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Bel_Canto
Apr 23, 2007

"Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo."
If OP doesn't come back but people still wanna talk, hop on over to Liturgical Christianity: we've got plenty of more low church members and everyone is super chill.

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Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Bel_Canto posted:

If OP doesn't come back but people still wanna talk, hop on over to Liturgical Christianity: we've got plenty of more low church members and everyone is super chill.

Is this the infamous fishing from other churches' waters? :eek:

The Phlegmatist
Nov 24, 2003
I can field this since the SBC is somewhat similar to PCUSA in its polity, OP can correct me if I get anything wrong if he ever comes back.

Antivehicular posted:

You said your goal is to become a pastor. In practical terms, how does that work?
In theory everything in the SBC is up to the individual congregations.

In practice, how it works is that a prospective pastor goes to an SBC seminary and gets his M. Div, usually in Christian Ministry or Church Leadership. Afterwards, he responds to the call (which is Christianese for a ministerial job opening) of a pastorless SBC church in the same way you'd apply to any other job.

This is opposed to denominations with an episcopal polity, like Catholics, United Methodists, Anglicans, Episcopalians etc. where you are ordained by the denomination and then assigned somewhere. Ordination isn't a function of the SBC at the denominational level, but rather a pastor is ordained by an individual congregation.

If the pastorless SBC church likes his resume they'll invite him to be interviewed by the elders (in an elder-led church) or a committee of congregants (in the more congregationalist churches) where they'll ask him about his theological views, his ministerial experience and why he thinks that he's a good fit for the church.

Antivehicular posted:

Is it an actual paying career that one keeps full-time, or is it basically a volunteer thing? Are you employed by the SBC or some other organization, or are you independent/self-employed?
Pastors in the SBC are employed and paid by their congregation and not the denomination. It's a full-time position, but smaller churches often can't collect enough tithes to pay their pastors a living wage and keep up the building, so some pastors are bi-vocational and they work an additional job in addition to being a full-time pastor.

Volunteer pastors are pretty rare, and I've only seen it happen, in descending order of frequency: if it's an interim pastor between the old pastor leaving and the congregation putting in a call for the next, if a church is having trouble keeping its lights on and pulls a pastor out of retirement to lead the congregation, or if the church is ultra-small and they just use a rotating group of the laity to preach sermons and do pastoral duties.

Antivehicular posted:

You mentioned wanting to take over and reinvigorate a struggling church; can you just choose a church and go to town, or will you get an assignment?
Like I said before, SBC pastors aren't assigned. He'd have to specifically look for a struggling church without a current pastor and answer their call.

Antivehicular posted:

Are there enough openings in the Southern Baptist clergy for the number of seminary-college hopefuls?
It can be hard for a new seminary grad to get into a church, since there are more graduates than openings for new pastors. Once you're in and getting experience, though, you have a pretty comfortable career ahead of you.

turbomoose
Nov 29, 2008
Playing the banjo can be a relaxing activity and create lifelong friendships!
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There's the 7 deadly sins that most people have heard of. Are these biblical in nature? Is there a 10 commandments type section for these sins or are these sins different from the typical christian sins?

Bel_Canto
Apr 23, 2007

"Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo."

turbomoose posted:

There's the 7 deadly sins that most people have heard of. Are these biblical in nature? Is there a 10 commandments type section for these sins or are these sins different from the typical christian sins?

That list originates with the Desert Fathers and was imported into Europe by the writings of St. John Cassian, who listed eight, and their number was reduced to seven by Pope Gregory I, who folded Vainglory into Pride. Their monastic origins are evident in the fact that these are sins that have to do with evil thoughts: combatting the seven deadly sins is an exercise in disciplining the mind and spirit. It has Biblical antecedents, since the number seven is a repeated motif in both the Old and New Testaments, but in itself it's not Biblical.

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Jeb Bush 2012
Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

It's neat that the OP abandoning this thread has lead to it actually having information about being a southern baptist seminary student!

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