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I mean that's not totally unreasonable to me if scum has some way of keeping Opop in check so that his information is useless. It's a pretty common scum gambit to leave a PR alive if you have someone loving with their results every night. I'm not saying Opop isn't scum rn, I'm just entertaining the counterargument.
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Cloacamazing! posted:Anarc probably tracked Opop Night 2 and didn't have an action Night 1 because according to their claim they only inherited Plastic's role after his death Night 1. oh yeah there was the drip-fed comment that opop went nowhere. so it seems like n2 opop, n3 zoya
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Mar 25, 2024 21:48
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and skimming ahead i see you're confirming opop visiting wolo. so you saw wolo go somewhere, zoya no where. opop see's no one visit his three targets at all?
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Idle corrections to dumb thoughts I had: If it was just "first non-vanilla townie to die" shouldn't TPC have inherited Cube's Umpire instead of cob's Billboard? We've seen the billboard in action so I don't know if that's really anything, and despite seemingly being Town Cube's role did sound a bit like a 3rd Party, but I digress.
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Monathin posted:I mean that's not totally unreasonable to me if scum has some way of keeping Opop in check so that his information is useless. It's a pretty common scum gambit to leave a PR alive if you have someone loving with their results every night. so we have two masons, two role backups, 1 watcher, 1 tracker, and one jailer. it'll be really strange if theres a redirector because it doesnt fit with the group at all. feels like we're missing a doc more than anything.
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Monathin posted:Idle corrections to dumb thoughts I had: If it was just "first non-vanilla townie to die" shouldn't TPC have inherited Cube's Umpire instead of cob's Billboard? oh lmao I forgot about cube and keats. a night vig + a day vig too.
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Monathin posted:Idle corrections to dumb thoughts I had: If it was just "first non-vanilla townie to die" shouldn't TPC have inherited Cube's Umpire instead of cob's Billboard? I actually asked the mods about this on night two because I was confused, and they said it was because cubes ability was not from his role but from his town assignment
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I could see redirector if you're assuming jailer as a combination protective/roleblock role.
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hambeet posted:and skimming ahead i see you're confirming opop visiting wolo. ANarc is a Tracker not a watcher
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Tea Party Crasher posted:I actually asked the mods about this on night two because I was confused, and they said it was because cubes ability was not from his role but from his town assignment Huh. That weirdly confirms the thing Wologar said of scum probably having additional abilities not tied to their role.
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Opopanax posted:ANarc is a Tracker not a watcher Er wait no I messed up wording, brain bad today. They saw me visit wolo not wolo go where ever
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Actually a redirector would also work with the way roles were assigned. All the roles as given out (Messenger, 2 Masons, 2 Backups, Tracker, Watcher, Jailer, Dayvig) are roles that don't typically have an alignment assigned to them or can be both scum or town. I'm actually starting to believe Anarc now, poo poo.
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Mar 25, 2024 22:04
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By flavor, Nightvig was probably randomly assigned to a VT after captains picked their teams.
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Monathin posted:Idle corrections to dumb thoughts I had: If it was just "first non-vanilla townie to die" shouldn't TPC have inherited Cube's Umpire instead of cob's Billboard? Just lol if TPC forgot about Cube when fakeclaiming. Tea Party Crasher posted:I actually asked the mods about this on night two because I was confused, and they said it was because cubes ability was not from his role but from his town assignment Nice save, but I still want it to be the case!
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Mar 25, 2024 22:10
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Monathin posted:By flavor, Nightvig was probably randomly assigned to a VT after captains picked their teams. We have a nightvig?
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wologar posted:We have a nightvig? Oh, Cube. Nvm.
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wologar posted:We have a nightvig? Had, Cube had two kills at night mods posted:CubicalSucrose, TOWN-Aligned Short Stop Umpire has been taken off the field!
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Opopanax posted:ANarc is a Tracker not a watcher I know she’s a tracker which is why I phrased her seeing her targets go somewhere or no where?
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Mar 25, 2024 22:26
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Oh wait I did say wolo instead of opop in that sentence that mentions zoya. That’s a typo. Doesn’t change that I know she’s not a watcher.
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Mar 25, 2024 22:27
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Opopanax posted:Er wait no I messed up wording, brain bad today. They saw me visit wolo not wolo go where ever Ahh yeah okay just my typo
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Cloaca has seemed scummy this game to me because of the lurking, but after the Zoya flip and because of her headache explanation, it is possible to explain with real world circumstances. Opop and anarc seems so much stranger to me on a mechanical level on top of their lurkiness
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I mean those real world circumstances could also be "lurking scum now realizes they're close to winning the game and has to play". I still don't like the way she immediately assumed a connection the second two people moves off opop.
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Tea Party Crasher posted:Cloaca has seemed scummy this game to me because of the lurking, but after the Zoya flip and because of her headache explanation, it is possible to explain with real world circumstances. Opop and anarc seems so much stranger to me on a mechanical level on top of their lurkiness Clos sudden activity after zoya flipping seems counter productive to scum on home stretch though. Like it stands out more, no?
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Although cloaca could be a redirector, and that's why she was willing to bat for a tracker she could keep in her pocket
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Monathin posted:I mean those real world circumstances could also be "lurking scum now realizes they're close to winning the game and has to play".
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hambeet posted:Clos sudden activity after zoya flipping seems counter productive to scum on home stretch though. Like it stands out more, no? You're not wrong, the way that she seems to have suddenly activated when in her own words: Cloacamazing! posted:We have an entirely fresh scumteam around, no investigative role has provided any hint on who they could be Does make more sense as scum trying to finish the job
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Tea Party Crasher posted:You're not wrong, the way that she seems to have suddenly activated when in her own words: That comment really reads to me like TMI, but my battering average (doho, dohoho) this game has been poo poo, so.
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Monathin posted:I mean those real world circumstances could also be "lurking scum now realizes they're close to winning the game and has to play". So you're thinking that she reacted that way in order to try and secure the opop vote, rather than protect anarc?
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Tea Party Crasher posted:So you're thinking that she reacted that way in order to try and secure the opop vote, rather than protect anarc? That's the read I got from it, yeah. It's why I'm currently sitting on "one of opop or clo is scum but probably not both", and her vote still being on opop. There's also these comments which is just blaring sirens in my ears: Cloacamazing! posted:If Opop was town, scum could have rushed him already. Cloacamazing! posted:He's either scum or there is/was scum on his vote. This feels like TMI and also Clo trying to push responsibility for someone else voting Opop onto someone else in the final day.
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Notably at the time the people on Opop were you, Clo, and wologar.
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without gaming the mod, i'm not sure about a bus driver / redirector. if it was a scum role (and we've not had a town claim of one), it'd give that team a serious advantage over the other team. seems like a convenient way to excuse away a lack of results.
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Tea Party Crasher posted:You're not wrong, the way that she seems to have suddenly activated when in her own words: i'm confused, i feel like you agree with me, but have a different conclusion that is at odds with what i'm saying? maybe i've been having a stroke this morning.
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I probably won't vote outside AN/Opop today.
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wologar posted:I probably won't vote outside AN/Opop today. No thoughts on Clo at all?
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Monathin posted:That's the read I got from it, yeah. It's why I'm currently sitting on "one of opop or clo is scum but probably not both", and her vote still being on opop. yeah the assumption of a possible rush today seems tmi w/r/t numbers of who is and isn't on opop.
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Monathin posted:No thoughts on Clo at all? My thoughts are that she may be town.
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I feel like I would like you to supplement these thoughts because the way I'm looking at it, Clo looks like a scum who overplayed her hand.
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Monathin posted:I feel like I would like you to supplement these thoughts because the way I'm looking at it, Clo looks like a scum who overplayed her hand. I've generally seen Clo at her scummiest when she's town. AN and Opop feel linked to me.
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wologar posted:I probably won't vote outside AN/Opop today. i'm still fine with opop for what i said yesterday. in addition, i'm kinda bugged by his n1 target of gulag. seems like a target you pick to see what town visit, not what scum visit, if you know what i mean? like, a returning player is rarely going to be offed n1. maybe that's just me. i'm actually okay with his n2 target of you (wolo) from a town mindset. n3 anarc ehhhh i'm not sure on. sub optimal at worst, i guess. no results across the three of them though.. monathin's point that they seem to be considered, 'safe' targets, rather than informative ones.
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