so in other surprise ways, and I promise that any policy developed to address it will have positive effects mechanically and not just in the story (in general this will be true for any policy you make, even if the effect is very minor). Mister Bates fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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Oct 23, 2020 20:17
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So like a handful of extra Chernobyl's with accompanying exclusion zones?
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Oct 23, 2020 20:30
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Yeah, more or less, with the problem being that some of them contained an order of magnitude more people than that and not all of them have been able to leave for various reasons. Ironically the Chernobyl NPP itself is being converted to use TNE reactors and the disaster that destroyed it in an alternate timeline will soon be functionally impossible.
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Oct 23, 2020 20:38
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Mister Bates what's the feasibility currently of building enough infantry to arrest the decline of Political Stability? If Logistics and (eventually) Construction units don't count towards this, what about fluffing it as a whole bunch of the cheapest type of infantry?
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Oct 23, 2020 21:45
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it pleases us that refugees featured heavily in the Luna colonisation efforts. We were going to propose as much. We should also consider dedicating some industry towards creating more offworld infrastructure, to ensure the Lunar colony continues to operate safely. The last thing we need is the ramshackle life support systems they have up there breaking down.
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Oct 23, 2020 21:54
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Antilles posted:Mister Bates what's the feasibility currently of building enough infantry to arrest the decline of Political Stability? If Logistics and (eventually) Construction units don't count towards this, what about fluffing it as a whole bunch of the cheapest type of infantry? The issue there is throughput, you have exactly one training facility which can train one military unit (of any size) at a time. You'd need to reallocate some industry to bringing more ground forces training facilities online. You could in theory make a bunch of independent company-size or even platoon-size formations and train them extremely quickly, but they'll have a correspondingly small stability impact. You could also increase production speed while still improving political stability by organizing units out of just basic infantry armed with light personal weapons instead of standard personal weapons; they'd be of little use for anything but peacekeeping duty, but they would be faster and cheaper to train. Without additional training facilities you'd still be limited to training one formation at a time, though. To break down the numbers a bit: In game mechanics terms, to completely counteract the stability decline right now would require 1000-ish ground policing points. The security battalion you just trained supplies around ten, plus a bonus from one of the CO's skills. You're going to need divisions of troops to completely nullify the stability issues through solely military means, which is simply not feasible with one training facility. Mister Bates fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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Oct 23, 2020 22:11
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Ah, so only armed units can affect Stability? Disappointing, but I suppose we can fluff the lightly armed units as primarily engineers and truck drivers with a small armed guard for protection. Completely nullifying the decline is one thing, but building additional units will slow the decline appropriately (i.e. if we build 100 points of policing stability declines 10% slower)? If so, and if the upkeep costs won't skyrocket I see no reason not to keep the Academy busy churning out Humanitarian Assistance troops unless there is some other unit type we have actual need of.
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Oct 23, 2020 22:29
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Antilles posted:Mister Bates what's the feasibility currently of building enough infantry to arrest the decline of Political Stability? If Logistics and (eventually) Construction units don't count towards this, what about fluffing it as a whole bunch of the cheapest type of infantry? In terms of base game mechanics, political stability decline from radiation will go away on its own before we could even train a 2nd security battalion. In terms of fluff, social services would be better than a police force. Resettle people out of contaminated exclusion zones instead of sending troops in. A Chernobyl-type contaminated area is about 40mi across, which isn't a huge physical area, but is still potentially requiring resettling an entire city of people. Our existing security battalion is a pretty good formation for police duty. Ground units contribute to police strength proportional to sqrt(tonnage) * morale, so a single 100 ton tank is worth more than a single soldier, but 100 tons of soldiers is much better than 100 tons of tank. Effectiveness is also scaled by population size, so we would need a decently large force to patrol Earths 2 billion people. The game doesn't try to model localized problems. Foxfire_ fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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Oct 23, 2020 22:34
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For the hell of it I just tested and a column of 100 completely unarmed Ural trucks actually provides 30 ground policing points, or three times what the security battalion does. It is also about five times more expensive and takes four times longer to build, though. I then used foot-mobile supply teams with light logistics modules, and made a 2500-ton battalion out of them. It provided 8, or almost as much as the security battalions, while taking very slightly less time to train. Also I'm going to try to play through the rest of this year in the next hour or two and get the next update up shortly after. Mister Bates fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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Oct 23, 2020 22:39
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The last thing we need is more "sovereign" nations which engage in heterodox and revisionist takes on Marxism-Leninism. We are a democratic body but as much as possible the Comintern should be the vanguard of the interplanetary proletariat. In fact, as a representative of the Duma, I recommend that all present and future space habitats be entirely governed as subservient to the Comintern, rather than letting future breakaway states crop up and damaging the larger socialist project.
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Oct 23, 2020 22:42
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welfarestateofmind posted:The last thing we need is more "sovereign" nations which engage in heterodox and revisionist takes on Marxism-Leninism. We are a democratic body but as much as possible the Comintern should be the vanguard of the interplanetary proletariat. In fact, as a representative of the Duma, I recommend that all present and future space habitats be entirely governed as subservient to the Comintern, rather than letting future breakaway states crop up and damaging the larger socialist project. Counterpoint from our chief of recruitment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yMy7JuGpJM
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Oct 23, 2020 23:32
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Foxfire_ posted:In terms of fluff, social services would be better than a police force. Resettle people out of contaminated exclusion zones instead of sending troops in. Oh I agree, hence my focus on Logistics and eventually Construction units, which I figure is the closest we'd get mechanically to that kind of support. In any case, for now this is just a "Let's not let the Academy stand idle when every unit helps." suggestion, as I believe constructing new Academies are not a priority right now.
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Oct 23, 2020 23:48
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The California Republic echos the plan to make Luna an industrial center. As well, we welcome the efforts of the Socialist Aid program and offer the wide lands of the west for resettlement. The climate is well-suited for rapid growth, and the Central Valley can supply food to meet the worlds' needs. The only limit is labor.
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First, put this on, because I forgot to put it in the post at the beginning of 1979: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvRHXnb039Q April 1, 1979  As of today, 137 Trans-Newtonian factory complexes have been built and brought online. In accordance with policy, most new construction this year has been in regions adversely effected by war or post-war economic collapse, or underdeveloped due to colonialism. Each new factory is put to work converting more factories, meaning the process of industrial conversion does not merely continue, but is actually accelerating. The completion date does not take into account the build points from factories that don't exist yet, so it will get earlier and earlier with each new factory converted. April 28, 1979  Another scientist, also a rocketry specialist, completes their study at Interkosmos and joins the research faculty. May 1, 1979 Another year, another International Workers' Day. Parades, celebrations, the like. In Lunagrad there's even a small space-suited procession down the city's central avenue, which is now four lanes wide, though still dirt. Leading the procession is a suited figure bearing the proposed, still-unofficial flag of the Lunar Socialist Republic. May 28th, 1979  A second battalion of the People's Army finishes training. Its new commander, Lieutenant Colonel Welfarestateofmind, is an easy choice for the position, with a set of skills and personality traits that make him ideal for deployment in dangerous areas. Interkosmos Academy has also certified him a qualified Xenoarchaeology Technician after he completed an academy course on the Roswell object and its contents. Training for a third battalion will begin immediately, and the second battalion ships out to support member nation forces engaged in humanitarian aid work in the Americas. June 3, 1979 After years of delays, last-minute schedule changes, location changes, and various other issues, the Lucasfilm Cooperative releases its first feature film (the second they produced; the first completed production in the middle of the war and has yet to receive a wide release). 'Star Wars' is an instant worldwide hit, and the Californian press goes wild over it, with the Los Angeles Weekly Worker running a front-page story featuring the film's poster and the title 'HOLLYWOOD'S BACK'. It is particularly popular on the Moon, where three additional cinemas are hastily built by rearranging space in existing communal recreation facilities to keep up with demand. June 22, 1979 The Hawaii Report. The KGB presents its assessment of the Hawaiian space program to select members of the Ministry of Outer Space Affairs and other departments of the Comintern government. The summary is as follows: - Security in and around HRSA itself is extremely high and very little direct information could be obtained without compromising our agents. We know that most, probably nearly all, of their lead scientists are NASA exiles, that they maintain two launch pads and an offshore launch platform built out of a WW2-era US aircraft carrier, and that they are constructing a space station that should be complete sometime in 1980. They are chartered to provide logistical support for the Comintern's MOSA and most of their public-facing activities are in service of that objective, though they also perform satellite launches for various other countries. - Income from the program, in the form of currency payments for satellite launches and payments in goods and raw materials from the Comintern, has caused the Hawaiian economy to begin an unprecedented boom, and there are likely components for more ships already being fabricated, to be used for construction once the orbital is online. - We believe based on import/export numbers that the Hawaiian claim of only having had enough TNEs available to finish one ship at first is truthful, and that they burned through nearly all of their reserves building the two vessels. They have since imported fairly large amounts and have probably largely replenished their stockpiles. - A contact in the Japanese government reports that their own space program has been closely coordinating with the Hawaiians but has no specifics. The contact supplied photographs of Hawaiian and Japanese officials meeting in Tokyo. - Inquiries in the various Polynesian island nations reveal the Hawaiians have, since launch, used the ships to begin a major propaganda push, emphasizing Hawaii as an independent power with a bright future and encouraging their 'brothers and sisters' to join them in shared prosperity. - Unless they are importing large quantities of TNEs in secret or have domestic sources they have concealed, their imports are consistent with an entirely civilian space program, with no indication that they are engaged in weapons development. July 9, 1979 A car bomb destroys the personal vehicle of freelance 'Nazi hunters' Serge and Beate Klarsfeld outside their personal residence in Paris. A note left at the scene calls it revenge for their actions, in particular the kidnapping of two former Nazi officers who they remanded into the custody of the Stasi during the Great Revolutionary War. The note identifies the responsible party as 'Gladio'. No one is injured. July 21, 1979 In 'Operation Sandino', a combined force consisting of elements of the IPA 2nd Security Battalion and the Nicaraguan Army assault and destroy a fortified redoubt of the 'Contra' rebel movement. It is the first combat action in the short history of the People's Army, and is an impressive victory. In the field they swap out the highly visible blue duty uniforms for proper environmentally-appropriate camouflage. August 8, 1979  A cosmonaut named 'Moose Stubblefield' graduates a senior officer training course at Interkosmos Academy, which is of no particular importance, but it's a funny name. hey, slow news year, what can I say August 14, 1979  DagPenge hosts a successful summit with labor leaders from Sub-Saharan Africa that makes him a number of valuable political contacts. August 26, 1979  A third IPA battalion is trained and a fourth begins training. The Third's new CO, Stairmaster, has a lot to prove, having come from an extremely wealthy background prior to the Revolution, but their service during the conflict was exemplary, and they're also very good at what they do. They and their unit are deployed to North America. August 29, 1979 ZERO RAD DAY. For the first time since the initial nuclear detonations of the early war, the average global background radiation count has fallen to levels generally considered to be of no significant health risk. Note that that's average, and there are still areas that are dangerously irradiated - and pedantic scientists are quick to point out that 'no significant health risk' doesn't mean 'normal', and that atmospheric background will take years to truly return to prewar levels. Still, it's a pretty big milestone in the recovery from the war's devastation. September 4, 1979 A preliminary report on the success of the Socialist Aid Program reports high satisfaction with the new housing. Over two million displaced persons have been resettled in the blocky white prefabs now going up around the world. September 13, 1979  An overstressed oxygenator in one of the smaller outlying settlements on the Moon fails, and until it can be fixed the town's 7000 inhabitants are forced to cram into available space elsewhere. The resulting overcrowding creates tension and leads to some minor altercations, although nothing severe as of yet. this is from natural population growth, no new settlers have been shipped here in many months October 14, 1979 Station Six incident. The long roads on the Moon have small automated stations placed at regular intervals, with a little pressurized habitat, recharging and refueling systems, and emergency supplies. Today, a cargo rover approached Station Six, about halfway along the route between Lunagrad and the outlying city of New Aotearoa, for a routine recharge along the route. They found another rover parked there to charge, a road maintenance crew vehicle. Upon disembarking, the crew found the airlock open on both ends, and the facility depressurized. Work crews responsible for building these facilities and extending the road use a number of 'powder-actuated' tools. A powder-actuated tool uses a chemical explosive activated by a primer. A powder-actuated spike driver, used to drive metal spikes into hard rock for use as supports for cables or lights, uses that explosive to drive a projectile down a barrel. Another word for this is 'gun'. One of these is presumably what drove a 14-inch-long alloy steel spike through the EVA helmet faceplate of the rover's driver, and his skull, killing him instantly. His body was inside the airlock. The remaining five members of the crew were dead of decompression, scattered about the inside of the facility. Officially the incident is recorded as an accidental life support failure. Investigators are summoned from Earth to attempt to determine the true cause, beginning the first murder investigation in Lunar history. October 17, 1979 Initial investigation of Station Six finds the word 'GLADIO' written in the regolith next to the structure, an expended cartridge from a powder-actuated tool, and too many footprints and rover tracks to separate them out. The dead workers are identified as Giuseppe and Erika Miozzi of Italy, Anthony Manzano from the Five Nations of Manhattan (the driver), Diljan Halil of Albania, and Qin Hua of the People's Republic of China. All of them are members of the Collettivo Giuseppe Garibaldi, an Italian-speaking collective of a few thousand that occupies a small crater in southern Lunagrad. The Miozzis and Halil were Great Revolutionary War veterans. All were well-liked by their hab-mates and there are no obvious suspects among their immediate acquaintances. The investigation continues. November 15, 1979  Scientist Idhrendur achieves a momentous breakthrough when their team delivers a practical geological sensor suite for spacecraft use. The exploration and extraction of off-world TNE deposits is now feasible. The 5 labs freed up are reallocated to an existing project, Vasilyev's work, rather than being used to immediately start a new one. November 22, 1979 A fourth IPA security battalion is trained, and deployed to France to participate in humanitarian aid efforts in and around the ruins of Amiens. November 27, 1979  The naval shipyards finish expanding their construction capacity. Lacking any explicit direction, the Ministry, on their own initiative, next begins constructing additional slipways at the yards. December 10, 1979 The delegates begin assembling for the 1980 People's Congress, to be held in Santiago, Chile. Delegates from the Moon board the Tranquility for a flight to Earth. December 15, 1979 The 1980 People's Congress officially begins.  Planets   Industry - Earth  Minerals - Earth  Shipyards  Research  THE 1980 LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS NOW OPEN! There is no urgent business requiring an immediate vote. Orders of the Day: - Ships! You've got geosurvey sensors, nuclear thermal engines, and the technology to build very basic, starter-level EM and thermal sensors. The ships you can build will be very mass-inefficient with steel armor, but should still be usable. You can construct military ships up to 3000 void-tons. You can also construct civilian vessels of up to 20,000 void-tons - The status of Luna must be addressed. The local government has requested admission into the Comintern as a full member nation. - Research priorities for the next year. The floor is now open for deliberations and will remain open for ~48 hours before we move on to voting. our next mechanics post will add all the remaining Goons on the list to the game and also finally explain how leaders work. Mister Bates fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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Oct 24, 2020 02:08
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The Lower Georgia United Workers' Front enters the following proposals 1) Survey ships should be our priority. If we assume that our solar system is, for the moment, empty of extraterrestrial threats then there is no reason to wait on weapons or more advanced armor. We should build ships capable of surveying our neighboring worlds for TNEs or anything else of scientific interest. 2) Luna should be recognized as a full member state of the Comintern. We see no reason why our Lunar comrades should not be allowed to self-organize. 3) Some scientific resources should be used to explore the use of TNE-derived technologies for radiation cleanup, and should that prove feasible and carried out, propaganda should be deployed that informs the global proletariat that the Comintern is devoted to preserving Earth's ecosystem.
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Oct 24, 2020 02:32
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The fact that they're a million people crammed into hastily-pressurized caves over a few months as a propaganda stunt, with no local economic base, is a pretty good reason to keep Luna under direct COMINTERN administration for now. I don't necessarily want to commit ourselves to that forever, but the colony's barely even established and surely can't stand on its own yet. Someday it will be able to, but full independence and self-governance is a bit extreme at this current moment.
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Oct 24, 2020 02:44
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I do like the suggestion of developing a survey vessel. In fact, I hereby propose the Solar System Surveying Act, which would authorize the following: 1: The development of a commercial nuclear-thermal engine for use in our survey craft and other vessels. Although a ship carrying active sensors like a geological survey sensor would be classified as a military vessel, the fuel efficiency of a commercial engine is still desirable in this case. 2: The development of basic thermal and EM sensors, just in case. It's unlikely there's anything hidden out there, but the Roswell aliens make me paranoid about it. They don't take up much space, anyway. 3: The design and construction of up to four geological survey vessels, using the previously designed technologies. They must also have facilities and space for supplies to operate up to two years away from Earth at a minimum, while still maintaining a speed above 1000 km/s. I am confident this is achievable. 4: The geological survey of the entire solar system, using those same vessels, starting with its planets and moons before moving onto asteroids and comets.
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Oct 24, 2020 03:12
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Proposal - Surveycraft After completing Construction Rate 12, Dr. Matveyev & their 25 labs (3375RP/year) are tasked with researching: 1) Conventional Composite Armor (250RP, 27 days) 2) Conventional Advanced Composite Armor (375RP, 40 days) 3) Duranium Armor (500RP, 53 days) Then we build surveyors. Those 4 months of research will cut the hull mass enough to either make it about 50% faster, or to triple the sensor package. Proposal - Science Tinkering Assign the preeminent scientist in each field a lab and the freedom to pursue a project of interest when they don't have any other project.  Assemble a crack team of geoscientists to figure out why there are caves on Luna when it has never had freeflowing water or atmosphere  
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Oct 24, 2020 03:12
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The Lunar delegation insists on a full investigation into the meaning of "GLADIO". It may be nothing, a mere copycat killing, and if this is true then the people of Lunagrad will sleep easier in their bunks this designated nocturnal period. But to be clear, if this is more sinister - a coordinated terrorist effort may be underway, with its potential reach over a quarter of a million miles. We cannot afford to ignore this. With regard to scientific research, we suggest working towards asteroid mining; with regard to ships, we support our Georgian comrades in their push toward survey ships. It is the fervent hope of the Lunar delegation that some day soon, humans will embark on such voyages as to make the journey from Lunagrad to Santiago seem like stepping out of one's door in comparison.
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Oct 24, 2020 03:15
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Some questions to Mister Bates (and other knowledgeable comrades) before making a deliberation: If we research and outfit a Construction Unit and transport it to Luna, would it help build up local infrastructure and industry, and if so by approximately how much? Would they need the environment research as well in order to be able to operate on Luna (and eventually Mars)? Supply. Using our current technology as a basis, if we created a survey ship how long would it be able to operate, both time and distance wise? Is it purely a matter of fuel, or is there a materials upkeep as well? Do we have the technology to create supply ships, and if not what are we missing?
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Oct 24, 2020 03:28
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Antilles posted:Some questions to Mister Bates (and other knowledgeable comrades) before making a deliberation: Construction Equipment ground units function exactly the same as Construction Factories except that they require no workers and are more portable. One Construction Factory worth of ground units builds exactly as quickly as one Construction Factory with no cap, so how fast they can build is limited entirely by how many of them we send and how many resources we give them. We will have to either mine minerals on site or ship them to the Moon, but it is worth noting that the minerals required to build, say, a unit of Infrastructure take up a tiny fraction of the cargo space that same unit of Infrastructure would (and there are ways to ship minerals that require no ships at all). As for operating time, there are four factors for a survey ship: fuel, maintenance life, maintenance supply storage, and crew deployment time. Warships often have a fifth concern which is ammunition. Fuel is self-explanatory. Fuel efficiency can be improved significantly with the right techs and with a properly optimized engine design. Maintenance life is roughly how long the ship is designed to operate between shipyard overhauls. The closer the ship gets to its designed maintenance life, the more often its components will fail. You can roll back this time to zero with an overhaul at a shipyard. Components that fail have to be fixed with maintenance supply points or MSP. MSP are produced at Maintenance Facilities. If a ship runs out of them, then when parts break in the field, they stay broken. Finally there's deployment time. Crews need periodic shore leave. The longer a ship's designed deployment time, the more amenities it will have, and the longer the crew can serve on the ship before morale starts to fall (and efficiency with it). Higher deployment time requires more mass for crew quarters. Let's look at a basic-rear end ship design. code:code:
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Oct 24, 2020 03:53
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Crazycryodude posted:The fact that they're a million people crammed into hastily-pressurized caves over a few months as a propaganda stunt, with no local economic base, is a pretty good reason to keep Luna under direct COMINTERN administration for now. I don't necessarily want to commit ourselves to that forever, but the colony's barely even established and surely can't stand on its own yet. Someday it will be able to, but full independence and self-governance is a bit extreme at this current moment. As a refugee from the capitalist hellworld formerly known as New England, I must disagree in part. Not withstanding the fact that this lunar colony relies upon Earth resources to sustain itself, it is still manned by colonists from Earth producing labor in order to turn it into a self sustaining colony. While they may need guidance from Earth to guide the development of the lunar colony, they deserve to have representation in this body that makes these decisions for them. We should also set upon strict but possible conditions for self rule with agreement from the colony, lest we lose them entirely by not acknowledging their concerns and needs.
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Oct 24, 2020 04:08
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The Kalmar Union agrees with the need for survey ships but recommend we limit them initially both in number and operational area, which is to say not beyond Mars. We suggest this limit remain until such time as the research, prototyping and construction of one or more dedicated support ships, providing refueling, maintenance and if necessary rescue services to the survey ships and eventually other ships operating in the outer solar system. We additionally propose a scientific focus towards miniaturizing and mobilizing TNE construction equipment, and the eventual deployment of these mobile units to both assist in the conversion process on earth and to help bootstrap the fledling lunar colonies towards self-reliance. On that note, we feel it too early for full independence for the lunar colonies. A gradual increase in self-governance should be undertaken, both to give the colonies time to stabilize and grow as self-reliant as possible, with concrete measurable goals for when they have fulfilled these criteria and the full support of the Ministry as well as a concrete timetable for these improvements should be decided upon in common between the lunar colonies and Earth. quote:1) No more than 2-3 survey ships to begin with, should focus on the inner solar system for now.
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Oct 24, 2020 04:27
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Crazycryodude posted:The fact that they're a million people crammed into hastily-pressurized caves over a few months as a propaganda stunt, with no local economic base, is a pretty good reason to keep Luna under direct COMINTERN administration for now. I don't necessarily want to commit ourselves to that forever, but the colony's barely even established and surely can't stand on its own yet. Someday it will be able to, but full independence and self-governance is a bit extreme at this current moment. Antilles posted:The Kalmar Union agrees with the need for survey ships but recommend we limit them initially both in number and operational area, which is to say not beyond Mars. We suggest this limit remain until such time as the research, prototyping and construction of one or more dedicated support ships, providing refueling, maintenance and if necessary rescue services to the survey ships and eventually other ships operating in the outer solar system. A survey ship can be made safe enough to justify risking a crew of 50 or so volunteers. Remember, we know there are advanced, militarized aliens out there somewhere and need to be ready in case they come back. Волков бояться -- дров не иметь! More than you ever wanted to know about Aurora maintenance Every 5 days, Aurora checks for a maintenance event by testing against the ship's IFR (increment failure rate). Two things never break at the same time. Maintenance events therefore follow a binomial distribution and the expected value for a year's worth of checks at fixed IFR is IFR * 72 (72 5-day periods per 360 day year). A maintenance event also doesn't mean that something actually breaks/needs fixing. It picks a random internal ship component from a table weighted by component size and applies a strength 2 hit to it. That has a 2 out of the component's HTK (hits-to-kill) chance to destroy it and otherwise does nothing. For example, our existing rocket engine has a HTK of 5, so 3/5 of maintenance events have no impact. If the ship has enough MSP (maintenance supply points), it consumes those to prevent the destruction This still isn't the whole story, since the IFR listed in the ship design is the IFR at 1-year out of maintenance, not the IFR at any specific time. Fresh out of a shipyard or overhaul, a ship has a 0% IFR. It increases linearly with time, reaching the listed value at 1 year, then continuing to increase at that rate. You can keep a ship running indefinitely as long as you keep refilling it with MSP, but the failure rate will keep increasing until a maintenance event is happening basically every 5 days, so it's not worth it as some point. A ship design's IFR depends on its size and what percent is engineering. Big ships are inherently less reliable than small ships. The maintenance life number on the class design is supposed to be expected time to run out of maintenance supplies, I suspect it's just from some rule-of-thumb since the actual process is messy. Foxfire_ fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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Oct 24, 2020 04:52
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Foxfire_ posted:They're self sustaining already in terms of things like food, water, power, consumer goods etc. They don't have heavy industry, but don't need supply flights to live. The Luna's 2500 ton cargo capacity wouldn't be enough to support a million+ people anyway, even with short travel times. Weird that they're self-sustaining, but ok. Presumably they wouldn't be able to actually grow without support from Earth? Does Luna even create anything at the moment, presumably aside from Wealth from its citizens? Foxfire_ posted:A survey ship can be made safe enough to justify risking a crew of 50 or so volunteers. Remember, we know there are advanced, militarized aliens out there somewhere and need to be ready in case they come back. Волков бояться -- дров не иметь! They might not be hostile towards us? Maybe? Hope springs eternal? In any case, without a space navy to talk of it's too early to worry about that, I think getting the infrastructure in place now to support and facilitate future exploration and eventual colonization should have a high priority.
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Oct 24, 2020 05:48
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Antilles posted:Weird that they're self-sustaining, but ok. Presumably they wouldn't be able to actually grow without support from Earth? Does Luna even create anything at the moment, presumably aside from Wealth from its citizens? They're self-sustaining in the sense that the current population is capable of producing enough basic goods locally to not starve or asphyxiate, but are just barely able to produce enough additional life support infrastructure locally to keep up with natural population growth, so in practice will still need quite a bit of support from Earth. At the moment the only goods Luna creates, not counting the 15% of the population working in agriculture or operating critical life support infrastructure, are 2.4 Infrastructure per year, which is enough to increase its population capacity by 12,000 or so per year. This means that the slight overcrowding Luna is currently experiencing will eventually resolve itself, as local production increases the life support capacity just enough to make up for the new births, but that also means it'll take current local production 100 years to bring the pop cap up to two million. In short, the Moon settlement can survive without Earth if it had to, but it can't grow significantly without Earth. In terms of supply flights, the freighter Luna has actually been idling in Earth orbit for months, because the only thing the settlement really needs that Earth can supply right now is life support infrastructure, and at the moment the resources that would be spent on that are being spent producing Socialist Aid Program housing. They're not reliant on food shipments and the colony isn't large enough for there to be a significant demand for consumer goods, beyond what they can produce locally with light industry. Mister Bates fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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Oct 24, 2020 06:34
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Even if we limit our surveys to the inner part of the system, we should survey the asteroid belt now.
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Oct 24, 2020 06:35
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New Afrika wholeheartedly endorses the ascension to the brotherhood of nations that of the people of Luna. We would also like to take this chance to propose that Luna be the model for which future colonies of humankind be treated, with the threshold for recognition as a nation and full member of the Internationale for colonies being 1 million inhabitants. Further, New Afrika suggests that Geological Surveys of our system must focus on the Luna and Mars first, then the Asteroid Belt. As of now, Venus and Mercury are not worth it. In a bit of purely moralistic theater, New Afrika also suggests that the first FTL capable exploration ships built by humanity should be named the Tsiolkovsky class, with ships named after famous rocket scientists and astrologers, such as Robert Goddard, Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, and Hermann Oberth. New Afrika would also like to propose a ban on the construction of spacefaring warships until a threat to humanity and the Internationale is encountered. Defensive armament is perfectly fine, but we must do all we can to avoid spreading war to the cosmos. While it is unlikely that all intelligent life will be good socialists, we can at least hope that they will not be xenophobic, and that the horrors of the so called Age of Exploration can not be repeated. Fivemarks fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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Oct 24, 2020 06:54
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Mister Bates posted:At the moment the only goods Luna creates, not counting the 15% of the population working in agriculture or operating critical life support infrastructure, are 2.4 Infrastructure per year, which is enough to increase its population capacity by 12,000 or so per year. This means that the slight overcrowding Luna is currently experiencing will eventually resolve itself, as local production increases the life support capacity just enough to make up for the new births, but that also means it'll take current local production 100 years to bring the pop cap up to two million. Huh, so this 'innate' Infrastructure growth doesn't require any mineral resources? Or is it assumed to be done with 'mundane' metals and resources that are currently being mined and processed, but not relevant enough to the overall efforts to be noted on the status screen (it only shows the TNE resources since they're the real bottleneck)?
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The Kalmar Union agrees with their New Afrika comrades that while some day we may be forced to turn our energies back to war, that time is not now. We will go even further and suggest that the following be made into a fundamental principle of MOSA, Comintern, and hopefully the human race as a whole, that come what may, humanity will not fire the first shot. Peace should always be our first and strongest instinct, so that we may ever avoid such bloodshed and horror as we are still recovering from.
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