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Ran Rannerson posted:Honestly I’ve always felt that part of the reason people dislike ARR so much is because they’re trying to rush through to get to The Good Stuff and I personally think ARR is more satisfying if you take it slow and marinate in the world. That might be colored by the fact that FF14 is my first MMO and obviously it’s different if you’re having a great time with MSQ and want to see what’s next but I think a lot of my enjoyment was based around trying out the different jobs and wandering off to do job storylines or sidequests when the MSQ wasn’t doing it for me. Tbh, a lot of the best ARR writing is not mandatory or is heavily supported by optional dialogue. If you aren't talking with side NPCs frequently, you're going to be missing the small character arcs that make a lot of the main story have impact.
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Regy Rusty posted:God the end of Stormblood here is so good. I'm honestly kinda glad that I didn't start playing till after Shadowbringers because waiting for the next expansion after this would have been torture. I remember the Fanfests for ShB and the debate that went on in the thread because they said certain things during the first two Fanfests that weren't necessarily untrue but were misleading. So people in the thread kept arguing back and forth at what the expansion really was going to be. It a good time.
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Like Clockwork posted:Tbh, a lot of the best ARR writing is not mandatory or is heavily supported by optional dialogue. If you aren't talking with side NPCs frequently, you're going to be missing the small character arcs that make a lot of the main story have impact. It's true, like talking to the Scions after every story beat is one thing but also the sidequests are honestly great, The Voyage of the Gobbue goes extremely hard.
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Mar 16, 2024 02:08
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Yeah, I should bring up Sang that you absolutely want to talk to all of your companions when they are available as you do the MSQ, they generally have some interesting things to say.
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Feldegast42 posted:Yeah, I should bring up Sang that you absolutely want to talk to all of your companions when they are available as you do the MSQ, they generally have some interesting things to say. You mean in Shadowbringers? Don't worry, I've been doing that basically since the start. I try hard to bring up any time somebody makes a relevant comment off the side in the LP. Just look at all the work I put in trying to weave the peanut gallery's business into the Ivalice write-ups!
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The 2.x patches were when they first really started trying to put in some work to give the Scions some incidental character, and one of my favorite lines from that is just when Thancred's standing around and says that you'll annoy Alphinaud if you keep him waiting, but then realizing that might be why you're still there, so, carry on. (They killed some of my other favorite little moments because they all happened to be in the cut quests.  )
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Hogama posted:The 2.x patches were when they first really started trying to put in some work to give the Scions some incidental character, and one of my favorite lines from that is just when Thancred's standing around and says that you'll annoy Alphinaud if you keep him waiting, but then realizing that might be why you're still there, so, carry on. (They killed some of my other favorite little moments because they all happened to be in the cut quests. I think 'incidental character' had been happening the whole time, it's just by its nature easily missed
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Oh they had, I just meant more the A-Team in general because they tended to be a bit more self-serious during 2.0 when you caught them between missions.
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Mordiceius posted:It's wild to me that everything Sanguinia has done thus far is all within the scope of the free trial. A free trial that now ends with the Scions in a coma (???), what a game.
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FuturePastNow posted:A free trial that now ends with the Scions in a coma (???), what a game. i mean the last free trial ended with omega and shinryu crashing down in ala mhigo. there's not going to be a non-cliffhanger free trial ever, i think, based on how they write the x.5 patches
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Mister Olympus posted:i mean the last free trial ended with omega and shinryu crashing down in ala mhigo. there's not going to be a non-cliffhanger free trial ever, i think, based on how they write the x.5 patches I've been told the very first free trial ended at the attack on the Waking Sands
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E: sometime during cheesequest I think, since that used to be a lot longer; maybe it terminated just before Titan? I forget since I never got there myself Maybe in like, the hypothetical 12.x they will move the bar to the point where there isn't a cliffhanger at the free trial, but that would also be really bad business so I can't see them ever doing it.
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The first free trial was 14 days, up to level 35. Then they removed the time restriction, but kept the level restriction. - This was done at about the same time 3.56 dropped, so it was kind of a hype-up lead-in to Stormblood. Lord of Crags and then All Good Things are Level 34 quests. Level 35 ends at Eyes on Me (when Alphinaud tells Marques that he's Cid and has an airship). Then they expanded the free trial to level 60 and including all of Heavensward (where we got the infamous meme) in the middle of Shadowbringers (it was patch 5.3) in 2020. The expanded the free trial again to level 70 and including all of Stormblood not so long ago, in patch 6.5 in 2023.
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dyslexicfaser posted:Didn't they have the base and the B-team change every time you came back all throughout ARR? Like Tataru trying new stuff like learning to juggle and the rotating cast of Livianne and Auba and Aulie and them, and that one time Thancred was just sat at a table playing with a dagger, and such I remember hearing that Tataru used to be able to play Triple Triad with you, though that was removed for some reason.
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Ivypls posted:
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I remember hearing that Tataru used to be able to play Triple Triad with you, though that was removed for some reason. That was for like one patch and they walked it back because having Tataru being a Triple Triad NPC broke all sorts of internal rules about future content and evergreening (they could no longer move Tataru, she has to stay alive, she would require a popup menu if she was ever a node in the MSQ again, etc)
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Sanguinia posted:I've been told the very first free trial ended at the attack on the Waking Sands It finished at L35, with the attack on the Waking Sands after you fight Titan yeah. Good job on getting through the free trial Sang 
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Kwyndig posted:That was for like one patch and they walked it back because having Tataru being a Triple Triad NPC broke all sorts of internal rules about future content and evergreening (they could no longer move Tataru, she has to stay alive, she would require a popup menu if she was ever a node in the MSQ again, etc) There's another NPC in the patch 4.x storyline who demonstrates the issue with attaching main storyline characters to side content pretty succinctly: even though the MSQ has him in a coma, Urianger still has to be available in the Waking Sands if you haven't started or in some cases finished all of the quests for the Binding Coils, the Odin trial, and the ARR extreme trials.
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Mar 16, 2024 09:21
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I think you'll find that is his twin brother: Yearly-Anchor.
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 The road goes ever on, and as does the laughter of thirsting posters 
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FFXIV is crafted with marvelous levels of detail and care, but the sheer size and scope of the experience means that it's easy to overlook or forget much of its foreshadowing, callbacks, and flavor. A thorough screenshot Let's Play that explores the game at a more relaxed pace is the perfect supplement for FFXIV, and I'm happy to have another full campaign available to enjoy in this format. As for Stormblood itself, I'm glad I didn't play FFXIV when it was current. I agree with the common opinion that it's the "weakest expansion" (even though that label carries much less weight in a game of such overall high quality). There's a lot to love and appreciate, but there's also notable sour notes and missteps layered in too. Since the contents of the campaign have been considered leveling and/or optional side content for years at this point, players don't have to dwell on its weakest parts anymore, and I think that overall leads to Stormblood being a better experience.
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quote:Even Aenor is serious for once. You know things are dire when Aenor of the Endless Thirst stops fantasizing about the Boulder Twins.
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kaosdrachen posted:You know things are dire when Aenor of the Endless Thirst stops fantasizing about the Boulder Twins. Please use her full name if you include the title it's very important
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Hm, how many of the second-string Scions have shown up in the combat engine to get an in-game title?
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I feel like given the conflicts around the globe that Stormblood has aged well in content (if not in execution).
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Sanguinia posted:You mean in Shadowbringers? Don't worry, I've been doing that basically since the start. I try hard to bring up any time somebody makes a relevant comment off the side in the LP. Just look at all the work I put in trying to weave the peanut gallery's business into the Ivalice write-ups! Streamer check weather, streamer check buff.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Please use her full name if you include the title it's very important I think you and I might be the only ones who know her full name…
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Aenor Cockburne.
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kaosdrachen posted:You know things are dire when Aenor of the Endless Thirst stops fantasizing about the Boulder Twins. 
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I really want a sidestory about the Boulder Brothers and their partners. (I mean honestly I want them to be the new main scions but that's not going to happen.)
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Characters who don't have white hair as main scions? Impossible. Cannot be done.
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It's true, it's why Lyse got the boot.
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Suddenly, I'm afraid for Krile.
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Mar 17, 2024 20:09
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This is the let's play thread
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lmao
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Hellioning posted:I really want a sidestory about the Boulder Brothers and their partners. (I mean honestly I want them to be the new main scions but that's not going to happen.) In the following duty, you will play the role of Aenor Cockburne.
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That'd up the game's rating to R though
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