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I have been tasked to use my expertise on the NFL to rank the Quarterbacks for this upcoming season. I am far better at this than Chris Simms or Dan Orlovsky and can prove it by pointing out that I never left an NFL game because my spleen hurt, and I also never ran out of the back of an endzone during an NFL game. These are facts I can prove. We all know that QBs are the most important player, and contrary to popular belief, are indeed the best. If you do not have one of the good ones you suck. I don't care how good your defense is or how good your receivers are. Look at Denver. I am going to rank the 32 starting QBs this year going into september. Rookies will all be at the bottom and I don't care if you don't think they should be, so shut up. In cases where we do not know who the starting QB will be, I will pick the veteran or incumbent from last year. This is my list. Here we go. 1. Patrick Mahomes - Kansas City 2. Aaron Rodgers - Green Bay 3. Russell Wilson - Seattle 4. Lamar Jackson - Baltimore 5. Tom Brady - Tampa Bay 6. Josh Allen - Buffalo 7. Matt Stafford - Los Angeles Rams 8. Deshaun Watson - Houston 9. Justin Herbert - Los Angeles Chargers 10. Dak Prescott - Dallas 11. Ryan Tannehill - Tennessee 12. Baker Mayfield - Cleveland 13. Kirk Cousins - Minnesota 14. Derek Carr - Las Vegas 15. Kyler Murray - Arizona 16. Joe Burrow - Cincinnati 17. Ryan Fitzpatrick - Washington 18. Matt Ryan - Atlanta 19. Andy Dalton - Chicago 20. Tua Tagovailoa - Miami 21. Jimmy Garapalo - San Francisco 22. Jameis Winston - New Orleans 23. Ben Roethlisberger - Pittsburgh 24. Drew Lock - Denver 25. Daniel Jones - New York Giants 26. Jared Goff - Detroit 27. Cam Newton - New England 28. Jalen Hurts - Philadelphia 29. Sam Darnold - Carolina 30. Jacob Eason (?????) - Indianapolis 31. Trevor Lawrence - Jacksonville 32. Zach Wilson - New York Jets
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 04:34 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 11:51 |
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Good list Ross
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 04:40 |
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Thank you I put a lot of thought into it
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 04:41 |
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Flip carr and Murray so I can say the carrbage line tia
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 04:52 |
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Commenting on the rankings. NOT an argument. Simple comments.a neat cape posted:1. Patrick Mahomes - Kansas City a neat cape posted:2. Aaron Rodgers - Green Bay a neat cape posted:3. Russell Wilson - Seattle a neat cape posted:4. Lamar Jackson - Baltimore a neat cape posted:5. Tom Brady - Tampa Bay a neat cape posted:6. Josh Allen - Buffalo a neat cape posted:7. Matt Stafford - Los Angeles Rams a neat cape posted:8. Deshaun Watson - Houston a neat cape posted:9. Justin Herbert - Los Angeles Chargers a neat cape posted:10. Dak Prescott - Dallas a neat cape posted:11. Ryan Tannehill - Tennessee a neat cape posted:12. Baker Mayfield - Cleveland a neat cape posted:13. Kirk Cousins - Minnesota a neat cape posted:14. Derek Carr - Las Vegas a neat cape posted:15. Kyler Murray - Arizona a neat cape posted:16. Joe Burrow - Cincinnati a neat cape posted:17. Ryan Fitzpatrick - Washington a neat cape posted:18. Matt Ryan - Atlanta a neat cape posted:19. Andy Dalton - Chicago a neat cape posted:20. Tua Tagovailoa - Miami a neat cape posted:21. Jimmy Garapalo - San Francisco a neat cape posted:22. Jameis Winston - New Orleans a neat cape posted:23. Ben Roethlisberger - Pittsburgh a neat cape posted:24. Drew Lock - Denver a neat cape posted:25. Daniel Jones - New York Giants a neat cape posted:26. Jared Goff - Detroit a neat cape posted:27. Cam Newton - New England a neat cape posted:28. Jalen Hurts - Philadelphia a neat cape posted:29. Sam Darnold - Carolina a neat cape posted:30. Jacob Eason (?????) - Indianapolis a neat cape posted:31. Trevor Lawrence - Jacksonville a neat cape posted:32. Zach Wilson - New York Jets
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 04:52 |
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Apparently what is impossible for all sports media is a breeze for Ross. I can’t say that I disagree with anything
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 05:13 |
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a neat cape posted:13. Kirk Cousins - Minnesota The tendency is to crap on Cousins for being mercenary white bread but he has a good deep ball. This season (assuming he doesn't get Covid and die) should be a good chance to see how he'll do with what could be a better than average team.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 05:25 |
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Ye
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 09:08 |
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*Bursting into thread waving my "we're number 28" foam finger*Darth Brooks posted:The tendency is to crap on Cousins for being mercenary white bread but he has a good deep ball. This season (assuming he doesn't get Covid and die) should be a good chance to see how he'll do with what could be a better than average team. Hasn't he already had that though? Legitimately asking here. From the outside looking in Cousins has always had a pair of good receivers and has had Cook in the backfield for the last couple of years. Did they upgrade their O line at all?
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 12:21 |
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The quarterback ranked at number 5, Tom Brady, will be the one who wins this year's Super Bowl, which will be his eighth, just like he did last year.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 12:27 |
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Darth Brooks posted:The tendency is to crap on Cousins for being mercenary white bread but he has a good deep ball. This season (assuming he doesn't get Covid and die) should be a good chance to see how he'll do with what could be a better than average team.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 13:34 |
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Case Cookus is the Aldi brand Kirk Cousins.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 13:36 |
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Dak at 10 behind people like Herbert, Allen, and Stafford.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 13:37 |
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I hate to be the one to do this, but my conscience won't let me stay silent. Some of these rankings are inaccurate.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 13:40 |
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I would put Dak at 4, Brady at 5, and Watson in prison
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 13:47 |
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Raku posted:I would put Dak at 4, Brady at 5, and Watson in prison
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 13:50 |
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Dak Prescott is a top 5 QB.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:00 |
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Raku posted:I would put Brady and Watson in prison
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:04 |
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Prior to putting up historic numbers in 2020: Top 3 passer Dak Prescott - 2019 #2 Passing Yards #6 YPA #3 NY/At #4 QBR #3 PAA (Points Contributed #3 EPA #2 Clutch-weighted Passing https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaTotal/dir/desc #7 On Target % #5 Catchable % #7 On Target % #6 Lowest Bad Throw % #2 CPAY #4 CPAY/Att #3 CPAY/Cmp https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/passing_advanced.htm Also, drat near every one of those numbers is negatively impacted by WR Drops, and he still ranked top of the league in all of them #1 Total Drops - Dallas Cowboys WRs #2 Drop % - Dallas Cowboys WRs Top 5 D Deep Ball Passer On passes thrown at least 20 yards downfield, in 2019 - 46.1% completion percentage - 15.2 yards per attempt - 110.2 Passer Rating - Dak Prescott - Ranked #4 https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-all-32-nfl-quarterbacks-deep-passing Best Running QB No, it's not Lamar Jackson. It's Dak Prescott: https://twitter.com/CowboysStats/status/1258573557677854725?s=09 Dak has compiled 48 points added on designed runs in his career - an average of 20 rushes per season. That's less than 2 per game. Lamar Jackson added 38 points on 250 rushes. Oh, do you prefer WINZZZ?? through 2019 Dak had won 40 regular season games (with one playoff win), won two NFC East titles, appeared in two playoff games, set a franchise record with an 11-game winning streak. Those 40 wins through his first four seasons are the 5th most by any QB in history, and come with the 7th best passer rating, and 6th best completion percentage in history through the first 4 seasons. He also set an NFL record for most completed passes without throwing an interception (breaking Tom Brady's record), and won ROY.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:07 |
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No, put them in a jar and shake it and make them fight.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:07 |
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blarzgh posted:Tom Brady
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:08 |
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https://twitter.com/CowboysStats/status/1413936717816639495?s=20
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:15 |
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Pretty crazy what rooting for a team that hasn't had a successful season for going on 30 years can do to somebody
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:17 |
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People really out here arguing Dak is a better runner than Lamar
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:29 |
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This metric chose below age 30 as a cutuff to exclude Derek Carr as he is a tier 2 QB and the tweet wouldn't pass the eye test
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:32 |
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Actually I'm starting to think Carr is a little low on the list
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:38 |
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A very good list, would only change Tom Brady and put him at #3 and Deshaun Watson at #4 but he is a rapist piece of poo poo so gently caress him
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 14:40 |
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Mystic Stylez posted:People really out here arguing Dak is a better runner than Lamar He is.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 15:01 |
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please stop being difficult in the thread.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 15:12 |
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Drew Lock is a bit high.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 15:30 |
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Ross how many spots would tannehill be able to gain if during this year's playoffs he won a game by playing okay rather than the team carrying his diaper?
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 15:54 |
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Ross thank you for compiling this list but, in my personal opinion, none of your rankings are correct at all
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 15:57 |
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Metapod posted:Ross how many spots would tannehill be able to gain if during this year's playoffs he won a game by playing okay rather than the team carrying his diaper? It would depend on how he played all season. The playoffs are a very limited sample size. If he plays well all season then he can probably approach the top 10. I also put a lot of stock into 2030, which is why Dak is rather low.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 15:59 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Dak at 10 behind people like Herbert, Allen, and Stafford. Stafford is an extremely good QB and I am excited to see what he does this year now that's he's escaped the hellpit that is the Lions.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 16:32 |
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Yeah I have zero hesitation about ranking Stafford that high now that he's on the Rams with that supporting cast and coach
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 16:34 |
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Thank you for the list. I agree with Dak's placement on this list. All the QBs above him are better. My only change is that I would move Baker down at least for now since he really feels like a product of his surrounding team and is terribly inconsistent when ever I see the Browns play. I would rather have Kyler or Carr or maybe Burrow if he is healthy.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 16:46 |
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Mystic Stylez posted:People really out here arguing Dak is a better runner than Lamar and a better anything than Josh Allen
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 16:53 |
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Recency Bias is a helluva drug
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 17:26 |
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Dear ROSS, Let me tell you why your list needs work! It's actually fine.
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# ? Aug 9, 2021 17:40 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 11:51 |
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I'd like to remind people that both Dak and Stafford suck. Garbage time stats that make you good in fanty don't make you a good NFL QB.
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