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Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money
what is everyone's single favorite chop? not chop sequence, one chop

I've never even seen this match but the sound on it is just beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghrTfUPrdI

I know for a fact that the loudest one i've ever heard was in a Suzuki match but I can't for the life of me remember what it was

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Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Jaded Burnout posted:

There's no benefit to continuing to derail this thread so I'm just going to say this. You meant well. Telling me that WWE Network is still pretty much the only legal way to view old matches was useful information. Warning me that WWE Corp is a piece of poo poo was useful information. Everything else was misdirected righteousness and anger that just put me off ever stepping foot in this subforum again. No great loss to you I'm sure, but just take it on board, yeah?

I did mean well when telling you about where to talk about WWE. It sucks trying to talk about WWE in the other threads, and i am very weak in terms of trying to change the tides. at times i do not actually wish to change those tides, but that's beside the point. my real point is that i apologize if you felt attacked by what I said in particular. I wanted to protect you from others, but ended up smothering you. It feels bad

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

Hellblazer187 posted:

Yeah, I am not supporting WWE right now, but during the attitude era I bought every PPV so that's like, at least a decade worth of network subs.

Do we know whether the ownership of NJPW is shitheads or not? I'll probably still subscribe to world anyways but just curious whether we know.

from like chris charlton translations of news snippets and interviews, kidani has been critical of abenomics and pretty much predicted the deleterious consequences of trump and brexit. at one point they let an opposition politician speak at korakuen and criticize abe while wearing a new japan towel. the broke-brained wwe defense squad will try to cancel them for having a swastika on a poster (back when yukes owned them) or for having yakuza ties (baselessly, this is just plain racism) but if they really wanted to concern troll they should come after bushiroad for manufacturing goods with sexualized anime minors on them, though the bushiroad-owned IPs are all pretty wholesome to my knowledge

Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?

:allears: :allears: :allears:

Low Desert Punk posted:

what is everyone's single favorite chop? not chop sequence, one chop

I'll just say every single WALTER chop is its own religious experience for me

and all that earlier theme song chat and not a single person mentioned the best one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJZp6awlL58 RIP

edit: lol just noticed the lyrics in the description

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


The worst thing about Bushiroad would probably be Bushimo (their mobile game publishing subsidiary) using the same predatory microtransaction/loot box practices other mobile game companies use, but that's more a systemic issue with mobile games and not something you can lay at their feet. Otherwise they're just an unassuming CCG maker and media publishing company that happens to own a pro wrestling promotion and a kickboxing league.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

bangdream does have bad ssr rates and no sparking thats true

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I'm putting together the OP for the new thread and am adding a section for how to access various different promotions for viewing. The obvious ones are the WWE Network and New Japan World, as well as AEW's show on TNT, but can people offer some links for other promotions and how to view them, stuff like DDT, Stardom, AAA, CMLL, DragonGate etc - I am putting this all together myself at the moment but I'm sure there are things I will miss.

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Revue Starlight has bad SSR rates as well but it they summoned the Ace so it's all good. Also Bandori is extrememly good

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Gumball Gumption posted:

Because if I went somewhere and said "Hey I want to buy this thing" and someone said "I wouldn't do that, your money is going to end up going to facists" I'd then say "poo poo that sucks but I'm not giving my money to facists. I guess I'll steal it." I'd tell you how to steal from them but I'm pretty sure that's not allowed.

Edit: my intention wasn't to make you feel bad but if I had asked about how to get something and it turns out the company actively made the world a worst place I'd want to know so that I didn't give them money. I'm not judging you for wanting to watch because all that old wrestling is cool as hell and I wasn't a fan as a kid so I had to go back and watch it. I'm also not going to judge you if you do give them money because it's your own personal decision and let's be honest it's just ten bucks. I am judging you for calling it gatekeeping because that's a real bad use of the word and it doesn't mean that you said at all.

You HAVE to be aware of the irony of 'judging someone for calling it gatekeeping' when you're being a textbook example of a gatekeeper, right? Like, even if you're being sincere in your intention, the actual tone of your posts was essentially to tell a new person to piss off if they wanted to watch old WWE/NWA/ECW content because if they do they're contributing to a fascist dictatorship.

If a newbie came into, say, BSS, I wouldn't be leading off with talking about how Ike Perlmutter is a MAGA douchebag so gently caress you if you think about buying an issue of Spider-Man.

Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Sep 8, 2019

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer

Jerusalem posted:

I'm putting together the OP for the new thread and am adding a section for how to access various different promotions for viewing. The obvious ones are the WWE Network and New Japan World, as well as AEW's show on TNT, but can people offer some links for other promotions and how to view them, stuff like DDT, Stardom, AAA, CMLL, DragonGate etc - I am putting this all together myself at the moment but I'm sure there are things I will miss.

USA
Impact - http://twitch.tv/IMPACTwrestling; https://impactplus.tv/ on demand
CHIKARA - https://chikarapro.com/chikaratopia-subscriptions
Ring of Honor - https://www.rohwrestling.com
https://independentwrestling.tv/ - various indies
https://wwnlive.com/shop/wwnlive-shop/?v=7516fd43adaa - various indies
https://www.highspotswrestlingnetwork.com/ - various indies

MEXICO
AAA - https://www.twitch.tv/luchalibreaaa_en, https://www.twitch.tv/luchalibreaaa - you can subscribe to access old events but they're taken down after 60 days
CMLL - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?VideosOficialesCMLL

JAPAN MEN'S PROMOTIONS
DDT - https://www.ddtpro.com/universe
AJPW - https://www.ajpw.tv/
Dragon Gate - https://dragongate.live/
Big Japan - https://bjwcore.com/

JAPAN WOMEN'S PROMOTIONS (JOSHI)
Stardom - https://www.stardom-world.com/
Sendai Girls - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCf2xWDy9jKuJOotYH-vzOjA
Gatoh Move - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UC2HtPsU4U7TNSv2mSbPkj0w
Marvelous - https://freshlive.tv/marvelous
YMZ - https://filmuy.com/ymz
Pro Wrestling Diana - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCiy8qOiSVS8IjTyBD7RT8qg

UK/EUROPE
PROGRESS - https://demandprogress.pivotshare.com/
Over the Top - https://overthetopwrestling.pivotshare.com/
wXw - https://www.wxwnow.com/en

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

Gaz-L posted:

You HAVE to be aware of the irony of 'judging someone for calling it gatekeeping' when you're being a textbook example of a gatekeeper, right?

That's not even close to the textbook definition of gatekeeping but go off I guess

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Gaz-L posted:

You HAVE to be aware of the irony of 'judging someone for calling it gatekeeping' when you're being a textbook example of a gatekeeper, right? Like, even if you're being sincere in your intention, the actual tone of your posts was essentially to tell a new person to piss off if they wanted to watch old WWE/NWA/ECW content because if they do they're contributing to a fascist dictatorship.

If a newbie came into, say, BSS, I wouldn't be leading off with talking about how Ike Perlmutter is a MAGA douchebag so gently caress you if you think about buying an issue of Spider-Man.

I mean my original post until he called it gatekeeping was to say that WWE works with Saudi Arabia. I didn't say gently caress off or say anything judgemental. I stated a fact. He said he was going to do the research and I told him what he would find.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Shutting someone out of a community or experience because they're unaware of a substantial part of it that hardcore fans know? I mean, yes, the part here is how scummy Vince is (but the industry as a WHOLE is just as bad, frankly) but I'd argue that's just as gatekeepery as sniffing at someone not knowing that Ric Flair beat Harley Race to win the NWA title at the first Starrcade.

Edit: I meant this as a response to big black turnout's reply, but I'm just going to say I completely understand why Jaded Burnout reacted as they did, because the whole response to their query was needlessly, and pointlessly aggressive and exactly the reason why so many people don't engage with new things.

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer

Gaz-L posted:

Shutting someone out of a community or experience because they're unaware of a substantial part of it that hardcore fans know? I mean, yes, the part here is how scummy Vince is (but the industry as a WHOLE is just as bad, frankly) but I'd argue that's just as gatekeepery as sniffing at someone not knowing that Ric Flair beat Harley Race to win the NWA title at the first Starrcade.

Edit: I meant this as a response to big black turnout's reply, but I'm just going to say I completely understand why Jaded Burnout reacted as they did, because the whole response to their query was needlessly, and pointlessly aggressive and exactly the reason why so many people don't engage with new things.

spoilers man

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Farewell old thread you lived a long good life and then got weird at the end and we smothered you with a pillow.

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