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It has recently come to light that, during the 2009-2010 season, a video coach for the Chicago Blackhawks attempted to sexually assault at least two of the players. It appears that not only did all the players know, but management too. Since this could be a steady story throughout the offseason and coming season, I figure it could use its own thread so it doesn't get mixed in with all the trades.quote:Alleged assaults of Blackhawks players ‘an open secret’: source https://twitter.com/KatieJStrang/status/1408402257213800449 https://twitter.com/TSNHockey/status/1408866479831924737
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 02:28 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 02:44 |
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Very hosed up.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 02:33 |
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I would rather have my favorite teams lose every game between now and the heat death of the universe than be in league with pedophiles and sexual predators. gently caress the Blackhawks until they own up, apologize, and clean house.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 02:34 |
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deoju posted:I would rather have my favorite teams lose every game between now and the heat death of the universe than be in league with pedophiles and sexual predators. gently caress the Blackhawks until they own up, apologize, and clean house. How much of the Blackhawks' current management is the same as back then, and how many others are still in the league? If this is something that team management knew about at the time, I can't imagine it being acceptable that any of them stay in the league.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 02:50 |
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The NHL's strategy right now is clearly "ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist, hopefully pay off the complainants to keep quiet, and wait for it to go away"
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:05 |
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Hand Knit posted:How much of the Blackhawks' current management is the same as back then, and how many others are still in the league? If this is something that team management knew about at the time, I can't imagine it being acceptable that any of them stay in the league. Well, judging by this, a lot of names still in the league.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:06 |
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They could at least forge a new plate and take his and those who protected him's names off the loving Cup
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:08 |
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The fact that Bowman has a job even a half hour after that report is extremely hosed.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:09 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:The NHL's strategy right now is clearly "ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist, hopefully pay off the complainants to keep quiet, and wait for it to go away" yep quote:NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly was quoted in a story published Friday by The Athletic that the NHL had been in contact with the Blackhawks but that no investigation was underway. Daly did not respond to a question about what it would take to trigger an investigation, the website reported. This makes the NHL complicit in the coverup too, it's scumbags all the way to the top. They'll sigh a little bit, write a big check, and nothing meaningful happens.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:33 |
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gently caress all of these assholes.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:36 |
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So exactly the way they've handled CTE, is what you're saying
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:37 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:So exactly the way they've handled CTE, is what you're saying It is loving disgusting, but absolutely. The NHL is probably going to handle this worse than Penn State.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:46 |
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Bettman's state of the league happens right before the finals, hopefully there are going to be a bunch of questions on this
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:52 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:They could at least forge a new plate and take his and those who protected him's names off the loving Cup There is precedence for x'ing over a name on the Stanley Cup, that's been done before.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:54 |
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AsInHowe posted:
Hmmmmm, I'm seeing a lot of names that need to come off that thing all of a sudden
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 03:59 |
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Just read The Athletic article about this and just.... jesus christ.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 04:33 |
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AsInHowe posted:There is precedence for x'ing over a name on the Stanley Cup, that's been done before. Isn't that while thing managed by someone who is not the NHL? E.g. they could do it on their own
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 04:42 |
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Scaramouche posted:Isn't that while thing managed by someone who is not the NHL? E.g. they could do it on their own Officially, it's managed by the Hockey Hall of Fame. It's why the HHOF logo is on the bottom of the Cup.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 04:47 |
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31 Thoughts with Elliotte Friedman and Jeff Marek dropped an emergency podcast this morning about this issue.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 12:54 |
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If the league is going to do anything (they won’t) it would happen after the Cup final. They don’t want the negative publicity affecting those ratings.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 13:11 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:The NHL's strategy right now is clearly "ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist, hopefully pay off the complainants to keep quiet, and wait for it to go away" Knowing them, they'll award the a Blackhawks compensatory draft pick or something because Chicago.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 15:00 |
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Bergevin (was director of pro personnel) claims he wasn't a part of the meeting and didn't know anything (ya right). Cheveldayoff has not responded to anything yet (he was assistant GM at the time)
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 15:32 |
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Who does the video coach typically report to?
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 15:40 |
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Things are in motion https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/1409233173314211844
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 20:35 |
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loving good
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 21:07 |
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Was this guy the son of a famous hockey guy or something, I’d imagine normally a video coach would get fired for accidentally scratching the star players Audi in the car park as opposed to the team covering up for them. I’d expect this poo poo from the NHL but more in lovely protection of the owner or star players, not a fairly replaceable junior level coach.
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# ? Jun 27, 2021 23:27 |
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I'm guessing that the coach targeted rookies/young/marginal players who were less likely to (feel like they could) speak out, though who knows. The two worst similar offenders I can think were in junior hockey (David Frost and Graham James).
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# ? Jun 28, 2021 00:41 |
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eXXon posted:I'm guessing that the coach targeted rookies/young/marginal players who were less likely to (feel like they could) speak out, though who knows. The two worst similar offenders I can think were in junior hockey (David Frost and Graham James). It seems like at least one of the incidents happened at a party during the playoffs so i would guess it was a "black ace" who felt they couldn't rock the boat but honestly, it doesn't matter, everyone involved needs to be gone yesterday e: good lord: https://twitter.com/CarBombBoom13/status/1409196080005275650?s=20 clean ayers act fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jun 28, 2021 |
# ? Jun 28, 2021 01:21 |
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I can't escape the feeling that the elephant in the room everyone is awkwardly in tacit agreement not to notice or comment on is Quenneville.
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# ? Jun 28, 2021 01:41 |
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I hesitate to link to a deadspin article but it popped up in my news feed and though it takes a while to get there, I think this does a fair job putting a context around things. https://deadspin.com/this-is-what-the-blackhawks-have-always-been-1847182140 I don't really buy the "we're scared of not looking like geniuses" angle but the idea that the Blackhawks feel all they money they've made the league makes them invincible is plausible. And how Bettman won't hand out any punishment is the lovely reality of where this will go.
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# ? Jun 28, 2021 15:57 |
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whoops https://mobile.twitter.com/KatieJStrang/status/1409534498312802315
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# ? Jun 28, 2021 16:44 |
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https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1409629903423672322?s=19 Fold the franchise.
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# ? Jun 28, 2021 22:53 |
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https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1409632354377732101 oh, word?
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# ? Jun 28, 2021 23:01 |
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I'm going to guess that's a pretty liberal use of "relatively recently"
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# ? Jun 28, 2021 23:30 |
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Mike_V posted:I'm going to guess that's a pretty liberal use of "relatively recently" Within the last 50 years.
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 02:25 |
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VOTE1 posted:Was this guy the son of a famous hockey guy or something, I’d imagine normally a video coach would get fired for accidentally scratching the star players Audi in the car park as opposed to the team covering up for them. Nope. Not a former player or coach either. He got his first job interning as a video coach for the Sharks. How he managed to land that gig I dunno. Maybe he has some sort of amateur hockey background. As far as I can tell he's never played at any high level.
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 03:09 |
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That's the mind boggling thing, this coach is a complete nobody. I imagine video coaches elsewhere get fired for less
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 05:04 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:That's the mind boggling thing, this coach is a complete nobody. I imagine video coaches elsewhere get fired for less The Red Wings video coach has always been Some Guy, usually a stepping stone to another coach position. Most memorably, Joe Kocur was the video coach after he retired, producing the most memorable moment in Red Wings video coach history. https://youtu.be/iRzVQIg5V4w Also, very apt given the situation!
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 06:28 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:That's the mind boggling thing, this coach is a complete nobody. I imagine video coaches elsewhere get fired for less Wow ok, to be honest the only explanation that makes any sense to me is that they don't want to open the floodgates, given the abuse stories from junior hockey it isn't too hard to believe. I work in politics, another really lovely industry from a HR/morals standpoint, and when something is covered up its almost always because either A) offender is a important guy, or B) a domino effect that will ruin (usually deservingly) many others.
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 11:55 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 02:44 |
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I know the NHL is paying you guys to bury this story but I will continue to be a thorn in the side of management: https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/ro...-160028371.html So some people weren't super happy with Maclean's softball interview with Bettman, which is good. Keep up the pressure. I wonder if people could demand to know if not talking about it was condition of the interview from good old Ron.
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