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AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Scaramouche posted:

I know the NHL is paying you guys to bury this story but I will continue to be a thorn in the side of management:
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/ro...-160028371.html


So some people weren't super happy with Maclean's softball interview with Bettman, which is good. Keep up the pressure. I wonder if people could demand to know if not talking about it was condition of the interview from good old Ron.

https://kencampbell.substack.com/p/why-ron-maclean-didnt-ask-gary-bettman

“This wasn't one of those, ‘Ron’s been told certain topics are off limits,’ ” MacLean told Hockey Unfiltered in an emailed response Tuesday. “There were no restrictions. The Chicago story is a vitally important story, but Gary Bettman had answered the key questions to which he can, at this point, speak. There’s an investigation which works as a barrier. In a noisy rink with only five minutes, it just seemed to me the wrong place to attempt an overarching conversation, knowing the investigation would prevent speculation or oversight considerations, or anything really. The for-the-record response was going to remain, ‘Can’t address those questions while there is an investigation.’ So I chose different line for the time being.”

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I believe that answer, but I think keeping the topic in the headlines is more important. It's too easy for the team and NHL to ride it out if no one's talking about it.

He should have at least asked and gotten the canned response.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
lol, it was one million percent communicated to Maclean's bosses that the topic is off limits.

Damage-control PR appears to be the sole thing the NHL office does competently, and they're following the smart prescription of "say nothing, make it known to your media partners that it's in their own financial best interests to also say nothing, keep saying nothing until the lawyers can negotiate a settlement that includes a gag order so we can pretend it never happened."

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

This is sickening and there's absolutely nothing funny about it.

Except

AsInHowe posted:

an emergency podcast

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


I don’t fault a team for choosing not to answer questions about an incident while an investigation is underway but yeah they should’ve given the canned response. I’m more interested in the leaks that will eventually come and if they name names.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
University of Miami on Ohio, where Aldrich went after the Blackhawks, are now acknowledging two accusations against him. Reading the article, one of the players did report what happened to another coach, who of course blamed the player.

https://twitter.com/tonyjarnold/status/1413466804677222401

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Can't believe Ben Roethlisberger's alma mater would ever hire a sexual predator like that, shocked and appalled

whatis
Jun 6, 2012

Hand Knit posted:

University of Miami on Ohio, where Aldrich went after the Blackhawks, are now acknowledging two accusations against him. Reading the article, one of the players did report what happened to another coach, who of course blamed the player.

https://twitter.com/tonyjarnold/status/1413466804677222401

this story is going to get worse and worse every step of the way

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

whatis posted:

this story is going to get worse and worse every step of the way

https://twitter.com/BenPopeCST/status/1413594846082834435
https://twitter.com/BenPopeCST/status/1413616510870986756

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Horrific

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Love me a good pedant's argument.

Spelling Mitsake
Oct 4, 2007

Clutch Cargo wishes they had Tractor.
Since when is this my job? What am I, the Molester Police? Keep your heads up kids, don't get molested jeez.

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whatis
Jun 6, 2012
https://mobile.twitter.com/BenPopeCST/status/1413643641843765251

Koth
Jul 1, 2005
Jesus. gently caress the Blackhawks management and their lawyers.

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010


Lmao, dumpster fire of an org.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
I don't speak legal but here's the Blackhawks motion to dismiss the lawsuit specifically in relation to the high school player assaulted by Aldrich in 2013:

https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/1414679313866272777

clean ayers act
Aug 13, 2007

How do I shot puck!?
https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/1415370596721037315?s=20
:magemage:

lomzus
Mar 18, 2009
https://twitter.com/TSNHockey/status/1415079047785328649

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Quenneville is going to burn for this, as he drat well should.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


You would think, but the league is already circling the wagons and will protect him.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Eric the Mauve posted:

Quenneville is going to burn for this, as he drat well should.

A lot of people should burn for this

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Chicago Tribune has a longer piece detailing the stonewalling by Blackhawks lawyers:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/blackhawks/ct-chicago-blackhawks-lawsuit-20210715-su43s36blrgyhjzklotbinquby-story.html

It reads to me like Illinois state law is loving things up real good.

whatis
Jun 6, 2012
Chevy made a statement

https://twitter.com/TSNHockey/status/1418293371265855490

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

Not knowing that there was sexual assault occurring in your organization isn't exonerating, it's indicative that you and you management brethren created a toxic environment where you were willfully blind to the abuse of the people you were supposed to have responsibility for. This is what happens when you let hockey people run a business.

**this was posted by bub spank in the news/views thread, I figured I would cross reference it for posterity.

https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/1418320921992089600

Just more evidence of a rotten culture. But I'm sure Joel Quenneville had no idea this stuff was going on during his practices and in his locker room. Amazing how those other players found about about this private matter which was being handled sensitively by Chicago management.

Starsfan fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jul 22, 2021

St. Dogbert
Mar 17, 2011
If I were in charge, I would change the law to state that if you know about someone committing sexual assault on another person, you choose of your own volition not to report it to police, and it can be proven that you knew about it, you are guilty of aiding and abetting not only that sexual assault, but also every subsequent assault the offender commits until they’re caught.

The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line
https://twitter.com/benpopecst/status/1418325746884431873?s=21

There’s always more, and it’s always worse

Spelling Mitsake
Oct 4, 2007

Clutch Cargo wishes they had Tractor.
Jesus that's some horrible poo poo.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


holy poo poo :stare:

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

This is so upsetting. Further down it talks about how the victim was subject to years of harassment in practices and team meetings with the endorsement if not participation of the coaching staff.

Hopefully that rat Joel Quenneville and his assistants get called to account. The so called leaders on the team too - Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith need to answer for this. I'm foolish for hoping anything from the local Edmonton media but they need to confront Duncan Keith about this poo poo.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Blackhawks management: "yeah this is clearly a crime, open and shut. but let's cover it up and protect this dirtbag."

I wish we lived in a reality where they'd get sent to jail over this.

St. Dogbert
Mar 17, 2011
Another thing - they probably shouldn’t be publicly disclosing some of the details in the lawsuit. Some of them all but outright tell you who the plaintiff is.

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.
I would like it if Joel Quenneville was no longer employed.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Not that it makes a difference, but is it looking like the victim was a fringe guy or one of the Big Names?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Pungry posted:

I would like it if Joel Quenneville was no longer employed.

Don't know why anyone should be singled out, everyone in the organization at that time is complicit.

All it would have taken is one person to speak out and not a single one did.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Yes and none of them should be permitted to work anywhere near anything remotely resembling sports ever again

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.
Yeah, what Eric said. Just because Q is with the Panthers now doesn't change the fact that he Joe Paterno'd this one, and should be fired. And so should the rest.

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.

The Dirty Burger posted:


There’s always more, and it’s always worse

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

quote:

Hawks skills coach James Gary later convinced Doe 1 he was responsible for the incident, according to the lawsuit, even as Aldrich allegedly continued to “send harassing texts” to Doe 1 asking him to “come over.”

Holy gently caress. Gary was the team psychologist.

Absolute scum.

Gerblederp
Dec 4, 2009

Imprison the whole org.

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lomzus
Mar 18, 2009
https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/1418347477686702084

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