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kalvick
Jun 5, 2001
I have a Windows 10 computer with 2 user accounts on it. My wife and I. I think Crashplan seems to be the most commonly used backup service.
I would like to back up our data using Crashplan. It says I have to install it per user. Does that mean I have to pay for the service twice? or does it mean I am paying for one computer, and the backup software just needs to be installed for each account?

What is the general policy on media? Like mp3’s, videos, etc… I know there are laws about putting this stuff in the cloud so I want to make sure what is legal. I don’t want record label lawyers knocking on my door because
They detected a file being transferred or someone is going thru my stuff at Crashplan's end. Crashplan says backup whatever you want but I have reservations.

I remember the cloud service MEGAupload was shutdown because some users decided to use it as a pirate service. The feds locked it down for everyone including the legit users.
Is Crashplan another type of cloud service that can suffer from this type of crackdown?

Are there any better backup sites?

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Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
The default for Crashplan is to install for everyone that uses the computer and back up all of their data. If you want to pay extra for separate accounts for each user, you are allowed to do that too, but that isn't what most people do.

MegaUpload got busted because they operated a cloud service that you could upload to for other people to download. Backing up your stuff to a private cloud is totally legal and no one will know what you upload. Unless you upload known child porn, then they will tell the feds and you will go to prison, and you will deserve it.

There's a backup megathread here but everyone just says to use Crashplan pretty much.

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost
Technically you can use an archive key password for Crashplan and then you can safely store your kiddie porn without any risk!

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived
I went with backblaze, but I can't remember why now. I think all of those cloud backups have some sort of trial so you can see which service maxes out your upload before you go for it.

Documents/smaller files, I'd stick with dropbox or something along those lines.

Music library I'd throw on google music, or amazon cloud player, or whatever the apple version of that is. You'd get a way to stream your current library wherever you have a web connection, usually with some sort of dedicated player app regardless of platform.. and I'm pretty sure all three replaces anything you have that's lower quality with something along the lines of cd quality encodes, as long as it's in their catalog of tracks. I had a ton of 128 tracks from ripping all my cds and putting them into storage and it was a quick and painless way to have all that stuff bumped up in quality. If you have under 50k songs, gmusic is free to boot which is pretty rad.

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

kalvick posted:


Are there any better backup sites?

If you're heavily focused on privacy, than Spideroak have a zero-knowledge encryption service. You can do it with Crashplan, but it's the default with Spideroak. You may find their unlimited devices pricing to be more suited to your needs depending on what you're after, although it seems to be slightly more expensive on pricing per gigabyte than crashplan. https://spideroak.com/solutions/spideroak-one

sarehu
Apr 20, 2007

(call/cc call/cc)

peak debt posted:

Technically you can use an archive key password for Crashplan and then you can safely store your kiddie porn without any risk!

There's a good chance you'd be pwnable by traffic analysis.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
I had a lot of issues with Spideroak's Windows client and what was apparently a really aggressive versioning system, when I tried them out a few years ago. I've no idea if any of that's been fixed, or if I just had a bad interaction.

Crashplan doesn't do per-gig options any more, they stopped that a year or two back. These days it's just six bucks a month for unlimited storage for one machine, five if you buy in for a year.

PBCrunch
Jun 17, 2002

Lawrence Phillips Always #1 to Me
Is Crashplan a viable option for backing up a ~5TB media collection? I've heard complaints that it uploads so slow it takes months to back up a couple of terabytes. I don't know how old these experiences are or whether they are still valid concerns.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived
I had that issue with backblaze (I'm on the east coast but their servers are based on the west coast) until they finally introduced threaded uploads and I went from about 30 gigs a day to 290 gigs a day speedwise. It took about a year to back up 7tb at the slower speeds, and then under a month or so to backup the remaining 3tb. (I have about 10 years of video work in case you're wondering).

I'd emphasize doing a trial with whatever service you're looking at to see what speeds you hit and how well/fast their file recovery is. One downside on backblaze is a restore isn't instant, it takes some time before you're served a link with your files so it's basically impossible to use as a instant sync revisioning/dropbox service if that's a stipulation.

It'd be great if more people had any sort of backup otion..I'm only 2 for 3 on the proper setup (local raid, offsite cloud, but no offsite local) but I still feel enormously less paranoid then when I had nothing in place. Does windows 10 have any sort of inbuilt OS support like osx and time machine?

zer0spunk fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Feb 21, 2016

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


It has File History:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/getstarted-back-up-your-files

evilocity
Jul 6, 2004

a simple trap in a dark corner of the mind, and their nightmares catch up with them

PBCrunch posted:

Is Crashplan a viable option for backing up a ~5TB media collection? I've heard complaints that it uploads so slow it takes months to back up a couple of terabytes. I don't know how old these experiences are or whether they are still valid concerns.

It can take quite a while for large backups, and after about a TB or so, the deduplication algorithm can be very cpu taxing. There is an option called backup sets you can use to alleviate some of this, as deduplication is not performed across sets. Hit support, preferably by email or chat, for help with this if you do it, they may know more about recent changes in this area.

Once the initial backup is performed, though, incrementals should be quite speedy.

peak debt posted:

Technically you can use an archive key password for Crashplan and then you can safely store your [awful poo poo] without any risk!

The elevated security options deserve a special mention as all encryption is performed client side, so you should be secure WRT traffic analysis as far as the backup itself goes. It does, however, make support unable to help with a lot of issues, so if your data is mostly legit I'd suggest against it. Also, as one would expect from GPG and the like, if you lose that key, no one can help you. At all.

Full disclosure: I am former CrashPlan support and QA. Despite the 'former' there, as a backup service for home users I still very much advocate for CrashPlan.

If anyone has weirder questions about CrashPlan specifically, I'll try to remember to come back to this thread.

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Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

PBCrunch posted:

Is Crashplan a viable option for backing up a ~5TB media collection? I've heard complaints that it uploads so slow it takes months to back up a couple of terabytes. I don't know how old these experiences are or whether they are still valid concerns.

Mine's backing up about 12TB at the moment.I had it running for about 3 months doing the initial backup and it had only done about 10%, but then I managed to find out what the problem was and got the remaining 90% done in a couple of weeks. There's a 1GB RAM usage limit in one of the config files, turn it up to at least 1GB per 1TB of files and the upload speed should increase dramatically.

https://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/4/Troubleshooting/Adjusting_CrashPlan_Settings_For_Memory_Usage_With_Large_Backups

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