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Some 900s have mounts on the bumper, I will fabricate my own. Like this 
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Aug 28, 2023 05:50
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Actually I drove to work this morning and it was foggy as all hell. Now I am thinking about how to hook up the lights so that if I turn on the fog light switch, it'll send 12V through a voltage booster and send 24V to the front lights. So I can use the same lamps as both position lamps for regular driving and fog lights for when it's needed. With the same burner. Feeling real clever now.
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Aug 28, 2023 06:57
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His Divine Shadow posted:Some 900s have mounts on the bumper, I will fabricate my own. Meant an electricity socket. I think it's male version of this.  I have one that says HUOMIOVALOT underneath it.
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Aug 28, 2023 09:02
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I haven't seen anything at least. I will be doing my own custom wiring at any rate.
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Aug 28, 2023 09:23
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His Divine Shadow posted:I haven't seen anything at least. I will be doing my own custom wiring at any rate. Was just interested if they still have those. Mine is next to the fusebox.
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Aug 28, 2023 09:27
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I'll have a look around later, be nice to save some effort on the wiring job. Also ignore this 24V doohickery above, I snowed myself in on the 24V lamps. But it would actually be easier to just use the 12V lamps in foglight mode, then use a suitable resistor to reduce the voltage for position lamp mode.
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Aug 28, 2023 11:58
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His Divine Shadow posted:I'll have a look around later, be nice to save some effort on the wiring job. Does the 900 still have that relay that drops the voltage of the headlights to ~6v? Dont know if that would make it easier or harder though.
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Aug 28, 2023 14:45
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I don't know, looked over the fusebox but didn't see nothing about an extra outlet for the front fog lights, nor anything on the text on the lid mentions front fog light fuses. I do remember in the left wheel housing, under the headlight assembly I found a dangling connector that is not hooked up to anything. I should connect a multimeter to it and see if it gives any power when the fog light switch is turned on. Unlikely I think.
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Aug 29, 2023 06:30
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Looking through my workshop manuals and maybe I am not far off, the wiring for factory front fog lights would be going down that path. If so that simplifies things a lot for me.
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Aug 29, 2023 09:55
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Captain Kosmos posted:Meant an electricity socket. I think it's male version of this. Managed to fish the loose connector out without having to remove anything, it does not look like this. And regardless of light configuration no power was sent to the connector, seems entirely inert. Wires are not very thick either so I doubt it's meant to handle much of anything. I also found out I do not have a working fog light in the rear either. And I am not sure which light is supposed to be the one that lights up even. e: I need to see if they power on during reverse, that would be cool if they were leftovers from when saab had front reverse lights. His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Aug 30, 2023 |
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Aug 30, 2023 07:10
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His Divine Shadow posted:Managed to fish the loose connector out without having to remove anything, it does not look like this. And regardless of light configuration no power was sent to the connector, seems entirely inert. Wires are not very thick either so I doubt it's meant to handle much of anything. 900s probably doesn't have that anymore or your's isn't made in Finland. Would guess that's a Finnish specialty. I have old-school DRLs and that socket, so guess I should use it then.  Trying to get the 99 inspected tomorrow, so everyone needs to really focus their energy on it or pray to Satan so it will pass. It's the first time in... uh... +12 years? 
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Aug 30, 2023 10:31
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Oh my 900 is made in Uusikaupunki at the Valmet plant. I checked out it's history carefully, even found a sticker inside the dash with a bunch of info on it. I dunno what else that connector might be for though. They did make a lot of Saabs for the export markets in the valmet plant, so perhaps not impossible for it to be that. Good luck with the inspection
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Aug 30, 2023 10:48
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Time is near my brothers! 10 minutes to the moment! Send all your mental Saab powers to the 99 and let's make this happen!His Divine Shadow posted:Managed to fish the loose connector out without having to remove anything, it does not look like this. And regardless of light configuration no power was sent to the connector, seems entirely inert. Wires are not very thick either so I doubt it's meant to handle much of anything. 
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Aug 31, 2023 08:11
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 From the abyss, Shub-Niggurath's essence births the Saab 99, an eldritch chariot. Inspectors tremble as it arrives at the station—cosmic forces entwined in its metal. Anomaly and enigma, it beckons, a key to unlock existence. Dare you step into the abyss?
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Aug 31, 2023 08:29
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Nope. Rust and handbrake. Nothing too bad, still annoying.
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Aug 31, 2023 09:04
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What a PITA weekend. Got sick, didn't have time to work much on the car. Also have to build a greenhouse with my SO. So one rear light isn't working. I figured out it was because it's simply not hooked up, no wire going to the right connector. I hooked up a wire from the matching left light to the dark light and it works. No idea yet on the rear fog light. Found a crack on the left rear light, gently caress. I haven't even touched that one. The plastic must be so brittle. And the repaired cracks on the right taillight have started leaking in water. Appears they've gotten worse. gently caress. And then the reverse lights stopped working. Fuse is OK, lamps are OK. Just no power going through the wires for the reverse lights. Suspecting the switch. 
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Sep 4, 2023 06:11
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His Divine Shadow posted:And then the reverse lights stopped working. Fuse is OK, lamps are OK. Just no power going through the wires for the reverse lights. Suspecting the switch. I have a broken switch and no power going to the lamps, the switch has 12v on it. Good thing I wanted to double-check if they work when connecting the wires. Really don't want to start going through the wires though. Hopefully, it's a corroded connector. It has been unused since 2012 it has some corrosion on the electorics. It's rear foglight is also not working so hoping they are in the same connector that corroded.
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Sep 4, 2023 07:26
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I'm not sure which light is supposed to be the fog light. Based on the saab manual I can only conclude lol: 7 not pictured. No.6 is also not a brake light on mine as the manual says, it's constantly on. I am suspecting now that the PO has connected things up incorrectly. Turned the brake light into a rear light, put in a smaller bulb. I doubled up his error by doing the same to the right side. I now think that no. 6 is a brake light that doubles as the rear fog light, and is supposed to be dark normally.
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Sep 4, 2023 11:20
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His Divine Shadow posted:I'm not sure which light is supposed to be the fog light. Based on the saab manual I can only conclude lol: Edit, or is backljus reverse light? Captain Kosmos fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Sep 4, 2023 |
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Sep 4, 2023 18:22
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Yeah that's the reverse light I also found this schematic in the 6000 page PDF I got which is how the rear fog lights could be hooked up.  It's so huge it's hard to find what you are looking for some times, atleast it's been OCRed. His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Sep 4, 2023 |
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Sep 4, 2023 18:52
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Also found the rear brakes, they are the same on the lamps  quote:Depending on the model year and market, one or So I think I have gotten to the bottom how it's supposed to work. And I could go the following ways: 1. Disconnect the lights except as fog light on the left side. Boring solution. 2. Connect them both as brake lights instead, more fun solution. 3. Connect them both as brake lights and also as fog lights. Funniest solution. 4. Leave them as 5W rear lights as they are now, easiest solution since this is what I got now. Not sure what they will say at the inspections about that however.
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Sep 5, 2023 06:59
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Help. Considering a 9000 as a winter car.
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Oct 3, 2023 09:19
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I have been told the 9000 is the best and SAABiest model of them all. You should do it so I can live vicariously through your SAAB experience.
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I'm reading a lot of good things about it, though it cannot be the SAABiest, key is in the wrong place, hood opens the wrong way, engine is transverse mounted. But it's a helluva car from what I am reading. The 2.3 Turbo versions in particular. Still I got no extra cash to spare and I need to focus on the 900 for now. Just stamp the urge down for a year or two yet. .. For anyone who understands Swedish, here's some reviews from the venerable Trafikmagasinet show which ran in Sweden for many years, it was a real good show. Unfortunately no subtitles that I can see. It's multiple reviews of the 9000 over the years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDdsfnsJAlw His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Oct 4, 2023 |
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Oct 4, 2023 12:56
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His Divine Shadow posted:Help. Considering a 9000 as a winter car. Do iiiiiiiiiiit. Here's some photos of my first car ('91 9000) in it's natural habitat 20+ years ago. Which is totally not a sign you should get a 9000 for the winter.        I loved that car, it was a tank in the snow. I ended up donating to a local Saab mechanic a few years later who told me he was going to part it out "so that other Saabs may live". JayKay fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 00:52
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I just took my 900 off the road, its now in "sleep mode" until spring. Driving my Yaris diesel now and boy it feels weird. I do have a lot more leg room in the Saab, naturally. I'm 6'2" so the Yaris is right about at my limit. But I am noticing how it differs, the yaris overall requires less muscle power. The gears are super easy to swap around compared to the 900 and the clutch requires less force to engage, and the power steering feels superpowered in comparison. I had to relearn some muscle memories there. I do think the 900 needs all new servo fluid and a good flush of all the old blackish fluid. Reservoir is a bit low as is, so I don't think the power steering is at it's best right now. But it's a car that needs more muscles, everything abou the 900 feels like it has heft and weight to it, despite it being the same weight as the Yaris. If I want a 9000 to replace the Yaris I will have to fix up the worst spots on this one so I can get something (anything) for it. It's dented and rough looking, bubbling rust spots on the roof too near the windshield
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Oct 5, 2023 07:27
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Buy the 9000. It'll break you.
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There was a dang 97' 9000 CSE in Seattle for a grand, running. Missed out on it, but a red aero is absolutely a Saab I'll own before I die (maybe).
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Mcqueen posted:There was a dang 97' 9000 CSE in Seattle for a grand, running. Same year as my 9000; Completely worn out. Balance shaft literally wore it's way clear. Would not recommend. I'll take an '08 Lynx.
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The 9000 is the last model Saab I could consider owning personally. The latter models hold no interest for me. I am personally reading a lot of good stuff about the last models of the 9000 with 2.3 turbo so that would be the model I would look out for, even though the pre-face lift 9000s look nicer I want the latter models with trionic and higher gearing for better mileage. But I'm gonna focus on the 900 for a while yet, finish one thing before starting another.
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Mcqueen posted:There was a dang 97' 9000 CSE in Seattle for a grand, running. Forgot to mention: there's a '72 99 about an hour away for me for a bit over a grand. It's purple, though. If it was a '78 99 Turbo, I'd kick an '08 out of the garage for it.
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I think the newer gen 9000 selling point for me was being a dumbass kid showing up to some car meet and seeing a 9000 with a giant holset...hx35(?) strapped to it, no intercooler, no nothing and it being at the time the fastest car I'd have ever been in...for 3 minutes at a time until it overheated. Besides that, and that they embody a certain early 90's aesthetic, I'd have no reason to own one. A 99 in any condition would rate higher for me. I missed out on a reasonably rusty one in Portland...blue I think, almost a year ago now. Garage is full or I'd be looking harder.
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I'm looking for a car I could reliably use year round in a practical manner however. So it puts certain requirements on practicality and economics and safety. The 900 is drat good as a winter driver actually, helluva good handling and winterization features IMO. But I feel it's not economical enough on the fuel consumption front IMO. But safety is the bigger issue. It's very a safe car for it's era but I don't feel entirely good about driving my kids in it during wintertime. And of course the salt. The drat salt! I care about this car too much to expose it to salt, even with anti corrosion treatments. Now the 9000 is a much safer a car, and the latest model years with the 2.3 Turbo is actually a lot more economical due to higher gearing and trionic system. I am reading a fuel consumption thread on a finnish saab forum and lots of 9000 drivers reporting mileage of 32-38 mpg on long straight drives. Which describes my commute perfectly. Safety wise the 9000 is impressive for its age, when it was new it was world class but in 2017 swedish insurance company Folksam compiled a huge database of crash statistics and found the 9000 was still an above average car by 2017 safety wise. So I think the 9000 is still good enough to ride around in with a good conscience in winter. And the 9000 seems to still be a simple enough car to be a car that I can maintain myself at home like my 900.
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Also I'm considering installing an 8.8 primary in the 900. There's a dude in sweden making an 8.5 and 8.8 primary kit for 900s. With this I should get a smoother ride (no more jerkiness in lower gears and when easing up the throttle) and better mileage.
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Oct 12, 2023 06:59
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Also, phrasing: I bet they thought about phrasing long and hard. Even the license plate fits.
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Mcqueen posted:A 99 in any condition would rate higher for me. I missed out on a reasonably rusty one in Portland...blue I think, almost a year ago now. Garage is full or I'd be looking harder. This one's got the option of also a few rolling chassis and lots of core parts, but same.
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Good news for Saab classic owners! https://carup.se/saabar-raddas-delar-borjar-tillverkas-i-trollhattan-igen/ Google translated article text: quote:Now old Saabs are to be saved with newly manufactured parts. New production of Saab parts is started in the old Saab factory at Stallbacka in Trollhättan.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Good news for Saab classic owners! 
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Saabs have had a reputation as safe cars. But here's evidence that shatters this claim.
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I bought a Saab. Or a third of one anyway. It's a 1998 Saab 9-3 with around 330 000 kms and no service history. Good summer tires on OEM alloy wheels as well. We bought it to participate in a cheap car endurance race next summer. It also has a small oil and coolant leak and apparently the thermostat is failing as well. We have about $100 left on parts so oil change, filter and plugs and replacing dashboard backlight are in order when it's warm enough to work on it outside. What we have left after that goes to looking the electric mirror controls which do not seem to work and checking if the a/c can hold a charge. About the a/c compressor: should the magnetic clutch kick in even in sub-zero temperature? When we were testdriving it it was around -10 C and we did not hear any noise from the compressor when trying to turn it on or off. It also might be out of charge.
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