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 When: Thursday, April 27 - Saturday, April 29 Where: Kansas City Important draft related dates: Senior Bowl - February 4 NFL Scouting Combine - February 28 – March 6 (Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, IN) Pro Days Begin - March 7th Leaving early tracker: https://www.nfl.com/news/2023-nfl-draft-underclassmen-tracker-who-intends-to-enter?campaign=Twitter_atn 2023 NFL Draft Trades (Round 1): R1 - Rams > Lions (Traded • Matthew Stafford to Rams for • Jared Goff • 2021 third round pick (#101-Ifeatu Melifonwu) • 2022 first round pick (#32-Lewis Cine) • 2023 first round pick) R1 - Broncos > Seahawks (Traded • Russell Wilson • 2022 fourth round pick (#116-Eyioma Uwazurike) to Broncos for • Drew Lock • Noah Fant • Shelby Harris • 2022 first round pick (#9-Charles Cross) • 2022 second round pick (#40-Boye Mafe) • 2022 fifth round pick (#145-Darian Kinnard) • 2023 first round pick (?-?) • 2023 second round pick) R1 - Saints > Eagles (Traded • 2022 first round pick (#16-Jahan Dotson) • 2022 first round pick (#19-Trevor Penning) • 2022 sixth round pick (#194-Jordan Jackson) to Saints for • 2022 first round pick (#18-Treylon Burks) • 2022 third round pick (#101-Jeremy Ruckert) • 2022 seventh round pick (#237-Chase Lucas) • 2023 first round pick (?-?) • 2024 second round pick (?-?)) R1 - Browns > Texans (Traded • Deshaun Watson • 2024 sixth round pick (?-?) to Browns for • 2022 first round pick (#13-Jordan Davis) • 2022 fourth round pick (#107-Dameon Pierce) • 2023 first round pick (?-?) • 2023 third round pick (?-?) • 2024 first round pick (?-?) • 2024 fourth round pick (?-?)) R1 - 49ers > Dolphins > Broncos (Traded • 2021 first round pick (#3-Trey Lance) to 49ers for • 2021 first round pick (#12-Micah Parsons) • 2022 first round pick (#29-Cole Strange) • 2022 third round pick (#102-Channing Tindall) • 2023 first round pick (?-?)) > Traded • (Bradley Chubb • 2025 fifth round pick (?-?) to Dolphins for • Chase Edmonds • 2023 first round pick (?-?) • 2024 fourth round pick (?-?)) R1 - Dolphins > * (team forfeited • 2023 first round pick • 2024 third round pick for violating league policies pertaining to the integrity of the game (violated league tampering rules with Tom Brady and Sean Payton while they were under contract with other teams, and team intentionally lost games during 2019 season to improve its draft position) If you're interested in the trades beyond Round 1 you can see those here: https://www.prosportstransactions.com/football/DraftTrades/Years/2023.htm Some Prospect Info as of 12/1/22:  quote:Jordan Reid of ESPN.com's top 5 by position The Grey Ghost breakdowns: QBs: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4018787&pagenumber=6&perpage=40&userid=0#post528408469 Non 1st rd QBs: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4018787&pagenumber=7&perpage=40&userid=0#post528423915 Huge QB breakdown including guys from past few drafts: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4018787&pagenumber=8&perpage=40&userid=0#post528563960 wandler20 fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Dec 20, 2022 |
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looks like a bunch of busts to me
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Dec 1, 2022 21:10
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OH hey it's this subsection of TFF. Whichever one of you told me that Christian Watson was going to be a bust you have some explaining to do.
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Dec 1, 2022 21:12
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Thank you for doing the needful, op
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Dec 1, 2022 21:23
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Anthony Richardson: best qb prospect or perfect qb prospect? The debate continues…
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Dec 1, 2022 21:26
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Current draft order. It's buckwild that 1 win separates pick 2 and pick 13. 1-10 1-9-1 Texans 3-9 Bears 3-8 Rams > Lions 3-8 Broncos > Seahawks 4-8 Panthers 4-8 Saints > Eagles 4-8 Cardinals 4-8 Packers 4-7 Raiders 4-7 Browns > Texans 11-18 4-7 Jaguars 4-7 Steelers 4-7 Lions 4-7-1 Colts 5-7 Falcons 6-5 Seahawks 6-5 Chargers 6-5 Patriots Playoff teams 5-6 Buccaneers 7-5 Football Team 7-4 Ravens 7-4 Jets 7-4 Bengals 7-4 Giants 7-4 49ers > Broncos 7-4 Titans 8-3 Cowboys 8-3 Bills 8-3 Dolphins > Forfeited 9-2 Vikings 9-2 Chiefs 10-1 Eagles
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Dec 1, 2022 21:27
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Oh god, Joey Porter's kid is about to join the NFL? The passage of time is cruel
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Dec 1, 2022 21:28
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kiimo posted:OH hey it's this subsection of TFF. There’s always value in a guy who can run really fast. Ted Ginn made a career out of it even if he only caught like 25% of the balls thrown his way. I don’t think 3 good games is enough to declare him a legitimate WR1 though.
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Dec 1, 2022 21:30
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Ole Fashanu is going back to school and Dalton Kincaid is listed twice
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Dec 1, 2022 21:37
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Christian Watson is doing more things than running fast. I was told bumping him once completely eliminates him from the route
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Dec 1, 2022 21:39
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Ole Fashanu is going back to school and Dalton Kincaid is listed twice 🤷🏻♂️ I just copied a list to have some names to look at. Anything posted now is going to look bad in March.
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Dec 1, 2022 21:42
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kiimo posted:Christian Watson is doing more things than running fast. I was told bumping him once completely eliminates him from the route Okay. My point was that his physical abilities made it pretty unlikely that he’d be an outright bust.
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Dec 1, 2022 21:44
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that top 5 qb prospects list is loving abominable lmao
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Dec 1, 2022 21:44
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Thanks Broncos for letting the Seahawks take a top DE/DT.
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Dec 1, 2022 21:45
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Ole Fashanu is going back to school and Dalton Kincaid is listed twice I think it’s wild that the dude who’s not even 20 is going to turn down millions of dollars. Olu is the top LT off the board in this draft.
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Dec 1, 2022 21:56
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wandler20 posted:2023 NFL Draft Trades (Round 1): I'm gonna be real pedantic for a second but this is inaccurate—the Lions traded the Rams' 2022 pick to the Vikings along with a 2nd round pick (#34) and a 3rd round pick (#66) in exchange for the Vikings' 1st and 2nd round picks, which they used to select Jameson Williams (#12 overall) and Josh Paschal (#46 overall). Anyway I want the Lions to pick a QB, I have grown weary of Jared Goff. Though this — Alaois posted:that top 5 qb prospects list is loving abominable lmao does not raise confidence
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Dec 1, 2022 22:39
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Stroud seems like an excellent prospect, Young seems worth a try, Levis is not an exceptional prospect but seems good enough to warrant a 1st round pick, Richardson is bad but he’s big and fast. I think there are three solid qb prospects. Ultimately not every dude gets to be a Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Luck tier prospect. Sometimes a team just needs to roll the dice on a good qb prospect and do the best they can. Stroud in particular seems weirdly underrated mainly just because he’s not a dynamic mobile threat.
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Dec 1, 2022 22:45
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Anyway I want the Lions to pick a QB, I have grown weary of Jared Goff. Though this — Eh, no one knows anything anyway. The 2018 and 2021 draft classes were supposed to be historically good and they produced duds like Baker, Darnold, Rosen, Zach Wilson, and probably another obvious flop or two or three when the dust settles. The 2017 and 2020 classes weren't particularly hyped up and ended up being much stronger. Winston, Goff, Mariota, and Wentz all went #1 or 2 overall. Etc etc.
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Dec 1, 2022 22:53
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Stroud seems like an excellent prospect ohio state Ornery and Hornery posted:Young seems worth a try smaller kyler murray Ornery and Hornery posted:Levis is not an exceptional prospect but seems good enough to warrant a 1st round pick i said in the NFC South thread that Levis feels like a guy who has a pretty disappointing college stint but ends up somehow having a successful NFL career but he could just as easily be Josh Rosen 2 Ornery and Hornery posted:Richardson is bad but he’s big and fast. Anthony Richardson is a big and fast quarterback who can't throw the ball at all, but he also never actually tucks the ball and runs with it, so he's a dual threat that isn't actually a threat on either axis and Hendon Hooker who you didn't mention is decent but he's also 45 years old
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Dec 1, 2022 23:10
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The draft is for the cold and empty offseason, I just can’t do this yet
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Dec 1, 2022 23:17
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God this aged well. Just lol. Lmao.
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Dec 1, 2022 23:23
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I only saw Anthony Richardson against FSU this year and he loving sucks based off only that. He had like 11 straight incompletions at one point and some were simple check downs.
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Dec 1, 2022 23:33
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wandler20 posted:I only saw Anthony Richardson against FSU this year and he loving sucks based off only that. He had like 11 straight incompletions at one point and some were simple check downs. I watched every game. He’s bad.
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Dec 1, 2022 23:34
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Hmm, two guys who are out of the league or the GOAT's heir apparent?
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Dec 1, 2022 23:34
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Yeah Richardson “can’t throw the ball” or “make check downs” but he’s big and fast and full of love. Think outside the box ya jabronis!!!
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Dec 1, 2022 23:44
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Richardson is just not a QB, full stop. He's a big fast guy, idk make him a TE or something. Between Young, Stroud, Levis, and Hooker I don't know that any of them are inspiring but I think I'd roll the dice on Levis. He's got the tools, he's performed well at times, and I'm going to convince myself that he didn't look better bc Kentucky went through 3 different OCs in his time.
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Dec 1, 2022 23:57
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man i thought this QB draft class was supposed to be one of the best ever, what happened
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Never draft an Ohio State QB
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epic bacon posted:man i thought this QB draft class was supposed to be one of the best ever, what happened people say this every year about next year's QB class to make themselves feel like their team has a chance
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epic bacon posted:man i thought this QB draft class was supposed to be one of the best ever, what happened We actually played the games.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Richardson is just not a QB, full stop. He's a big fast guy, idk make him a TE or something. To stop shitposting for a moment (and ONLY a moment): I think Levis is definitely a better prospect than what his stock appears to be right now. His team was injured and bad, he’s never had consistent coaching as you noted, and he had to play against a high level of competition. That said I am still not blown away because he hasn’t really shown flashes of greatness. He’s a fine prospect and should go in the first. But I think Stroud is clearly a tier above Levis.
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^^^^ yep, that makes sense. for the bucs tho, assuming they look at QBs, id rather roll the dice on Levis over stroud but i don't think either will be available by the time they pick anywayAlaois posted:people say this every year about next year's QB class to make themselves feel like their team has a chance next year has Caleb Williams who might at least be a clear cut #1 overall guy bc he's in the same realm of quality as bryce young while being over 6ft and weighing ~215lbs
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Ornery and Hornery posted:To stop shitposting for a moment (and ONLY a moment) This is a dangerous path you're treading on.
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Nervous posted:We actually played the games. its this
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Nervous posted:We actually played the games. Yea, it’s the mystery box. Just imagine how good these guys will be with another year of development! Then at the end of the year you open the box and it’s a couple of Canadian coins and dried rat turds. Well that sucks, but next years box will definitely be better.
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will levis looked like what usually happens when a good college qb comes into a really bad nfl team, but already doing that in college
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Relentlessboredomm posted:^^^^ yep, that makes sense. for the bucs tho, assuming they look at QBs, id rather roll the dice on Levis over stroud but i don't think either will be available by the time they pick anyway Caleb is legit but who else is there, do you think Spencer Rattler will somehow play himself back into the 1st round I kinda hope so, it would be funny
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AndrewP posted:The draft is for the cold and empty offseason, I just can’t do this yet you'll be back after the next crushing loss... they always come crawling back
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kiimo posted:Christian Watson is doing more things than running fast. I was told bumping him once completely eliminates him from the route He has like 300 yards over 12 weeks chill out
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