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Bonus: Abyssal God with no subclasses. REALLY don't try this one at home! It took over 50 attempts. Turns out when you don't have access to subclassing, your options diminish greatly!
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Dr. Fetus posted:Bonus: Abyssal God with no subclasses. 
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Nov 6, 2017 20:05
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Great job on this LP. It was fun to read, informative and well-written. This is probably me favorite screen-shot LP.
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Nov 6, 2017 20:17
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Yeah, subclasses really made this game into a giant pick-n-mix. I'm amazed it held together as well as it did.
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Nov 6, 2017 20:57
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Your next LP should be EO5.
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Nov 6, 2017 21:15
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Ubiquitous_ posted:Your next LP should be EO5. You might like this then. edit: wow, the things i screw up while phone posting Thank you Fetus for finishing a good LP of a good game despite the curse's efforts. 
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Nov 6, 2017 21:22
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I can't believe Let's Play EO3 is loving dead.
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Nov 6, 2017 22:20
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Ubiquitous_ posted:Your next LP should be EO5. As Level Seven pointed out, not only did I do that already, but I just posted the final update for it. alcharagia posted:I can't believe Let's Play EO3 is loving dead.
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Nov 6, 2017 22:43
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You must really hate this boss.  werbear posted:but of all the kills you have shown this last one is my favorite - using Knighthood to turn the Abyssal God's input reads against it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7N1ZqKZ50 alcharagia posted:I can't believe Let's Play EO3 is loving dead. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Nov 7, 2017 |
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Nov 6, 2017 22:55
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I've been going over the Abyssal God's AI and skills with my brother who's never played an EO game, and he's ruled out that the only way to actually beat this boss is to set the game cartridge on fire. And here you are with six different victories. Calling you an evil genius would be an understatement. Thank you for the fantastic LP and making sure I didn't have to suffer through this postgame on my own to see the end. In the right situations, I might have actually wanted to fight the Abyssal God, but that's way too much BS for me to handle. alcharagia posted:I can't believe Let's Play EO3 is loving dead.
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Nov 7, 2017 00:35
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Don't let Abyssal God put you off the game. EO3 is fantastic, it has flaws but every EO does and 3's are the least damning of any of the DS games. It's only the 6th stratum where it goes into bullshit design and even then it's mainly in the last half of the stratum.
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Nov 7, 2017 01:57
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Fetus, seriously, what the gently caress is wrong with you?! But all in all a good LP in the can, looking forward to re-reading it on the archives 
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Nov 10, 2017 06:20
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Oh man I didn't realize this came back. The Knighthood exploit was pretty brilliant, there. Seeing these kind of narrative playthroughs is what got me to finish EO3 in the first place, and has kept me playing the series to date, even if I'm not the best at them. Congratulations!
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Nov 12, 2017 00:15
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Efe posted:Now that you've finally dealt with the Deep Princess, I can tell my story of how I cheesed the everloving gently caress out of that boss without even knowing what I was doing. Well for reference, here's the Deep Princess' AI. Deep Princess' AI posted:Cast Thin Ice on the 1st turn. (Standard targeting.) (Yes, she has a bunch of routines that are completely inaccessible due to Ocean Drop. I wonder if that was a later addition and the fight was meant to be paced differently.) If you had her HP below 51%, and you had 6 or more buffs on the party while no one was confused, she would been casting Sweet Song constantly. Except this can very easily be countered by casting Prevent Order on both rows, or having Regroup Tactic up, which means that she would be trapped in an AI lock.  Alternatively, you could just give everyone Confusion resistance accessories while having 6 or more buffs on everyone. (However, the 50% resistance ones are locked off until Stratum 6, so 90% resistance is the best you can get here.) If that wasn't the case, she had plenty of other opportunities to cast it, especially if you were spamming Anticold or Ice Prophecy, since she does input read.If none of those cases happened, then I have absolutely no idea what you did to pull that off. Also just keeping this out of archives for now while I keep on correcting info and cleaning up the LP before I can even think of sending it off for archiving. It turns out that there was a lot I got wrong, and need to correct.  On the plus side, I get to see hilarious AI locks like this, so it's not all too bad.
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Jan 9, 2018 22:48
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You did a great job dude, you're being way too hard on yourself 
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Jan 9, 2018 23:07
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Dr. Fetus posted:Well for reference, here's the Deep Princess' AI. Is it also possible that he just built tons of Confusion AR and then she's stuck just spamming that?
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Jan 10, 2018 17:29
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Yukari posted:Is it also possible that he just built tons of Confusion AR and then she's stuck just spamming that? It's not the AR, but more 'why is the AI spamming this skill over and over?' The AR should have anything to do with the AI, it only effects if you were hit by confusion and prevent order does the same thing (protecting you).
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Jan 10, 2018 17:54
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Blademaster_Aio posted:It's not the AR, but more 'why is the AI spamming this skill over and over?' I mean as far as "why nobody became confused" without using protect order/regroup tactic. If they were all confused earlier and got healed from it twice each, as might happen in a longer fight, with buffs up, the AI might be spamming the skill over and over even though it can't inflict confusion anymore.
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Jan 10, 2018 17:58
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Yukari posted:I mean as far as "why nobody became confused" without using protect order/regroup tactic. If they were all confused earlier and got healed from it twice each, as might happen in a longer fight, with buffs up, the AI might be spamming the skill over and over even though it can't inflict confusion anymore. You are correct in assuming that I had built up confusion resistance due to being struck with it a few times, but this AI doesn't react to AR in any way. It's not technically deciding to cast it again directly because of my AR, but as a result of it. The important part is here: Deep Princess' AI posted:If HP is below 51% and the party has 6 or more buffs, and no one is confused, cast Sweet Song. (Standard targeting.) As Fetus mentioned, this case right here would technically lead to constant casting of Sweet Song. I had a Prince on my team, so I definitely had a few buffs on my party, and I know I got her below half her health before she healed back up after the two binds landed. I don't know if I can say for sure that her AI got muddled because of being sent back a phase or two or I just managed to get her back under 51% after my confusion landed on her, but she had already tagged my party with panic (not necessarily everyone at once) at least once or twice so we had definitely built up resistance to it. Hence, Sweet Song wasn't likely to land again, but she kept trying to because my team had buffs and none of them were currently confused.
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Jan 11, 2018 15:51
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That particular check always checks on the current HP, and as far as I know, there's no way to actually break an enemy's AI outside of holes within the script. So it was either you got her below half health again, or you ran into one of the other Sweet Song checks and got lucky.
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Jan 11, 2018 23:41
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So the final EO game for the 3DS got revealed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqJDwsDUlVI EOX, or Etrian Odyssey Cross. Which is basically a celebration game with several elements from the previous EO games. Class Roster: EO1: Highlander, Ronin, Protector, Survivalist, Medic EO2: War Magus, Gunner EO3: Sovereign, Ninja, Farmer, Shogun, Zodiac EO4: Imperial, Arcanist, Landsknecht, Nightseeker EO5: Harbinger, Pugilist New: Hero Uses EO5's mechanics (Get hosed, TEC), and subclassing is in. EO2U's Force system is in as well. Also,  Best shopkeeper made it in.
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Apr 10, 2018 04:26
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EO5 mechanics AND subclasses? Does that mean you get a legendary title and a subclass to boot?
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Apr 10, 2018 05:10
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New armored girl appears to be named Persephone, pink-haired one is Birgitte. Also is life
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Apr 10, 2018 05:16
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Dr. Fetus posted:So the final EO game for the 3DS got revealed. Uh... Final? As in, they're not going to make any more? Seems kind of a waste.
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Apr 10, 2018 05:23
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Alacron posted:Uh... Final? As in, they're not going to make any more? Seems kind of a waste. The 3DS is nearly dead at this point, basically a zombie machine. Its successor, the Switch, has already proven itself to be an actually valuable console in the market, unlike the Wii U. Sooner or later you have to move on.
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Apr 10, 2018 05:37
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Blaze Dragon posted:The 3DS is nearly dead at this point, basically a zombie machine. Its successor, the Switch, has already proven itself to be an actually valuable console in the market, unlike the Wii U. For some reason I thought it was "Final EO game period"  Carry on then
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Apr 10, 2018 05:47
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Now the question is, of course: Eng. Version when
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Apr 10, 2018 06:10
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Oh god that's basically all my favourites minus Dark Hunter (or Warlock but that particular niche is replicated almost identical every game and I do love Zodiacs too). WHO the gently caress do I use first playthrough? E: will we have actually useful farmer? The world wonders
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Apr 10, 2018 06:29
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Musings on the classes: Shogun and Nightseeker are both dual wield classes so they probably have some great synergy. Imperial and Zodiac likely go together well for similar reasons. Medic, War Magus, and Sovereign are the healing classes I guess. Or maybe Hero will be a hybrid healer like War Magus? They could give Protector some stronger healing ability as well. Speaking of which I guess Protector is the only tank. Is Highlander the only class with a subclass-usable charge skill in this lineup?
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Apr 10, 2018 07:17
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Edie's message at the end of the trailer:quote:"Mayotta toki ga kaidoki ja," which may mean: "When in doubt or you're lost, it's a good time to buy!" Never change, Edie.  McFrugal posted:Musings on the classes: Zodiac had Etheric Charge in EO3! If they still have it, Imperials would love to subclass as a Zodiac. 
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Apr 10, 2018 07:35
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Dr. Fetus posted:Zodiac had Etheric Charge in EO3! If they still have it, Imperials would love to subclass as a Zodiac. Oh yeah wow jeez.
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Apr 10, 2018 07:42
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Don't Imperials get innate charge anyways? Imperial passives were decent on a runeseeker back in 4 so Zodiac/Runemaster could also work for a TEC based attacker. Also  farmers but no Yggdroids, they clearly threw the towel there.Wishlist: we get ALL the portraits, so you can have a Protector that's an Hoplite or Fortress, a Nightseeker with DH portraits, your medic is a monk etc
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Apr 10, 2018 08:48
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Omobono posted:Don't Imperials get innate charge anyways? Charge Edge, yes. Which is a far better fit for them because it reduces Drive cooldown while also activating a charge effect.
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Apr 10, 2018 08:55
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That's alot of classes. I get why but still, that's alot. Shame there isn't any Fafnir Knight class considering the return of Force and Highlander is in the upcoming game but maybe they'll include it as DLC though that's just me being hopeful to be honest. I also find it neat that while there isn't any plans for 3 Untold, the classes in 3 alongside the first game are tied to having the most classes for X.
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Apr 10, 2018 09:06
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I wonder if theyll keep all the zodiac and shogun shenanigans you could get up to.
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Apr 10, 2018 09:59
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They'll probably silo the most broken abilities behind legendary names so that subclassing doesn't break class balance like a twig AGAIN.
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Apr 10, 2018 11:29
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Wait, wait, wait, Untold 2 Focus gauge returns? Titles, and Subclassing? Oh Atlus, take my heart!
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Apr 11, 2018 11:25
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Arcade Rabbit posted:Wait, wait, wait, Untold 2 Focus gauge returns? Titles, and Subclassing? Oh Atlus, take my money! ftfy
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Apr 11, 2018 23:39
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So the EO3 class trailer for EOX got released (There's a Hoist the Sword remix in there.) and the site updated with part of the classes' skills. I bring this up because you all may be interested in the Farmer's skills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTmmXQpIj00 quote:Sovereign: quote:Shogun: quote:Zodiac: quote:Ninja: quote:Farmer: Yeah. Reaper Farmers are real now! And they have a bunch of new toys to play with to boot! They're still primarily field supports, since the revealed skill tree showed them having most of their EO3 skills. Including Earth's Bounty, which means more since Farmers aren't exactly an empty party slot anymore.
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Alice (the farmer) will be more like Alice (the demon) now, and I can not stop smiling.
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