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DoubleNegative posted:EDIT: It wants me to use bombs to activate the crystal switch in Spirit Temple child-side. It may also want me to stand in one of the extreme corners of the room and use the slingshot to just barely clip the edge of the switch. Either way, it's tech I've never had to use before and not tech I've enabled in my settings! Anyway, I'm trying it myself, and my seed's a lot tamer so far. I mean, I don't have a bomb bag yet, but that's not much of an issue when I've already got Bombchus (and I turned on the Bombchu drop option too, so I don't have to worry too much about running out since I can just go find some bushes and farm more anytime). Kinda running all over the place looking for the Master Sword because I don't wanna go unarmed, but not having any actual problems yet. Oh, right, you said you've got the "unbreakable sticks" option turned on, but is your Deku Shield fireproof?
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CptWedgie posted:...This is a thing? I do have that option enabled, yeah. I don't really like being able to lose equipment because it burns to ash. Anyway, on the randomizer settings menu, there's a tab to select what speedrun tricks you know how to do, which will logically let you perform those tricks to get the items behind those checks early. The only one I have enabled is grottos without the Stone of Agony because I've done enough of these seeds to memorize their locations. That's why I was so confused when it asked me to use tricks found on the oot speedrun tech site to get basic progression. Also, with progressive bombchus like that, you may not see a bomb bag for a while. It's really only needed to finish Dodongo's Cavern.
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DoubleNegative posted:Also, with progressive bombchus like that, you may not see a bomb bag for a while. It's really only needed to finish Dodongo's Cavern. Took me forever to get Zelda's Lullaby, and I think Master Sword was behind that; it took me a bit to realize that it actually wanted me to hit things with my hammer (by which I mean "I cleared more-or-less everything I could access as a child before considering it"). At least I full-cleared Deku Tree when I found it, though; would've been annoying to get there as a kid, but thankfully it's a surprisingly adult-friendly dungeon despite how you're not supposed to be able to access it that way.
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DoubleNegative posted:EDIT: It wants me to use bombs to activate the crystal switch in Spirit Temple child-side. It may also want me to stand in one of the extreme corners of the room and use the slingshot to just barely clip the edge of the switch. Either way, it's tech I've never had to use before and not tech I've enabled in my settings! This speed tech in action! It's not hard to do it turns out. But I also called the seed over when I ran into this, and also poked around the spoiler log on top of that. So all the fun and surprise is gone now. I think I might un-mirror the world and not randomize the dungeon entrances just to make the next run a little less cursed.
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On a whim, I decided to start up a Zelda 64 Combo Randomizer seed. "What's that?" you may ask? Well, you know about SMZ3 by now, right? It's like that, except with OoT and Majora's Mask. Z64 Combo 01: An Empty World This is gonna take a while... (Also, let me know if you want me to adjust the size of the screenshots; they look a little big to me, but not big enough for me to go back and change them without external input.)
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The screenshots look fine to me, but I'm probably not a good judge here. I can't believe how much MM stuff you're finding! And with souls and silvers randomized, you're in for quite the long trek ahead.
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No, that was not an April Fools' prank. Unless it's on myself, as demonstrated in this update... Z64 Combo 02: Rapid Transition I would've expected there to be more to do in OoT before it forced me into MM... I mean, I was at least expecting an ocarina...
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  Z64 Combo 03: Long Overdue Progression Hell seed confirmed.
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What the gently caress. Ocarina being so deep in MM meant I never would have found it. But I also strongly dislike dipping into dungeons for sphere 0 checks unless I have no other options. Putting progression on 'failing' the first cycle is kinda bullshit, not gonna lie!
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DoubleNegative posted:Putting progression on 'failing' the first cycle is kinda bullshit, not gonna lie! On the bright side, Ocarina opens up enough checks that I should at least be able to stay in OoT for an entire update.
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ocarina locked so much you don't even know Z64 Combo 04: Well-Deserved Vacation Anyway, I've managed to make a massive leap forward in progression. Still nowhere near Go Mode (not really even close to getting into a boss fight), but progress is especially good after that hellish Ocarina placement.
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DoubleNegative posted:Reviving the thread with something dumb and kinda cursed. Wouldn't vertically mirrored be upside down?
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CptWedgie posted:ocarina locked so much you don't even know Making quite a bit of progress here! Although the seed really loves its MM items. Phosphine posted:Wouldn't vertically mirrored be upside down? And yeeeeah. I was def. wrong about it being vertically mirrored. Horizontally is bad enough, I'd hate to actually imagine the world flipped vertically.
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...This feels weird. Z64 Combo 05: Grab A Flyswatter In a good way, but still- weird.
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Dammit. Z64 Combo 06: Bait And Switch Of course as soon as I run out of MM checks it finagles a way to force me to do MM checks anyway... why wouldn't a seed like this do that?!
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Note to self: Never play "Moon Crash is Time Reset". It's not worth it. Also continue to start with Soaring because god navigating MM is horrible without it.
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CptWedgie posted:Dammit. CptWedgie posted:...This is gonna be another case of progression being locked behind the stupidest possible check, isn't it? CptWedgie posted:...As I'm sure you've noticed by now, this seed is evil. At this point, you probably ought to just check the worst locations first.
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jkq posted:At this point, you probably ought to just check the worst locations first. At the very least, doing the not-the-worst-possible-location checks first gives me time to cool off between oh-god-why locations.
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CptWedgie posted:No I shouldn't, because that much concentrated frustration would lead to a ragequit. I'm sure you guys're morbidly curious about where the next bit of (presumably MM considering the trend) progression is, and if I drop the seed you'll never find out, right? I didn't mean all in a row.  Just do one first, and then a bunch of "cool off" locations afterwards. You'll find the OoT light arrows or something! And then no bow for the next 3 hours, 'cuz evil seed 
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jkq posted:Just do one first, and then a bunch of "cool off" locations afterwards. And joke's on you- I got both bows in the first update. That said, with how things are going that's about how I expect OoT Song of Time to go, and since I need the song to go adult that'd have much the same result.
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These updates are doing more to turn me off of the combo randomizer than anything else. I can't stand when randos string you along with a bunch of nonsense checks without giving you what you need to make useful progress. It's also making me glad for Harkinian's "make minigames painless" settings.
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DoubleNegative posted:These updates are doing more to turn me off of the combo randomizer than anything else. I can't stand when randos string you along with a bunch of nonsense checks without giving you what you need to make useful progress. ...I really wish it had a "skip minigames" option though. As I said, the MM minigames are tedious, poorly-balanced abominations (though admittedly part of the problem might just be me sucking). I am at least reasonably certain that I just had the misfortune of getting a particularly bad seed. Bad seeds can ruin otherwise-good randomizers for you if they happen to be your first exposure to the randomizer in question. ...not that I plan on playing this again; as I mentioned, I have no idea why I decided to do this one because, honestly, I'm not even a fan of MM.
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CptWedgie posted:So basically do what I've been doing already? (Mostly because the seed's been funneling me through all the bad checks and I'm last-locationing them all out of a desperate hope that I didn't roll the worst possible seed out of sheer bad luck.) Kinda, yeah. CptWedgie posted:And joke's on you- I got both bows in the first update. That said, with how things are going that's about how I expect OoT Song of Time to go, and since I need the song to go adult that'd have much the same result. Oops, sorry, I'd forgotten about that. Drowned out by the MM heart pieces?  DoubleNegative posted:These updates are doing more to turn me off of the combo randomizer than anything else. I can't stand when randos string you along with a bunch of nonsense checks without giving you what you need to make useful progress. It feels more like a bad set of options to me. Too many places and things to check. CptWedgie posted:really, half the problem is that I specifically picked settings which turned out to be utterly terrible, without adding any safeties to prevent this disaster. Yep! CptWedgie posted:I am at least reasonably certain that I just had the misfortune of getting a particularly bad seed. Bad seeds can ruin otherwise-good randomizers for you if they happen to be your first exposure to the randomizer in question. This too.
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Combo is extremely customizable. Keeping moon crash off means MM is considered completely out of logic until you have Ocarina and Song of Time, and you can set it so that similar items are shared. You found a bow? That works for both games. Hookshot? Ditto. Ocarina? Yep. Honestly if anyone was interested in trying combo I'd say use one of the Blitz presets as a base. They make it so you only have to clear no more than 6 dungeons for go mode, most items are shared, and you start with Soaring and access to both MM and Adult. It's pretty open and comfy.
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In which I accidentally show off how fed up I am with minigames. Z64 Combo 07: Breakthrough On the bright side: progress!
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Lullaby is a big one! Like I said in my video, it blocks off a lot of stuff now and in the future. So, it puts a lot of checks into logic. Also, a warning about killing bosses as child Link. In Harkinian, at least, if you kill Bongo Bongo as a kid, the game glitches out and forces you back into the fight. But you also need to be blatantly cheating several ways to even access him as a kid.
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DoubleNegative posted:Also, a warning about killing bosses as child Link. In Harkinian, at least, if you kill Bongo Bongo as a kid, the game glitches out and forces you back into the fight. But you also need to be blatantly cheating several ways to even access him as a kid. Really, the only reason I put Morpha off so long is the fact that it never occurred to me that fighting an adult boss as a child might be in logic with certain settings.
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 BIG UPDATE! Z64 Combo 08: A New Age I got something even more important than Lullaby! 
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Indeed! I can't imagine how many checks opened once you got Song of Time. Must have been quite the relief!
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This is a novel feeling. Z64 Combo 09: Cleanup On Aisle 3 There are actually locations I have no need to return to now.
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How do you do lab dive with boots? It seems like it would be handy to know.
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DoubleNegative posted:How do you do lab dive with boots? It seems like it would be handy to know. Want me to edit that into the update?
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If you want to, I was just curious for my own edification. 
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Still doing OoT stuff somehow. Z64 Combo 10: Firewood Starting to run low on OoT checks for now; 50/50 on whether I've got enough left for another update without going to MM.
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If you mentioned needing Song of Time to switch to adult for OoT before it happened, my eyes just kind of slid right past it. “What if this is an Open Door of Time seed?” I kept asking myself.
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quote:Don't know if I'll lose my Dust on moonfall quote:Can't full-clear this without Deku Scrubs (and probably can't do it without Skulltulas either) quote:Time to turn child to raid the Chest Game! quote:Don't have Zelda or Impa, so off to pay Dampe to rob graves for me! Turns out he hates the Sun's Song though, so I pass the time by doing the last bug check too.
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AweStriker posted:If you mentioned needing Song of Time to switch to adult for OoT before it happened, my eyes just kind of slid right past it. “What if this is an Open Door of Time seed?” I kept asking myself. Also, I haven't been showing hints other than the first one to prove that they were on. With Door of Time closed, literally the only reason to screenshot inside the Temple is checking the Stone locations- in other words, a hint. And bringing it up at any other time would be pretty out-of-context; not entirely out of character for me, given my rambling during the Majora skulltula hunts, but I still had no reason to talk about it. (Yes, I know, this is just an excuse. Whatever.) Head Hit Keyboard posted:He's only there until like, 10pm or something. It's the one time sensitive thing in OoT that isn't just "Is it Daytime Y/N". Sun's Song in a place that doesn't have time pass sets the time to noon or midnight, while in a place where time does pass it goes to 6AM/PM. So if you're looking to use Sun's to set up Dampe digging, just do it from Hyrule Field or Death Mountain Trail. Also, given how Dampe wakes up at like 6, that makes him absurdly lazy and/or narcoleptic, because that means he sleeps for 20 hours a day.
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Tiiired... Z64 Combo 11: Baked Beans 6-ish hours of sleep will do that to you. Did manage to put out an update, though! And get some good stuff, too!
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Back. Z64 Combo 12: The Horrible-ness Resumes There is a non-zero level of regret for that fact, though.
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