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Cardiovorax posted:That's not the same. photomikey posted:can you post a screen shot of how the camera is pointed? It must be aside the student, right, if you can see the monitor and the student at the same time?  Tony Montana posted:If you look at the courses he is taking exams for above, it's more clear why this approach is economically viable.
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I work with a university's in-house test proctoring department for their own online classes that want to do monitored tests in person, and they've had some debate with higher ups about whether they're a better option than contracting an online service like ProctorU. So serious brick and mortar institutions, not just University of Phoenix, are considering using services like this to save money. That being said, a lot of the specific criticisms of online proctoring from this thread have also been brought up by the in-house department.
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Oct 29, 2014 06:06
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Turtlicious posted:They have to show us the webcam with a mirror.
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Oct 29, 2014 06:56
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Cardiovorax posted:Dammit. I suck at cheating. I would think the constant eye-glances toward the camera would raise suspicion also.
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Kellsterik posted:I work with a university's in-house test proctoring department for their own online classes that want to do monitored tests in person, and they've had some debate with higher ups about whether they're a better option than contracting an online service like ProctorU. So serious brick and mortar institutions, not just University of Phoenix, are considering using services like this to save money. Well, if you notice the only one I can think of that could be taken seriously was the router forwarding thing, as I'm not 100% sure there is a way to detect that client side, which would mean they'd be able to re-direct data, though I'm pretty sure if they use a secure browser. ProctorU, another company, works really well when it comes to volume, in fact they are the only company right now besides I think Kryterion that can handle the volume a major institution would want to put out.
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Cardiovorax posted:Dammit. I suck at cheating. It's not necessarily that you think of cheating, it's that we have a lot of people who try cheating, and so we update our methods when we catch something new. Also there are two kinds of cheating, lots of people try to sneak in notes or extra info, or answer sheets into the exam. These can be prevented pretty easily, and doesn't really hurt anyone except for themselves. It does stem from a much larger, shittier kind of cheating. Which is when people try to sneak the questions out. The reason the first guy has the answers to the exam, is because there was a guy before him who was able to get the questions out and google the answers. This really is the biggest thing we try to avoid, because if they don't know the questions before they see them, the best they can come in with is some notes. For those notes to be effective they have to have a lot of information, which means they have to be large. I did have a guy with a note-card using type 4 font and a magnifying glass (he was allowed a 3x5 notecard with notes.) It was kind of funny, but I had to reach out to an institution, and his teacher eventually allowed it.
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The port mirroring on a switch/router thing would absolutely be undetectable, and would result in the person taking the exam having a full copy of everything - both the questions on the exam, and the answers they gave. As well as any software communication back to your location that could be analysed later to determine the methods you use to detect cheating. You would need someone that knows a hell of a lot about networking to make it happen, but someone who runs one of those "pay for the questions and answers" sites could easily do it. You could encrypt all the traffic (and I'm sure you do), but the key has to reside in memory on the local computer, and could be pulled after the exam. Edit: I also doubt that you could detect a properly sandboxed VM. KillHour fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Nov 19, 2014 18:39
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No one who knows that much about networking and virtualization are going to be taking these tests in the first place. I'd expect them working in I.T somewhere making good money. I can think of an easier method to get around it would just require a second person, hidden earbuds and a hidden webcam. Simple enough. Still effort which knowing cheaters wouldn't be worth the cost or trouble. 1 in a 1000 if that. I'm surprised how creepy people are with this and then I'm not. Hope those people failed out and didn't finish whatever degree they were pissing on.
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Nov 19, 2014 21:33
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have you ever caught someone who has tattooed the answers on the inside of their eyelids?
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Nov 20, 2014 18:14
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Do you work from home or do you go into an office to do this? Do you have a set schedule, or can you jump in and grab exams to proctor from a pool or something?
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DropsySufferer posted:No one who knows that much about networking and virtualization are going to be taking these tests in the first place. I'd expect them working in I.T somewhere making good money. Yes, making good money for test prep companies.
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