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We've somehow been missing a thread on the longest run sci-fi tv series in the world, and I've recently started catching up from where I left off, so here's a low effort thread about Doctor Who. I left off after Angels Take Manhatten, so I've still got a little bit of Matt Smith left to go before I hit Peter Capaldi. It's enjoyable enough, and I'm more fond of Matt Smith's portrayal than I remember being at the time. Clara just seems to be kinda there for now. Feels like most of her character is invested in being a mystery box so far. Also this scene was amazing 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsAVx0u9Cw4
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Jan 22, 2021 16:40
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Doctor Whom
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Jan 22, 2021 17:56
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The last episode I watched was "Midnight" which was really great! Better than I remember even. Like a one room play or a twilight zine kinda show. Great acting, great use /of/ acting as a confusing device for an alien understanding. Two episodes later I'm watching donna noble with a bug on her back and I'm back out again!
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Jan 23, 2021 02:40
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The back-bug episode slaps, both for the scenes where Catherine Tate is forced to pretend that a clearly static plastic prop is clinging to her, and for the overt commentary on racist British society.
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Jan 23, 2021 14:54
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RBA Starblade posted:Doctor Whom dr. who
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Jan 23, 2021 20:25
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I would like to thank OP for making a thread where I can make this joke. Ahem. Doctor Poo
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Jan 23, 2021 22:55
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Who What Now posted:I would like to thank OP for making a thread where I can make this joke. all my golden fivebabies, are now yours
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Jan 23, 2021 23:57
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Ric Flair, kicking open the door of the TARDIS, attired in what you might expect of either him or the titular role. I present to you: Dr. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
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Jan 24, 2021 03:46
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For the last few years, my wife and I take edibles and then watch a classic episode before bed. We are just about done with #5's first season. Old Doctor Who is so chill.
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Jan 25, 2021 23:51
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I had started watching all of Doctor Who from the beginning for whatever reason in the middle of last year but (as with most things) petered off again. The actual production history behind early Doctor Who tends to be better than the episodes themselves lol
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Jan 26, 2021 04:25
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I wanted every single PBS telethon Dr. Who goodies.
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Jan 26, 2021 11:35
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josh04 posted:The back-bug episode slaps, both for the scenes where Catherine Tate is forced to pretend that a clearly static plastic prop is clinging to her, and for the overt commentary on racist British society. Was that commentary? The exotic evil alien planet that is just Chinatown? I turned it off halfway lol
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Jan 26, 2021 18:57
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Oh god no, not that. Over halfway through the episode Britain descends into a racist post-apocalypse state after London gets space-nuked and there's a scene where all the non-white characters are rounded up by the army.
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Jan 26, 2021 19:15
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FunkyAl posted:Was that commentary? The exotic evil alien planet that is just Chinatown? I turned it off halfway lol Also that episode gets brownie points for literally taking all of the plots of Doctor Who episodes up to that point and saying "ok so the Doctor's not there, so what happens to Earth?" and basically showing the decline from a ground-level perspective. For such a garish, camp aesthetic the RTD folk could slap surprisingly hard when they wanted, and if you can look past the 00s candy-color cringe they've aged well. It's hard to look past though. My girlfriend and I use Doctor Who to goof off and unwind, where we can talk while watching something, and she had a blast slamming Catherine Tate's fashion. Roth posted:I left off after Angels Take Manhatten, so I've still got a little bit of Matt Smith left to go before I hit Peter Capaldi. It's enjoyable enough, and I'm more fond of Matt Smith's portrayal than I remember being at the time. Clara just seems to be kinda there for now. Feels like most of her character is invested in being a mystery box so far. Capaldi's era is also aging well. I felt it was mostly hot garbage in the first half but it finds a groove and it has some of the best Cybermen-- yes the loving Cybermen-- stories the show ever did. It helps when you realize that Capaldi-era productions and acting were, by Doctor Who standards, a lot more subtle and understated than the Smith/Tennant stuff ever was.
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Jan 27, 2021 03:13
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mind the walrus posted:They round up Italian immigrants to a genocide camp in order to protect the borders and it's way, way better than it has any right to be thanks to older character actors selling the gently caress out of it. At his best, I have no idea what tone Russel T Davies is going for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbb56jZo0rE What the hell was this????
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Jan 27, 2021 04:52
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Yeah RTD had lots of nadirs and the camp was pretty awful. I honestly felt bad for John Simms and was happy that Moffat gave him a proper story to flex in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBIpFAZPpAg
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Jan 28, 2021 08:02
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mind the walrus posted:Yeah RTD had lots of nadirs and the camp was pretty awful. I honestly felt bad for John Simms and was happy that Moffat gave him a proper story to flex in: I will say, it was great when simm ate the sandwich really fast. RTD gave us that.
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Jan 28, 2021 16:28
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mind the walrus posted:Also that episode gets brownie points for literally taking all of the plots of Doctor Who episodes up to that point and saying "ok so the Doctor's not there, so what happens to Earth?" and basically showing the decline from a ground-level perspective. Whoa, the current state of our planet seems to be a fixed point in time and the Doctor cannot help then...
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Mar 24, 2021 14:38
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Everybody loves Doc Who, but nobody wants to see Doc How.
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Mar 24, 2021 22:00
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Who What Now posted:I would like to thank OP for making a thread where I can make this joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiCcp4Jk-34
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Mar 25, 2021 00:07
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More like Dr......who gives a poo poo *Unreal Tournament guy voice* HOLY-poo poo!!!!
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Mar 25, 2021 07:44
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RBA Starblade posted:Doctor Whom WHOMST
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Mar 25, 2021 09:08
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Roth, quit while you are ahead. It really takes a nose dive from Peter Capaldi onward, especially after Chris Chibnall takes over as head writer.
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Mar 25, 2021 10:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saWmQ1-dz64 You ARE the weakest link
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Mar 25, 2021 17:03
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baalaagaa posted:Roth, quit while you are ahead. I feel so bad for Jodie Whittaker too. She's a great cast and clearly trying, and already fighting an uphill battle against stubborn fans who hate new Doctors on principle, much less a g-g-g-g-girl.... and they saddle her with loving Chin-ball scripts. It's not fair and I don't blame the rumors that she's looking to gtfo ASAP. Say what you will about Moffat, but if they gave Whittaker the script for "Silence in the Library" or "Heaven Sent" I think she would be considered an all-timer instead of now, where she's basically an also-ran.
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Mar 26, 2021 11:42
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mind the walrus posted:I feel so bad for Jodie Whittaker too. She's a great cast and clearly trying, and already fighting an uphill battle against stubborn fans who hate new Doctors on principle, much less a g-g-g-g-girl.... and they saddle her with loving Chin-ball scripts. It's not fair and I don't blame the rumors that she's looking to gtfo ASAP. The one episode I saw of this iteration, it seemed like The Master was doing most of the Doctor Who monologuing and saving things than the Doctor was
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Mar 26, 2021 16:05
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mind the walrus posted:I feel so bad for Jodie Whittaker too. She's a great cast and clearly trying, and already fighting an uphill battle against stubborn fans who hate new Doctors on principle, much less a g-g-g-g-girl.... and they saddle her with loving Chin-ball scripts. It's not fair and I don't blame the rumors that she's looking to gtfo ASAP. It makes more sense when you realize that Chibnall cares less about telling a good story with memorable characters, and more about leaving a lasting (if not indelible) mark on DW history. It was his idea to cast Jodie as the first female Doctor, to cast a Master as played by a person of color (e: and I should add that neither of these are bad ideas at all on their own merits, to be sure), and now the Timeless Child nonsense. He wants to be seen in the same light as classic series producers and writers like Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks, or Philip Hinchcliffe and Robert Holmes, but instead he's making the John Nathan-Turner and Eric Saward era look good by comparison, he is just that bad. Sydney Bottocks fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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Mar 26, 2021 22:21
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The sad thing is that the Timeless Child crap could be good in a marketing sense-- it could actually free up the Doctor from a lot of franchise orthodoxy and allow for a lots of "playaround"-- no longer worrying about making the timeline have perfect sense and using "Timeless Child" as a handwave; having miniseries or one-off episodes that let them try out new Doctor/Companion dynamics, give the lead actors/companions a production break, allow one-offs or miniseries with actors who would otherwise never have the time to play the Doctor but wanted to; maybe see if these "guest Doctors" grow on people and branch out the franchise, etc. Like that makes a lot of sense for where the franchise could go. But the way it's been done... it's just the worst kind-of writing.
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Mar 27, 2021 01:21
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I'd love it if Doctor Who looked as cheap as possible and was shot like, handheld on a mirrorless camera. Grimy Video is good for this particular franchise
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Mar 27, 2021 03:55
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Dr. Who went to poo poo after Luke Perry died and the hot blonde left.
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Apr 8, 2021 19:03
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I realized the other day that Daleks are really similar 40k Space Marine. A genius on a war torn planet invents a mutant super soldiers incased in suit of power armor. These super soldiers go into space to conquer and exterminate any life they see as inferior. Some of the soldiers inevitably turn on their genius creator. A lot of this probably just comes from them both being space fascists FunkyAl posted:I'd love it if Doctor Who looked as cheap as possible and was shot like, handheld on a mirrorless camera. Grimy Video is good for this particular franchise Christopher Eccleston's season was the best of the revival because I don't even think they even recorded it on film. Also, I love that he's open that he's recording audio dramas as the Doctor now because "it's paid work."
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Apr 11, 2021 04:17
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mind the walrus posted:The sad thing is that the Timeless Child crap could be good in a marketing sense-- it could actually free up the Doctor from a lot of franchise orthodoxy and allow for a lots of "playaround"-- no longer worrying about making the timeline have perfect sense and using "Timeless Child" as a handwave; having miniseries or one-off episodes that let them try out new Doctor/Companion dynamics, give the lead actors/companions a production break, allow one-offs or miniseries with actors who would otherwise never have the time to play the Doctor but wanted to; maybe see if these "guest Doctors" grow on people and branch out the franchise, etc. I know I'll sound like one of those "Back in my day..." types, but, take a classic episode like Brain of Morbius. Yeah, a lot of folks remember the bit at the end where Tom Baker gets into a psychic duel, and, *gasp* there were Doctors before Hartnell! Impossible! The whole four episode sequence builds to this point, with gradually increasing intensity (including some nice structural bits where each cliffhanger has Sarah-Jane being attacked by a different incarnation of Morbius), and then it's over. What's the next story? What's the follow up to this amazing revelation? gently caress all. We instead get Seeds of Doom, which, is also great, but couldn't give a poo poo about continuity or trivia. Part of what made the old show so good was that there was no big overarching thing it was moving towards. Even when they tried it with the Key to Time season, some of the writers used it as a opportunity to take the piss out of those "assemble the macguffin" type stories, and the others just tacked on a little bit at the beginning and end. It would be much worse if the White and Black Guardians were popping up every little bit to torment the Doctor and Romana. And even during RTD's run, the episodes themselves worked as episodes, not as endless foreshadowing to some bigger, better story, that they swear is coming. We saw bits of this "we swear there's a bigger story running through this" under John Nathan-Turner and Eric Saward, and, well... Here's the fans back in 1986: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkCe3owO7wY
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Apr 20, 2021 05:42
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Yeah it was a nice shift out of the 90s where most genre television really held continuity and ambitious storytelling in contempt, but I do think that 20+ years of Whedon's precedent + DVD/DVR/Streaming formats encouraging binge-watching that most writers really need to reacquaint themselves with the basic arc of telling a straightforward story.
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Apr 23, 2021 01:41
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Atrocious Joe posted:Christopher Eccleston's season was the best of the revival because I don't even think they even recorded it on film. Eccleston is doing anything Doctor Who related? I was under the impression he hated his experience, and for good reason too.
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May 1, 2021 13:57
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Zesty posted:Eccleston is doing anything Doctor Who related? I was under the impression he hated his experience, and for good reason too. Yeah he's doing some Radio Dramas and when asked about it for an interview he said was literally: quote:“What convinces a bricklayer to build a wall? What convinces a plumber to plumb? What convinces you to do your job?” Eccleston said when asked of the reasons behind his long-awaited return while speaking to gathered press over the phone in-between recording sessions in February. “First of all, I know it’s not a fashionable thing to do because we’re all English, we don’t talk about these things, but I’m an actor and the way I pay my mortgage and support my children, Albert and Esme, is by acting. So, it’s paid work. First and foremost. It’s what I do my job for. Secondly, as I’ve always said, I have a great love for the character. I’ve always said that. And the quality of the scripts.” https://io9.gizmodo.com/doctor-whos-christopher-eccleston-on-why-now-is-the-tim-1846556742 Honestly-- loving props. Go off Eccleston.
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May 2, 2021 00:21
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I thought more than him hating the job, the showrunners hated him way more for prioritizing other things over being Doctor Who. Which also explains how the show had a real ego problem sometimes.
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May 2, 2021 05:18
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Eccleston was such a great doctor, I'm glad he's dipping a toe back into it and taking them to the cleaners in the process god willing.
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May 4, 2021 22:43
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SlothfulCobra posted:I thought more than him hating the job, the showrunners hated him way more for prioritizing other things over being Doctor Who. Given how RTD apparently tolerated inappropriate behavior from Barrowman (and it wouldn't surprise me if he turned a blind eye towards Noel Clarke, either), and how Moffat's just a sexist piece of crap in general, I feel pretty OK in not liking most of what they produced during their runs on DW. I don't care for Chibnall's current run, either, but at least so far nothing's come out about him being a horrible boss or a sex pest (yet).
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How many legitimate or illegitimate children has the doctor fathered/mothered
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