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also if they really gave a poo poo about security they would use freebsd, not netbsd freebsd is the one that actually has 21st century security poo poo built-in
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But does it have an Alpha port
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yes edit: not anymore quote:As of FreeBSD 7.0, support for the Alpha platform has been removed. The development of new Alpha systems has been discontinued by the hardware vendor; this combined with the widespread deployment of more mainstream 64-bit platforms, such as the AMD64 and Intel EM64T architectures, has resulted in significantly reduced user and developer community interest.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:also if they really gave a poo poo about security they would use freebsd, not netbsd 
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good operating systems have mandatory access control frameworks this excludes netbsd from the class of good operating systems
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anymore updates on the security dick waving between FreeBSD and OpenBSD, I think the last was FreeBSD being the only one with some kind of DEP scheme in place?
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the only thing openbsd protects you from is performance
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pram posted:the only thing openbsd protects you from is performance
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i remember this shootout / audit article a few years back of all the free unixes. their main concern with openbsd was that the kernel and some of the core systems choked so hard on certain load patterns that it was trivial to deny service from a system if you knew which version of openbsd it was using e: it might have been this one http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jan 23, 2016 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i remember this shootout / audit article a few years back of all the free unixes. their main concern with openbsd was that the kernel and some of the core systems choked so hard on certain load patterns that it was trivial to deny service from a system if you knew which version of openbsd it was using i don't think people were ever serious about hosting services on openbsd. it was more about the rad firewalling queuing, etc problem: openbsd pf still runs on a single core modern network speeds mean you can't possibly firewall anything with a single core. even a branch office has probably got a few 10G links.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:good operating systems have mandatory access control frameworks its ca;lled "use a password",, ever heard of it mr. ITS guest user???
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:yes can't they just start with FreeBSD-7.0, pull the sources for each successive version, and end up running FreeBSD-CURRENT on Alpha? (I kid, I work on an OS, I know that's not how it works) (usually)
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it's open source, so they can fix any issues that come up and submit patches, bringing alpha support for everyone
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who the gently caress runs alpha these days
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anyone who wants to use a production build of OpenGenera from what I hear though the experimental x86_64 build for Linux and OS X works fine though, and runs many times faster than any Alpha ran OpenGenera, which was in turn was several times faster than any Symbolics hardware ever ran Genera (this even though the x86_64 build of OpenGenera is literally the result of generating an assembly code dump during compilation and running that through a simple Alpha-to-x86_64 translator with only the most minimal optimization)
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im going to use it ironically op and there's nothing you can do to stop me
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NO!!!!!
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eschaton posted:from what I hear though the experimental x86_64 build for Linux and OS X works fine though, and runs many times faster than any Alpha ran OpenGenera, which was in turn was several times faster than any Symbolics hardware ever ran Genera  enough about your lovely consumer hardware already
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ooh it's probably been there for a while but there's a new webmail interface that looks real nice
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