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Baronjutter posted:Nah, beth's defining character trait is being crazy obsessed with her dad leaving her and willing to sacrifice her entire family for his approval and security. If Morty and Summer were all "it's either grandpa or us" it would be no question either. Jerry and the kids would be moving out and Beth would drown out the feelings in wine and the comfort of knowing her dad didn't abandon her for one more day. She's hosed, she's maybe even more pathetic than Jerry she just hides it better. Morty means well but is actually retarded or something. Summer is the only hope. She might be a lovely mum, but I don't think she'd sacrifice her children for Rick. Then again, I know Dan has a somewhat bitter relationship with his parents so maybe I'm wrong. Last Chance posted:I liked that Mr. Goldenfold was leading the sewer people back to Surface World near the end lol Haha, yeah, I noticed that too. He always falls into a leader role and I'm sure he's gonna spin Rick's success into something he can take advantage of.
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Last Chance posted:I liked that Mr. Goldenfold was leading the sewer people back to Surface World near the end lol When confronted with plane terrorists, this is a guy who fights back, not somebody who meekly cowers in fear.
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Baronjutter posted:She's hosed, she's maybe even more pathetic than Jerry she just hides it better. Oh she's definitely more pathetic than Jerry, she's an insecure enabler and I'm hoping that side of her is explored more this season. It'd be funny if it turns out that divorcing Beth really is the best thing that happened to Jerry. Throughout the season his life just keeps getting better and better and her life just gets worse and worse.
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fantastic episode that i was laughing the whole way through but i think my favorite line was "no i don't want to see your pog collection" of all things
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In case anybody was wondering about timing, they're about to start the Wedding Squanchers, so the new episode should be on right after that.
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I have re-watched this episode 10 times by now. I'm not afraid to admit this. We'll have this and new GoT episodes this Summer!!
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El Jeffe posted:The part in Rick's "tragic backstory" where his family dies was actually true Doubtful. Rick himself said that it was made up and could be made up on account of it being a fabrication inside the Shoney's. But you know what was outside the Shoney's?  His wife leaving him and taking Beth with her.
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Apr 2, 2017 21:12
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That scene was too hackneyed for Richard Sanchez.
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Apr 2, 2017 21:30
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The season 2 opener was kind of lacking, so I didn't have huge expectations this time around, but that was legitimately cool and fun stuff. This is a pretty strong start.
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basic hitler posted:The season 2 opener was kind of lacking, so I didn't have huge expectations this time around, but that was legitimately cool and fun stuff. This is a pretty strong start. Trust me, ish is about to get absolutely fuckawesome.
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Apr 2, 2017 21:34
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Did anyone hear what Rick was saying while watching 9/11 on the tv?
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It might prove somewhat minor, but the Council of Ricks being destroyed impacts things inter-dimensionally, while the fall of the Galactic Federation is presumably localized to the current dimension. Maybe more in the category of "don't think about it" than potential plot thread, but I'm not sure they've completely closed the book on the Galactic Federation (beyond any Tammy stuff, of course). Whereas the Council of Ricks is basically rubble at this point.
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Apr 2, 2017 21:39
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Hemingway To Go! posted:Things go "too perfectly" for rick all the drat time, milking drama out of Earth being taken over and Beth and Summer crying over Rick being missing for multiple episodes isn't the kind of show that this is and the status quo of Rick being revealed as both unstoppable and a real piece of poo poo and Jerry off doing something else is far more likely. Yeah I think the funny thing is that for all the sci-fi and action elements none of that stuff every *really* poses a threat to Rick - he can always get through it. What really endangers Rick are his emotional hang-ups: the Unity episode, his conflicted attachment to his grandkids and family, even jealousy like with the Stephen Colbert episode.
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Megaspel posted:She might be a lovely mum, but I don't think she'd sacrifice her children for Rick. Then again, I know Dan has a somewhat bitter relationship with his parents so maybe I'm wrong. Nah I think you're right. Like Rick said at the end, she wouldn't have accepted him if he had returned without Morty and Summer.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Doubtful. Rick himself said that it was made up Rick says a lot of things. The fact that young Beth is there (in the "origin story" part) means that at least some of it was from memory and not imagination. My thought is that most of that part was made-up, especially the formula, but his family dying really happened which set in motion his dimension-hopping years.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Doubtful. Rick himself said that it was made up and could be made up on account of it being a fabrication inside the Shoney's. That's actually very interesting because it parallels what happened to Jerry at the end of the episode.
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Evil Morty can be spotted hiding in the background during the Galactic Fed / Ricks showdown.
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Milovan Drecun posted:It might prove somewhat minor, but the Council of Ricks being destroyed impacts things inter-dimensionally, while the fall of the Galactic Federation is presumably localized to the current dimension. Maybe more in the category of "don't think about it" than potential plot thread, but I'm not sure they've completely closed the book on the Galactic Federation (beyond any Tammy stuff, of course). Whereas the Council of Ricks is basically rubble at this point. Yeah, it took the destruction of a lot of Ricks from tons of dimensions to destroy the central government of just one dimension. Even if they were mostly adversaries, the Council was potentially able to help Rick. Now he doesn't have that support. ... Do you think Tammy did that thing because she had some actual feelings, or is it all about psychological warfare?
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prefect posted:psychological warfare? Considering Bird Person was one of Rick's best friends, more likely this.
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El Jeffe posted:Rick says a lot of things. The fact that young Beth is there (in the "origin story" part) means that at least some of it was from memory and not imagination. My thought is that most of that part was made-up, especially the formula, but his family dying really happened which set in motion his dimension-hopping years. The way the show's setup I feel it's equally likely that his fake backstory is similar to his actual backstory, or that it was completely made-up and Beth's actually just a clone or something. prefect posted:Yeah, it took the destruction of a lot of Ricks from tons of dimensions to destroy the central government of just one dimension. Even if they were mostly adversaries, the Council was potentially able to help Rick. Now he doesn't have that support. That was only because Seal Team Rick hosed up his original plan/him also then wanting to gently caress them over for doing that.
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So if the federation is destroyed because you can't trust fiat currency buy gold or check out bitcoins people, who's funding and paying for phoenix person and Tammy's lab and all that?
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Milovan Drecun posted:It might prove somewhat minor, but the Council of Ricks being destroyed impacts things inter-dimensionally, while the fall of the Galactic Federation is presumably localized to the current dimension. Maybe more in the category of "don't think about it" than potential plot thread, but I'm not sure they've completely closed the book on the Galactic Federation (beyond any Tammy stuff, of course). Whereas the Council of Ricks is basically rubble at this point. If there's an infinite number of dimensions and infinite number of Ricks then logically there's either an infinite number of Councils of Rick or the Council has an infinite number of members. So really they can show up again whenever it's funny to do so. But the infinite number of Ricks might have been Rick just talking poo poo so who knows.
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Why does Rick accuse Jerry of betraying him to the galactic federation, when Rick turned himself under the guise of Jerry? Rick obviously cares deeply about actual acts of betrayal (Gearhead, Mr. Needful), so I don't know why he'd accuse Jerry of such when it'd be unnecessary and somewhat out of character? I mean, Jerry has never been a patriarch. That's why there's an interdimensional daycare center devoted to his infinite selves.
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Jove posted:Why does Rick accuse Jerry of betraying him to the galactic federation, when Rick turned himself under the guise of Jerry? Rick obviously cares deeply about actual acts of betrayal (Gearhead, Mr. Needful), so I don't know why he'd accuse Jerry of such when it'd be unnecessary and somewhat out of character? Jerry was planning on turning him in, which Rick overheard and made him want to turn himself in first. If he hadn't turned himself in, Jerry would have gotten him thrown in jail anyway.
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Jove posted:Evil Morty can be spotted hiding in the background during the Galactic Fed / Ricks showdown. Do you have an image or time stamp? I'm not seeing it.
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Jove posted:Evil Morty can be spotted hiding in the background during the Galactic Fed / Ricks showdown. How could you tell? He threw away his eyepatch last time we saw him, and other than that, he looks like most other Morties.
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prefect posted:How could you tell? He threw away his eyepatch last time we saw him, and other than that, he looks like most other Morties. That's just what he wants you to think. Sucker.
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Kingtheninja posted:Well they're doing that live action Mulan soon, I would say that's your best chance at seeing it come back. If you click the link that's the whole point 
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Baronjutter posted:Morty means well but is actually retarded or something. Summer is the only hope. My favorite part of the episode was when Morty points the gun at Rick and he's like "dude, I actually do care about Summer but he was falling for it!" and the other Rick is like "hahahaha oh man I totally was! You hosed up everything Morty!"
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My fav side moment had to be the employee of the month. Like, seriously, there's utter chaos and mayhem everywhere, the most wanted escaped criminal is at the terminal that can destroy your civilization and instead of just shooting him, you yell: "Freeze!"
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In the fabricated backstory, Diane is wearing a wedding ring but Rick isn't. Probably means little to nothing. There was some sparse discussion relating to this over a few pages and I've wanted to write about this for a while, so I'll just spew: Funny thing about 'infinite Ricks' is there would then be infinite rogues too. That's how infinities work. The only way you get finite rogues (meaning, nearly or just, one) is finite Ricks. This falls in line with the idea of a deterministic universe where a bunch of planck length related bullshit comes in to describe the minimum amount of difference between one universe and the next, that being just one existential 'bit' of information that differs between thusly adjacent universes at or near the very moment of the big bang. The maximum is then how many 'bits' can be different before things are too fundamentally different to still produce a Rick. It's like procedural generation, where if you stray too far then things get weird (Hammer Morty being out on the fringe, for example), but you have to change the seed by at least one bit to get a different version. This falls in line with Rick mentioning that they only get two or three more 'bailouts' to similar enough universes where their compatriots have died; this implies the universes that contain Rick, the universes similar enough to drop into, and the universes where Rick and/or Morty have died are all finite, and so all universes are finite. The numbers are still obscenely large of course. "Infinite realities... well not really but I just don't feel like explaining entropy at universal genesis to you." is a very Rickish reasoning. Another idea is that Ricks are truly infinite, but the sole rogues are a centerpoint of clusters of them.
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Ranzear posted:In the fabricated backstory, Diane is wearing a wedding ring but Rick isn't. Probably means little to nothing. Yea but how many half-a press ricks are there?
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