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What the hell was Zack "Geist Editor" Parsons smoking when he wrote this review? First of all, Princess maker is NOT a hentai game, nor does it deserve to be judged by such standards. Second of all, the only reason a player would have for putting his daughter in an S&M dress would be to get one of the "evil" endings that the game punishes the player for. Third, he obviously didn't read the documentation because if he did he would know that it is not neccesary to get rid of stress with food, all you have to do is give her "time off". He also obviously didn't know that one can skip the animations, including the opening by hitting the "F3" key.
His critisms of the game, aside from what he said about the adventure part, have no basis in the facts about the game. This was not a fair review.
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quote:Ben came out of the closet to say:
I really hope my sarcastometer is broken.
If you've played the game before you would no that review was completly unfair.
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Nov 13, 2003 22:16
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quote:elpintogrande came out of the closet to say:
[B]You may not classify Princess Maker 2 as a hentai game, but it is most definitely a hentai game.
No its not a hentai game. If it was a hentai game then it would be all about sex. The "weird cross-species sex" is between a human and a dragon assuming human form. You make it sound as though she gets raped by a dog. Also the underage nudity is burried so deeply that no one could realistically say that seeing your daughters breast is the focus of the game. Not every culture places female mamaries as a great taboo like our culture does.
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Also you might want to take note of the fact that I repeatedly and specifically mention alternatives to cake and fish.
If you had the slightest bit of skill at the game you have the daughter rest at the end of each month. Stress is easy to deal with without making her gain weight. (I will however concede that the game has a terrible standard about what qualifies as "fat".)
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quote:Kezef came out of the closet to say:
Yes, I'm sure that is the only reason.
Thanks for misquoting me.
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Nov 13, 2003 22:41
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quote:Saint came out of the closet to say:
Gahahahahaahaha. Dude, look at the username of that "idiot" that posted the frog.
ok, that was out of line. I am sorry. However, I still say that the review was unfair and the thread has been trolled to oblivion.
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Nov 13, 2003 22:43
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quote:elpintogrande came out of the closet to say:
You've got the facts right, but my real question is, why do you care? It's not a good game, it has creepy sexual stuff all through it, so why are you defending its honor? Did your father promise you to the dragon for 10,000 gold?
I care because I like the game and the people are going to get the wrong idea about the game if they read your review, especially since alot of people look for the game thinking they're going to get something worth jacking off to.
I'm sure you were only taking comedic licence but not everyone reads the forum. If they did they would have seen the thread with a lot of positive responses to the game.
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Nov 13, 2003 22:47
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EDIT: This comment was out of line. I am sorry.
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quote:Method Loser came out of the closet to say:
Why are you still posting in this thread.
Because I want to debate this.
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quote:inkblot came out of the closet to say:
Am I the only one who immediatly thought Fire was a gimmick account? Besides, even if it isn't a hentai game those types of games are all really loving boring anyways. Click through some menus, give your simulated daughter some cake and Bloussant, click through some more menus, who the gently caress finds this entertaining? I could make a more entertaining game in Hypercard.
I'm a fan of Sim games what can I say. If you can make a better game please post it. If its half as fun and addictive as princess maker I'm sure I'll enjoy playing it.
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Nov 13, 2003 22:53
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quote:StarkRavingMad came out of the closet to say:
ah yes, the "you couldn't do better" argument, that's always a winner
seriously, stop posting
I don't doubt he could do better. Stop putting words in my mouth. Simple games are sometimes the most fun, just look at Tetris.
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Nov 13, 2003 22:56
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quote:Damien came out of the closet to say:
Shut the gently caress up, Fire.
Hey, I was more than willing to close the thread after people started complaining but EPG decided to open it again so I will continue to defend myself from these attacks.
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Nov 13, 2003 23:02
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quote:ricequeen came out of the closet to say:
If Princess Maker 2 is a hentai game, then it really doesn't have much in the way of hentai. It'd be more appropriate to fit it under the life-sim genre.[/tmyk]
Ignoring that, the game itself is kinda entertaining for a week or two. It's fun trying to see what ending you can get. But beyond that, there isn't much to the game. You juggle jobs and study, tweak your stats, and get an ending. The adventure game part is extremely simplistic; it would've helped a lot if they just added more monsters and items. And the sequels don't really add much beyond better artwork, Gainax even takes out the adventuring part in PM3 :(
And Fire, just realize that the point of the game reviews on SA isn't unbiased, in-depth analysis. It's for some laughs and Zach's review served that purpose for other people. If you think it was unfair, don't lose any sleep over it. There are plenty of more positive reviews everywhere on the internet.
Thank you. This was a fair criticism of myself and this thread.
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Nov 13, 2003 23:03
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quote:Equilibrium came out of the closet to say:
You are an island of truth.
Thanks for the derail but I stand by what I originally said. I enjoy reading the articles on Democratic Underground. I trust their opinion more than Fox News.
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Nov 13, 2003 23:05
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quote:elpintogrande came out of the closet to say:
The majority of your argument is that the game is good and that I lied or made errors about specifics. The former is pure opinion, although I would have to say liking this game could be classified as a form of dementia and qualify you for federal assistance. On the latter you have been proven false by virtue of your inability to read. The one point of yours remaining to be addressed is that Princess Maker 2 is not a hentai game, which I dispute.
I pose to you a challange, name a single non-hentai game that features underage female nudity and the ability to have sex with a supernatural creature.
Princess Maker 2 may be only a "light" hentai game, but it fits the mold for hentai more than mainstream gaming.
There is no sex with supernatural creatures in PM2. There is marriage with one. No sex is mentioned in that ending.
Also the concepts of "underage" and "nudity" are socially constructed and arbitrary as they vary from culture to culture.
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quote:Republicanus came out of the closet to say:
I find this episode of Everybody Loves FIRE to be among his best, since the very special episode concerning his love affair with an inanimate object. (oh, that one was funny). The writing was stellar, compared to the episode where FIRE got his foot stuck in that hay baler while being chased by raccoons.
I especially love the part where he got the word G A M E S confused with Debate & Discussion. Sure, it's over the top, but the absurdity of the character just makes you love the goof even more.
I posted this in "games" because it is about a game. Are you telling me there are no debates about games? Of course you're not.
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quote:SpicyChickenStyle came out of the closet to say:
***PEDOLARM IS RINGING IN THE TOP REGISTER
***RECCOMEND NUKE FROM ORBIT
I don't mind america's standards of "underage" and "nudity" what I do mind is imposing those standards on the artwork of other cultures. This game is perfectly acceptable in culture in which is was made.
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quote:elpintogrande came out of the closet to say:
Frying rear end omelettes is too, can I not insult those either?
rear end omelettes? I don't understand the reference.
You can insult anything you want to. I just wanted to post a second opinion of the game.
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quote:Winson_Paine came out of the closet to say:
Not sure if you've noticed, but Fire is not so much a pedo as he is gay as a maypole.
I'm not really gay. Sorry man.
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quote:SpokkerJones came out of the closet to say:
I think the big question is why the gently caress do you care, Fire? Even if Princess Maker was the holy grail of all gaming and elpintogrande got everything about the game wrong, what's the big deal? Why get all up in arms about it and post a thread? Why not just close your alternative browser window and go import a human being Japanese game so you can further stain your chair with retarded sperm samples and rear end juices that make the mold growing in the folds of your neck cry?
Why does anyone care about anything? Why did EPG care enough to write the review in the first place? Why did EPG care enough to reopen this thread when I closed it.? Why do you care that I posted this thread?
On a larger scale, Why did people care when a partisan journalist like Micheal Moore got an acedemy award? Why does anyone watch the academy awards at all or read movie reviews? Why does anyone read gaming forums and websites? Games and movies exist to be played, enjoyed, and critiqued. We all have our own opinions and we post our opinions here. I am no different from anyone else.
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quote:elpintogrande came out of the closet to say:
Frying rear end omelettes is too, can I not insult those either?
rear end omelettes? I don't understand the reference.
You can insult anything you want to. I just wanted to post a second opinion of the game.
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quote:randoark came out of the closet to say:
Some advice... taking anyone anything says too seriously or as some horrible offense to your personal dignity/honor/beliefs is a sure way of getting yourself flamed to oblivion. If you don't have the sense of humor to accept that, this place isn't for you. Hell, I love Coldplay and Radiohead but DannyManic's frontpage reviews still made me chuckle.
I mean, this game was just recently the newest SA Old Game Club's entry, a lot of people downloaded this and tried it out for a few days. It wasn't that bad, and I agree that it's really not a hentai game.
then i masturbated furiously trying to make my daughter sleep with the dragon FURRY FURRY
Ok, I'll keep that in mind when some else flames that idiot from ain't it cool news
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quote:StarkRavingMad came out of the closet to say:
pedophilic/furry tendencies
When did I ever say I like to gently caress kids and masturbate to winger?
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quote:SpokkerJones came out of the closet to say:
Hey Fire are you going to adopt a little girl and make her into a princess?
I think I'll fire the game up again and play some more, thank you very much.
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quote:Serotonin came out of the closet to say:
This is the best sentence ever written on these forums...
Well it's true. There was no mention of the grown up daughter actually having sex with the dragon prince. Also this prince is in human form the whole time he is marring your daughter.
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quote:ReindeerF came out of the closet to say:
Anyone who thinks Fire isn't absolutely sincere hasn't been subjected to Fire previously. Also this is the most hilarious Fire thread ever, even better than the gay porn one and the one where he posted his amihotornot page.
You mean this one?
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quote:Surph came out of the closet to say:
Seriously though, the game has as much nudity as Max Payne 2 and even GTA3 as more explicit sex in it.
You can now continue to laugh at Fire simply because he disagrees with a mod.
Thank you.
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quote:Serotonin came out of the closet to say:
I preferred the one where he described how he preferred the taste of black mans semen to Pepsi....
It was a poor choice of words but what I said was that I thought pepsi tasted like crap and compared it to semen.
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quote:CrazyHoot came out of the closet to say:
Boy, I never would have thought that someone who is a regular at SA would ever get pissed off by a TruthMedia/Hentai Game/Movie/etc. review. I kind of figured that we all knew the worst parts were being played up to make the article even more interesting.
Clearly, Fire must have some kind of personal investment in this game to defend it so thoroughly. I bet he just bought the rights to the game from Gainax and doesn't want EPG's slander to ruin the sales of the PM4 sequel he plans on making.
What happened was that I made a post that was critical of a mod and everyone (true to tradition) decided to jump on the "SA mods can do no wrong/we dislike fire's DnD posts" bandwagon
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quote:FaaQ came out of the closet to say:
that would indicate that you know what semen tastes like.
Like I said, it was a poor choice of words. Then again your comebacks to it were about as witty as, "I know you are but what am I?"
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quote:Ben came out of the closet to say:
Let's move from criticizing a non-serious article and the mod who wrote it, to criticizing the community, THAT my friends will make me popular.
...not the community. There were many intelegent posts in the thread, just the :krakken:.
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quote:Republicanus came out of the closet to say:
No. Not really. What happened is that you mistook a comedy article on the front page for a serious review. Then you decided to sass. And you disturbed our wa,(that's Japanese for wa-u), here in the Games forum.
I was more than willing to close the thread and set things right once people complained.
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quote:WhiskeyJuvenile came out of the closet to say:
And then EPG wanted to keep it open to make fun of you
and then I defended myself when backed into a corner.
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quote:Calenth came out of the closet to say:
Heh. I feel nothing but pity for any male, that is, person with testicles, who finds themself in the position of defending any game called "princess maker," no matter the cause, even if self-inflicted.
That said, you're being a good sport overall, fire. Posting your own hotornot pic == stepping up to the plate, good man.
That is because I am not ashamed of my own hot or not profile. (not argueing with you)
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quote:FireCar came out of the closet to say:
Or are you my evil twin?</soap opera plotline>
Yes :keke:
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quote:Ferrett came out of the closet to say:
hay guys we haven't heard from stanford in a while, plz confirm he's ok i'm worried thx.
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quote:Wingnut Ninja came out of the closet to say:
I've never seen a post by Fire before. I assumed he was just some lurker who picked an astonishingly bad subject to make his forum debut. Now I hear he's got a history of this kind of thing.
Oh dear.
Don't you post on http://www.shinraonline.com/ ?
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