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Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow
It's a great sticky situation... A baby bird was found 3 weeks ago inside a wall of a building. No nest or other birds in sight. It looked not great. A friend took the bird in under her wing. Meet Buckbeak.



Buckbeak ate and ate and ate, and grew. And smelled so horrible.







Now we're at the point where Buckbeak is flying and wanting outside. Yesterday was Buckbeak's first day in the outdoors. He flew, though not gracefully. He started learning to hunt insects. He mostly wanted to be near people. He has a LOT of learning to do to be a bird. Looking for any advice on how to safely transition this bird to a wild life, if that may be possible. I think this is a European Starling.



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LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Since he was people-raised he may never transition properly to being a wild bird. I'd recommend contacting a local wildlife/avian rehab center and talking to them. :)

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

Ditto on the wildlife rehabber, they are equipped with things like outside aviaries and know all about how to reintroduce Buckbeak to the wild. Great job getting the little guy this far, he was a fresh baby when you found him! :)

If you have trouble finding a rehabber in your area, call local bird stores, check out forums on the Internet, ask at the animal shelter, etc. To my knowledge starlings are not one of the 'no-no' species and you won't get in trouble for having one in your posession.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Velvet Sparrow posted:

Great job getting the little guy this far, he was a fresh baby when you found him! :)

Also yeah this too :3: He is a very handsome little fellow!

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Since he was people-raised he may never transition properly to being a wild bird. I'd recommend contacting a local wildlife/avian rehab center and talking to them. :)
Unfortunately the local wildlife services could offer no more than an easy way to kill the chick. Private rehabilitation was also a no go. We weren't sure he'd make it on that first day, but that's a tough little bird. He had a good support network.

I'm going to see if there are any rehab options now that Buckbeak has grown.

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow

Velvet Sparrow posted:

Ditto on the wildlife rehabber, they are equipped with things like outside aviaries and know all about how to reintroduce Buckbeak to the wild. Great job getting the little guy this far, he was a fresh baby when you found him! :)

If you have trouble finding a rehabber in your area, call local bird stores, check out forums on the Internet, ask at the animal shelter, etc. To my knowledge starlings are not one of the 'no-no' species and you won't get in trouble for having one in your posession.
I work at an animal shelter, heh. There's not much in the region for help for this bird. That's how Buckbeak ended up where he did. I will go digging for more resources for sure!

In the mean time I might have to pick out a birdhouse for Buckbeak to call home. He will be fed and watched over while he's on the grounds.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Looks like a starling.

http://www.starlingtalk.com/babycare.htm

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow
It does look that way. He must be 4 weeks old now, not quite 5. That explains why he can't feed himself. It also doesn't look great for a wild life. He was a single chick and he definitely imprinted on his caretaker(s). That's not good. The bird rehabbers wouldn't take him as a tiny chick and that opportunity to learn has passed.

It would be possible to make him a bird house and make sure he has food and water outdoors daily. I don't think he'd be able to make it outside in the winter here even with a bird house.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Rat posted:

It does look that way. He must be 4 weeks old now, not quite 5. That explains why he can't feed himself. It also doesn't look great for a wild life. He was a single chick and he definitely imprinted on his caretaker(s). That's not good. The bird rehabbers wouldn't take him as a tiny chick and that opportunity to learn has passed.

It would be possible to make him a bird house and make sure he has food and water outdoors daily. I don't think he'd be able to make it outside in the winter here even with a bird house.

They might just have to keep him?

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow

Hood Ornament posted:

They might just have to keep him?
That is unlikely to be an option.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Yeah, a lot of places don't accept starlings or sparrows as they're considered invasive species. Your best bet is probably your outdoors birdhouse idea (and perhaps you could take him inside during the winter), and you can have a little bird friend living next door to visit and hang out with. :3:

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Where is the bird located? Maybe there's some sort of program where he can be taken as an ambassador animal.

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

Hood Ornament posted:

Where is the bird located? Maybe there's some sort of program where he can be taken as an ambassador animal.

Lots of people have pet starlings, they make awesome pets...but since it's summer, you do have time to slowly acclimate him to the outdoors and ease him into being a wild bird. Likely he'll hang around your house once he's released, especially if you provide food and water sources and he knows it's a safe area. If you do decide to keep and then release him, I'd raise him until he is an adult and then release him in your yard. Meanwhile you can set his cage outside during the day (not in direct sunlight!) and let him get used to the great outdoors while still being safe.

My friend Kasia (a fellow chicken person!) runs an animal rescue called Kasia's Ark, her starling Damar is a great talker and I love him to death! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KId25_Jf7Fc

She works with a lot of European starlings and might be able to help or advise you (she's in New Orleans), her Facebook page is here: https://www.facebook.com/KasiasArk

Velvet Sparrow fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jul 15, 2015

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow

Hood Ornament posted:

Where is the bird located? Maybe there's some sort of program where he can be taken as an ambassador animal.

Northern rural Alberta. Google has helped with nothing I'm afraid. There's really nothing nearby that is willing to deal with starlings. When there was an orphaned goose we got help, this bird not so much.

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Yeah, a lot of places don't accept starlings or sparrows as they're considered invasive species. Your best bet is probably your outdoors birdhouse idea (and perhaps you could take him inside during the winter), and you can have a little bird friend living next door to visit and hang out with. :3:
If it's not a horrible life for a bird I'll do what I can to get him a secure outdoor shelter. This location is good for it. Wooded and surrounded by wetlands. It may be possible to do that for him. Not sure about an indoor cage for the winter. As it stands he's living outdoors but returning to be fed throughout the day.

I want to make sure here can learn the right songs and learn how to mostly feed himself. If he can learn to not approach every human, that would also be best.

Very interesting intelligent creature, afraid I can't take in a pet bird.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Rat posted:

If it's not a horrible life for a bird I'll do what I can to get him a secure outdoor shelter. This location is good for it. Wooded and surrounded by wetlands. It may be possible to do that for him. Not sure about an indoor cage for the winter. As it stands he's living outdoors but returning to be fed throughout the day.

I want to make sure here can learn the right songs and learn how to mostly feed himself. If he can learn to not approach every human, that would also be best.

Very interesting intelligent creature, afraid I can't take in a pet bird.

Ah, yes, I meant if you couldn't find a shelter or specialist to take him in. :) Even if you can't an employee or volunteer might be able to give you advice on what to expect and what resources are available.

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow

Velvet Sparrow posted:

Lots of people have pet starlings, they make awesome pets...but since it's summer, you do have time to slowly acclimate him to the outdoors and ease him into being a wild bird. Likely he'll hang around your house once he's released, especially if you provide food and water sources and he knows it's a safe area. If you do decide to keep and then release him, I'd raise him until he is an adult and then release him in your yard. Meanwhile you can set his cage outside during the day (not in direct sunlight!) and let him get used to the great outdoors while still being safe.

My friend Kasia (a fellow chicken person!) runs an animal rescue called Kasia's Ark, her starling Damar is a great talker and I love him to death! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KId25_Jf7Fc

She works with a lot of European starlings and might be able to help or advise you (she's in New Orleans), her Facebook page is here: https://www.facebook.com/KasiasArk
They seem like great birds as birds go. I shot her a message.

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Ah, yes, I meant if you couldn't find a shelter or specialist to take him in. :) Even if you can't an employee or volunteer might be able to give you advice on what to expect and what resources are available.
He could live outside of the animal shelter I work at, and I know he would have daily attention. Winter would be the issue.

Normally people bring the animals to us and it's OK... just not baby birds!

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow
Current bird status: Buckbeak is on day 3 outside after his Monday morning release.



at one point he would not leave me alone. Then he did that.



Otherwise he's keeping more distance, coming around when he is hungry--and then being in your face, or my face anyway. I saw a few other starlings nearby, Buckbeak seemed to notice them. He was gone hanging out in the trees in their general area for a few hours. Can he even interact with other birds? Maybe he can recognize their song.

Trying to minimize his handling. He has safe spaces outside. Everyone is on watch for his well being. He has a bird bath that he seems to thoroughly enjoy. We're feeding insects from the yard, and supplementing with some store bought live insects. Buckbeak was able to stir up a few young grasshoppers and eat them without any assistance. He seems to be OK outside on his own at this time. Is there any major danger to having him outdoors at this point if we are attempting to have him live his life outside? There are corvids, they hang out for dog kibble scraps at the end of the day without fail. Otherwise they don't bother much.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Cats, mostly, I'm sure. Birds of prey. Snakes.

Tasty_Crayon
Jul 29, 2006
Same story, different version.

Teach him to say "Help I've been turned into a bird!" And release him in the middle of a crowded park.

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

Tasty_Crayon posted:

Teach him to say "Help I've been turned into a bird!" And release him in the middle of a crowded park.

^^^^ Best idea yet. Or, 'I can talk, can you fly?' just to piss off park-goers.

It sounds like you are easing him into being a wild birdy the right way, I think he'll do just fine. :)
I had a female Broad-tailed hummingbird that someone brought to me as a fallen nestling, I raised her to adulthood--she used to sit on my desk at work in a little basket where it was warm, she'd 'BEEP!' when she was hungry. People would look around trying to figure out what the Hell was beeping. I eventually released her in my back yard, after a few days I didn't see her again. I was kinda sad not knowing what happened to her.

The next Spring she suddenly reappeared in my back yard, flying around my head and squeaking. :) After that she came back every Spring to hang out. I knew it was her because she clealry knew me, and where I lived Broad-Tails were not normally seen.

So don't worry too much about Buckbeak, birds are tough and starlings are smart little suckers.

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow

Tasty_Crayon posted:

Teach him to say "Help I've been turned into a bird!" And release him in the middle of a crowded park.
In that creepy bird mimic voice... oh god

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow
Came into work early to feed Buckbeak and see how he was doing. He swooped me hard from behind and was chattering up a storm. Seemed to love cricket hunting. Then he flew off to sit on a fence. He's leaving other people alone so far.

His chirp is sounding more bird like and less squawky. Good job buddy!

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow
Heard a story about Buckbeak! Also believe Buck is a ladybird.

Buckbeak was released in an area that is mostly undisturbed, but near a property used for fire training sometimes. On her first night of release there was a fire drill with a live burn not far away. As a firefighter in full gear was hosing down a burning structure Buckbeak swooped in at his face. The fireman was shouting and flailing and spraying everywhere while Buckbeak kept at his mask. The firefighters had to stop the drill for a bit. They had no idea and were not expecting a bird attack! She just wanted to eat.

Thankfully Buckbeak has been keeping her distance more, flying a lot, and doing some of her own hunting. I will see her in a few hours. Many bug treats for her. :3:

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

AHAHAHA...starlings! :black101:

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Hahah silly bird :3: I'm so glad she's doing well!

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow
She's doing very well. So well that she's started acting peckish and squawky when food doesn't arrive promptly. My poor ears! That bird!

She's also throwing the feeding tongs aside if she sees it's cat food. A few bites and then what I imagine is a chorus of "where are the bugs?!"

Her chirp sounds different already. Much more melodic.

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Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien
Congrats on your new pet bird OP

Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow

EXTREME INSERTION posted:

Congrats on your new pet bird OP
Would be a convenient cat snack in my home

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Rat
Dec 12, 2006

meow
Buckbeak has become pretty pro at flying and hunting stuff. If she keeps bothering random people a friend has a rural property with a huge garden, Buckbeak would be great pest control.

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