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He can’t play any worse so no harm in not extending him
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blarzgh posted:Also, something everyone needs to understand: The Cowboys Cannot Have Sustained Success under the Jones' Family Leadership. Are you suggesting all the rich board members and owners in america are simply the product of perpetuated wealth accumulation and aristocracy rather than any ability or intellect deserving of such positions? Sir... America's team. Not communist sinorussia's team.
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Dak would have an insane market next offseason. Cowboys would basically have to franchise him and still might lose him
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thinking about teams that probably should give up two firsts next March to be able to sign Dak for his 32-38 seasons: Giants, Raiders, Jets, Seahawks, Steelers. stretch answers: Panthers, Cards, Rams, Titans
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Mar 26, 2024 19:14
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Are you insane No one is trading two firsts for a guy they can sign as a free agent
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indigi posted:thinking about teams that probably should give up two firsts next March to be able to sign Dak for his 32-38 seasons: Giants, Raiders, Jets, Seahawks, Steelers. stretch answers: Panthers, Cards, Rams, Titans Vikings should be first in line
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Mar 26, 2024 19:16
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just from a "we want to compete for a playoff spot" stance he'd guarantee most of those teams at least a wild card. after that, well
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Mar 26, 2024 19:17
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Vikings could have just signed cousins. Why would they commit to dak on a big deal
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Mar 26, 2024 19:17
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Cousins is a lot older and coming off an Achilles
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Forrest on Fire posted:Vikings should be first in line oh yeah
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So you think dak guarantees you a WC? In the nfc east sure . It’s the worst division in football tho
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Don’t forget like Jerry Jones, Dak has his own sexual assault issues
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euphronius posted:So you think dak guarantees you a WC? In the nfc east sure . It’s the worst division in football tho you're right that he probably doesn't guarantee a WC on the Raiders or Steelers. all those other teams though he'd be contending for the division
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euphronius posted:So you think dak guarantees you a WC? In the nfc east sure . It’s the worst division in football tho Entertainment-wise, the NFC East is the best division in football. 
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euphronius posted:Don’t forget like Jerry Jones, Dak has his own sexual assault issues Do better euphronius. I really don't think he has any sexual assaults.
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Asproigerosis posted:Do better euphronius. I really don't think he has any sexual assaults. Search the internet!! It’s there !!
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Harlock posted:All this talk about Dak when he's gone anyways I thought they would have to extend Dak just to get the cap number down Isnt he on like 60 mil this year
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It's fine. They'll just give Dak, CeeDee, and Micah the largest contracts ever for their respective positions next year and the team will be super awesome. They might even lose in the 2nd round of the playoffs instead of the 1st once!
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Blarzgh, where do you slot your boy Prescott among the all time Cowboys greats. Your undying affection for him is cute at best and annoying at worst but I was curious who you'd slot higher him? Certainly Staubach, right?
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Harlock posted:All this talk about Dak when he's gone anyways “We are where we are, locked and loaded for this year.” see, this is why there have been no free agent additions. all in has already been achieved! they are where they are, locked and loaded. they're not going to draft any players either! this cowboys team already has everything it needs. eleven months 'til the next lombardi!
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they've got a really loving good roster and they aren't locking themselves in for $60m/year on a QB with a tragic history of not getting it done, i think that's not the worst spot to be in
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like who else in the division would you want to be? philly, with its 50m/year QB who may or may not have it and a defense in absolute shambles? washington, rebuilding into god knows what? the giants?
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Toaster Beef posted:they've got a really loving good roster and they aren't locking themselves in for $60m/year on a QB with a tragic history of not getting it done, i think that's not the worst spot to be in You might have missed a large chunk of that "really loving good roster" leaving and no replacements to take their place. Albatross contracts and fill in the blanks with roughage and injured 2nd round picks, the Dallas Cowboys way.
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Hurts is a 13 million qb this year
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euphronius posted:Hurts is a 13 million qb this year 13 million too much.
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We’ll see . He could bounce back
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Shinjobi posted:You might have missed a large chunk of that "really loving good roster" leaving and no replacements to take their place. This has felt like kind of a forced media narrative to me. Like, the Cowboys generally draft well, and also generally overpay those same guys going into second contracts. It hasn't been the massive talent exodus it's been portrayed as, but it's a lot of spots where mostly anonymous backups will have to put in work. I think they should probably extend Dak, but there was no way to justify paying Biadasz and Dorance Armstrong what the Commanders ended up paying them. Gilmore is unsigned, LVE retired, and basically nobody believes Tyron Smith can play more than half a season. The biggest concern to me is the Oline, but it wouldn't be a shock if Hoffman is fine at center and Tyler Smith can kick out to LT. RT and LG should probably be priorities in the draft though.
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I went back and counted Tony Romo:pre:Win Loss Rec Reg. Rec 8 22 0.267 Playoffs 1 0 1.000 Total 9 22 0.290 This sample includes a game where Romo left at halftime and Dallas lost in Brad Johnson's hand because I also included Romo's win where he came in for Drew Bledsoe who was down more than 10 points in the second. I figure those games balance. I'll note that Romo also had 6 or 7 wins where he was down 9 in the second and won the game. Dak doesn't really have those as he gets blown out or blows out the other team.
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One of those losses also was the 51-49 Broncos loss that inspired a great TMM comic where Jason Garrett is holding all of the defense babies yelling at Romo to go get more points.
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dak should try doing the push tush. pretty good qb
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Toaster Beef posted:they've got a really loving good roster and they aren't locking themselves in for $60m/year on a QB with a tragic history of not getting it done, i think that's not the worst spot to be in I think really good roster is overstating it. Too many question marks up front on both sides of the ball. No guarantee that they can put an adequate left guard (assuming Tyler Smith plays LT) or center on the field this year. Steele was pretty shaky off that torn ACL too. On the defensive line end of thigs, it's just Parsons, Lawrence and Odighizuwa. Parsons and Lawrence are a formidable edge duo, but Lawrence is on the wrong side of 30. There is no depth beyond that at edge. Like Sam Williams' talent, but I wouldn't trust him. Odighizuwa is their only effective defensive tackle. You can't pour dirt on Mazi Smith after one season, but he was pretty bad in 2023 and his offseason is not off to a roaring start. Where do the reinforcements come from? This is PURELY just the lines. Those aren't the only places the team needs players. The team is going nowhere fast, with or without Prescott. The Cowboys do a good job of acquiring talent, but their roster management is amongst the worst in the league. They almost never invest in the right players and are basically always unprepared for the future. They fell backward into Prescott and have done basically nothing to prepare for life without him. If the plan is not to marry yourself to him, there is no point in playing this season with him. Decent chance they win too many games to draft another QB and then Prescott walks away. OR they extend Prescott later than they should've and you just wasted the 2024 season. It's no win for Dallas, but it's been that way for going on 30 years now because there's no consequences for failure there. John Cowheel fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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Toaster Beef posted:like who else in the division would you want to be? philly, with its 50m/year QB who may or may not have it and a defense in absolute shambles? washington, rebuilding into god knows what? the giants? Literally anyone else, now that Synder sold the Commanders. Dunno what more evidence people need to see that the Cowboys office is the problem and not an endless sea of scapegoats on the field and sideline. The problem there being that these aren't people who can one day be fired, they will keep running the team this way in perpetuity. No other team in the division is in that predicament now and it's not like I'm even high on the Maras or Harris. The Cowboys have Al Davis with a better PR team for an owner / GM and a possibly even more incompetent "executive" is waiting in the wings behind him.
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It’s not scapegoating to say your qb lost the game by turning the ball over.
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John Cowheel posted:Literally anyone else, now that Synder sold the Commanders. Dunno what more evidence people need to see that the Cowboys office is the problem and not an endless sea of scapegoats on the field and sideline. The problem there being that these aren't people who can one day be fired, they will keep running the team this way in perpetuity. No other team in the division is in that predicament now and it's not like I'm even high on the Maras or Harris. The Cowboys have Al Davis with a better PR team for an owner / GM and a possibly even more incompetent "executive" is waiting in the wings behind him. Yeah, basically I've been on team "Washington's the most optimistic situation in the division right now" all offseason and I'm not wavering on that. Even if they're the only ones that don't end up in playoffs; we already almost saw that a few months ago, and everyone else has only spiraled since (in Philly's case, spiraled further) Canning McCarthy next January will only do so much as a bandaid, and that's all it'll be
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BiggerBoat posted:Blarzgh, where do you slot your boy Prescott among the all time Cowboys greats. I slot him as one of the best QBs in the league for the last 7 years and better than any other option the Cowboys have for the next 3 or 4 seasons and every team in the league that doesn't have a player named mahomes. Alan or Burrows would trade quarterback situations in a heartbeat. Lots of teams have won lots of Super bowls with lots. Worst quarterbacks, like Eli Manning for example, So if you can't win with that then that's on you.
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You have succumbed to the neoliberal tendency to think models are more true than reality In the real world Eli manning is light years better than dak Prescott
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Eli is 8-4 Dak is 2-5
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Eli is going to the Hall and it'll be first ballot. Dak needs to fight to get in, period
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lol dak prescott has no loving chance at the hall of fame
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Cartoon Man posted:Eli is 8-4 And let’s be clear, two of Eli’s wins were Super Bowls over Football Hitler. I ❤️ Eli 4ever Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:lol dak prescott has no loving chance at the hall of fame He can travel to Canton and pay the $40~ admission fee to get in like anyone else.
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