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scala is dead
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triple sulk posted:scala is dead
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:22 |
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scala? i hardly know a'!!!
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:23 |
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The Management posted:java is a decent language but everything else in the Java ecosystem, from IDE to servers, stacks, and runtimes are all huge piles of garbage. the coders are garbage, too. on the contrary, java is a merely ok language supported by the best ecosystem in existence. the best ides, the best servers, the best stacks, and the best management tools
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:33 |
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Plastic Snake posted:I don't know why you'd ever use Java ee these days. spring is good rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:the jsf spec is literally drool and poop smears on paper a few years ago i went to a panel discussion where the whole panel was people on the java ee steering committee they expressed essentially these same opinions. not even java ee's standards committee is happy with java ee. and every panel member expressed straight-up hatred for jsf
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:34 |
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Doctor Goat posted:i took c# and java last semester and i have no reason to ever want touch java again Maximum Leader posted:im doing wildfly, it seems kind of gay tbh. i have no idea what a stateless bean is but i power through and hopefully will create a passable project somehow. this is where java hate comes from kids who don't know their rear end from their elbow are tossed into circa-2002 enterprise java bean hell by teachers who have never worked in the field professionally, and they come away thinking java is poo poo because they have nfc what they were doing and it all sucked
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:37 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a few years ago i went to a panel discussion where the whole panel was people on the java ee steering committee i don't understand why the whole java ee wheel keeps spinning. like, who is driving its continued existence??
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:39 |
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teh enterprise
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:41 |
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:i don't understand why the whole java ee wheel keeps spinning. like, who is driving its continued existence?? it's not really spinning anymore. historically java ee was driven by/for "middleware" vendors, who sold libraries + app servers that were supposedly essential. nowadays it just standardizes pre-existing open source APIs, making them mandatory for middleware vendors to ship. e.g. if you want to be "java ee 8" compliant, you will find yourself needing to ship spring mvc, or a really close clone of it. ....if java ee 8 ever ships. it very well might not. and even if it does, there might not be an ee 9.x. open source has become such a big deal in java-land, java ee and middleware are fading from relevance.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:44 |
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send more java
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:45 |
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good and cool stuff is happening in java open source all the time. the java standardization effort is cranking along just fine. JSRs and the JCP are in fine shape. it's just java EE isn't very important anymore. that's ok with me.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:46 |
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go will kill java
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:47 |
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the jcp is pretty good and even though nobody anywhere has ever needed java ee everyone has used parts of java ee.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:48 |
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pram posted:go will kill java lol
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:48 |
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please provide a source for this hilariously earnest appeal to yospos to use noted garbage language scala
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:52 |
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Shaggar posted:lol
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:54 |
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cool stuff written in go: docker cool stuff written in java: none lol its all poo poo people hate using
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 01:56 |
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writing java code makes you a living. what does writing go get you? a featured stackoverflow question maybe
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:00 |
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and writing half assed django school projects makes u valeyard
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:01 |
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is there really a point to java now when we have .net though?
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:03 |
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no. and theres no point to .net now that we have go
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:04 |
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Other companies and sites using Go: º MongoDB
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:10 |
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pram posted:cool stuff written in go: docker Also everything that allows them to actually manufacture your Mac computer is in Java
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:12 |
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oh yeah i forgot people love using oracle ebso and fusion
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:14 |
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*signs million dollar licensing check with cheery smile*
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:15 |
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durrrr did u know, poo poo enterprise software is in java - fuckin retard
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:18 |
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PleasingFungus posted:
this post was very pleasing
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:21 |
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this time it's definitely the year of functional languages on the
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 02:46 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:this is where java hate comes from it's kind of inevitable because schoolwork will mostly have you rewriting things that already exist, and java is tedious for everything except stringing prewritten libraries together
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 03:29 |
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project lombok seems cool. i feel like there are hidden reasons why i'll regret using it though
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 03:44 |
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Flat Daddy posted:project lombok seems cool. i feel like there are hidden reasons why i'll regret using it though afaik lombok is dead. the goal was to develop an interest group that could move the jcp towards including the new features in the core language. that didn't happen. now lombok has no purpose if you want cool extensions to java, look to high-interoperability alternative languages: scala, groovy, kotlin. all three take pains to be java compatible, but give you new capabilities.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 03:49 |
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how mature is kotlin? it looks like it hits pretty much all the good bits from scala without being nearly as prone to being totally abused
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 05:20 |
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Scala is the fixed gear bicycle of programming languages.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 05:36 |
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lol as if scala is that straightforward
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 05:44 |
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Flat Daddy posted:project lombok seems cool. i feel like there are hidden reasons why i'll regret using it though this but lomarf
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