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well it was just s'okay but the writing and characterization was cool. like a good fantasy novel turned into an okay videogame. Raziel is like the biggest mary sue but is an adorably retarded prick despite it. supposedly Amy Hennig is working for ea now, rip shits basically irrelevant now but it's okay to like old things, there used to be a lok smiley but it appears to be gone
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I have all of the games, which should I start with? Or I guess what order do I play them in. Also any tips for getting maximum enjoyment out of it?
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Jan 19, 2015 08:37
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Each game was unfinished, sometimes massively, and I think the writers got weirded out by the amount of slash fiction there was about raziel and kain.
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Jan 19, 2015 08:40
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MarioTeachesWiping posted:I have all of the games, which should I start with? gently caress off with your long rear end custom text thread ruining homo
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Jan 19, 2015 08:40
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Just s'okay is probably one of the worst things I've ever seen written by someone. gently caress you OP. Topic locked.
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Jan 19, 2015 08:59
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most of the games work by themselves (sr2 is pretty heavy on exposition tho) so whatever order works but Defiance goes last, it might be best to skip blood omen 2 cause it was bad. a different company made it and a character who was literally decapitated comes back for no reason, the main series writer (who didn't write bo2) had to bust out parallel timelines to save faceDoctor Goat posted:I think the writers got weirded out by the amount of slash fiction there was about raziel and kain. Wormskull posted:Just s'okay is probably one of the worst things I've ever seen written by someone. gently caress you OP. Topic locked. 
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Jan 19, 2015 09:11
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MarioTeachesWiping posted:I have all of the games, which should I start with? I'm only playing for the fun 3D gameplay: Soul Reaver --> Soul Reaver 2 --> Defiance I care about the plot and I have something I can sculpt in between PS1 loading times also I'm fine with 640x480 games: Blood Omen --> Soul Reaver --> Soul Reaver 2 --> Defiance I'll play anything --> Blood Omen --> Soul Reaver --> Soul Reaver 2 --> Blood Omen 2 --> Defiance
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Jan 19, 2015 09:45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwikcy0mllg
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Jan 19, 2015 10:33
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i enjoyed and played the first one on the PS1. i never played the rest. i feel thats enough to have done the series justice as that raziel guy wants to be kain and everything more but he's not. he's worse than raiden from mgs2 (not revengeance)
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Jan 19, 2015 11:41
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He just wants to murk Kain because Kain was a shithead. The original ending was funny since it was just "Raziel kills every vampire ever" And then you play SR2 and it just gets weird but sort of cool and then Defiance just made me go "gently caress this"
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Jan 19, 2015 12:15
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The only one of these I remeber very well was the one where you are kain and you eat homeless people to heal.
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Jan 19, 2015 13:06
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Chucat posted:He just wants to murk Kain because Kain was a shithead. The original ending was funny since it was just "Raziel kills every vampire ever" i like kain being a shithead. its nice to play a protagonist whos not good and doesnt claim to be.
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Jan 19, 2015 13:40
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i played the one on dreamcast and it was pretty good but it had some bullshit puzzle stuff in it. story was cool though. i think it was soul reaver the one where you are a blue vampire and kain cut your wings off
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Jan 19, 2015 14:07
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I sucked at those games but I still enjoyed them. I remember some bullshit 3D platforming segments that enraged me to no end.
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Jan 19, 2015 14:07
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VideoGames posted:i like kain being a shithead. its nice to play a protagonist whos not good and doesnt claim to be. I like Kain being a shithead I'm just saying Raziel's motivation was he hates shitheads (namely shitheads who throw him into acid baths for growing fancy wings)
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Jan 19, 2015 15:33
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orignal blood omen is pure ownage. they should do a hd remake for pc and mobile devices imo
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i thought kain was just a dick until i remembered he was a medieval noble before getting snacked on. he's still a dick but that explains why he's got hella pride and all i forgot how weird the plot was and it owns, thanks for reminding me
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Jan 19, 2015 17:28
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i really liked the voice acting :3
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Jan 19, 2015 18:27
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Das Butterbrot posted:orignal blood omen is pure ownage. they should do a hd remake for pc and mobile devices imo its available on psn
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Wormskull posted:Just s'okay is probably one of the worst things I've ever seen written by someone. gently caress you OP. Topic locked.
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Jan 19, 2015 18:46
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the voice acting was pretty good
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Jan 19, 2015 19:30
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SombereroLad posted:i really liked the voice acting :3 The cool bit about those games is seeing what other things the VAs are in.
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Chucat posted:The cool bit about those games is seeing what other things the VAs are in. Anna Gunn went from playing a ghost with a half-eaten face to a main character on a popular TV show who was constantly loathed by goony goons.
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Jan 19, 2015 22:01
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Blood Omen is great for that old school isometric action. I feel its aged the best overall and yet Soul Reaver is a solid game. But, play the DC version.
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Here are my thoughts on the games: Blood Omen is a very weird game. It's Zelda-ish with a convoluted plot and world, but the actual storytelling is very obtuse and the action is shonky and unbalanced as hell. The main difficulty in the game (particularly in later bits) is having the patience to sit around long enough for your mana to slowly regenerate so you can murder everything with spells. However, it does have a huge game world and lots of stuff to pick up - far more than any of the other games below. Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver was great and probably the best in the series. Raziel was an interesting protagonist with (especially at the time) very unique powers and facing enemies that require unique methods to kill them. Its main failing was that it sort of FEELS unfinished - like there was supposed to be more to it than there was. Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2 improved on Legacy of Kain in terms of graphics and really intensely focused on storytelling. However, the environments got smaller and a lot of the gameplay mechanics from the first Legacy of Kain got stripped out, including the need to kill enemies with unique methods. It's an almost entirely linear experience - no sidequests, little in the way of power-ups, no real boss battles and relatively few (and small) environments. The story was insane in a good way. Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2 is a mess. It somehow looks worse than Soul Reaver 2 and the plot has weak connections to the franchise (ie: see a definitely dead character showing up with no explanation because someone forgot to read the source material). Gameplay-wise there's more game in there than in Soul Reaver 2, but overall it's relatively simplistic combat and exploring. At least there are some power-ups. Legacy of Kain: Defiance is a bit of a disappointment. It alternates between Kain and Raziel, but the two characters handle almost exactly the same - a wasted opportunity to really differentiate the two. Kain's levels tend to be more combat-heavy and Raziel's more puzzle/platforming-centric. Combat is re-vamped and made to look 'spectacular', but in doing so also becomes ludicrously comic, with unreasonably long air-combos becoming the norm. The platforming often felt tedious (partially due to the fixed-perspective camera) and there are a LOT of repeated environments. The storyline was obviously designed to close a major chapter while still leaving an opening for a continuation. Unfortunately this continuation isn't likely so the ending feels a little hollow, though not totally unsatisfying. If I had to rate them, I'd say Soul Reaver 1 > Blood Omen 1 > Soul Reaver 2 > Defiance > Blood Omen 2. Thank you for reading my review.
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Jan 20, 2015 02:30
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I actually played bits and pieces of all these games and only the original Legacy of Kain was any good. Anyway, that's my story.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Anna Gunn went from playing a ghost with a half-eaten face to a main character on a popular TV show who was constantly loathed by goony goons. She actually went from Seinfeld's onetime girlfriend that George mistook a police woman kissing a horse for to whatever dumb poo poo you're talking about.
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Jan 20, 2015 03:43
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VAE VICTUS
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Soul Reaver posted:
ty for sharing. sr2 is my favorite videogame story, which is embarassing but w/e. I could go on about how player and player-character perspective are just perfectly consonant with raziel but  . in terms of pure gameplay blood omen 1 holds up the best.also rip megabyte
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Thank you for reading my review.
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Soul Reaver posted:Here are my thoughts on the games: You are welcome. Thank you for the effortpost on Soul Reaver, Soul Reaver.
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SombereroLad posted:i really liked the voice acting :3 RIP tony jay
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Jan 20, 2015 12:31
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Legacy of Gay: Taint Reaper
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fun fact: soul reaver was originally going to be a different game called Shifter until higher ups said "hey we got the rights to this franchise, make a legacy of kain game now" and it turned out okay. Then when the game was mostly done higher ups said "hey we're gonna make more of these so change the ending" and a ton of poo poo got changed. PSM back in the day had detailed strats and poo poo on the unreleased version, strategies for bosses and getting all the elemental reavers and stuff. A lot of games have cut content but it's super-obvious that agme is incomplete, it's even missing a boss (three bosses, actually)! I saw a Rahab clan symbol in the game Knock Knock, by icepick lodge. Someone over there likes that poo poo 
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