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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

gohmak posted:

Hey none of that grown man responsibly poo poo stops Tom Araya from being consistently awesome.

consistently awesome at being a massive old pussy.

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Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.

Laserface posted:


I agree though they should stop trying to write 8min metal songs and just write stuff like Load/Reload.


The best song on reload is an 8 min song.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Laserface posted:

All their live stuff is played a step or two down. my band did it too because its way easier to play show after show (as a singer) when you're only hitting half your range than if you're playing it in E every night.

nah they've been tuning to e flat live since the mid-90s, but that was primarily so they didn't have to keep switching guitars between the load and earlier stuff

still too high for james' voice

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
here's a weird one though- slayer tuned to d for live undead where they re-recorded a bunch of show no mercy stuff that was originally in e

i wonder why they didn't stick with that instead of tuning back up to e flat for chemical warfare and everything after until the late 90s

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana
Nov 25, 2013

'it's time to realize Metallica owns... a bunch of sensible shoes and compact cars'

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

Laserface posted:

consistently awesome at being a massive old pussy.

Care to back that up

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

comes along bort posted:

here's a weird one though- slayer tuned to d for live undead where they re-recorded a bunch of show no mercy stuff that was originally in e

i wonder why they didn't stick with that instead of tuning back up to e flat for chemical warfare and everything after until the late 90s

For us that don't read music, wtf?

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


gohmak posted:

For us that don't read music, wtf?

I'm not a good musician but the general rule with guitar is that when you down-tune, like you lower your low-e string to D, or you tune the entire guitar down an entire step (drop c tuning), you make certain chords easier to play, and it allows people with lower registers/older people to sing along without risking blowing their voice out.

it also sounds 'heavier'.

So basically it's something of a cheat, lacking any real creativity you can hack some "heaviness" into your music by tuning down, you let your singer off the hook, you make it so that the bassist and the guitarist pretty much just need to strum palm muted open strings/chords most of the time if you're in a metal band.

So if you're an old boner in metallica or slayer, you might want to play some of that music you played as an old coked up 20-something, and to get there without sounding terrible you probably gotta do this.

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

hemophilia posted:

I'm not a good musician

if you just stop here you wont have to read a bunch of know nothing bullshit on down tuning

Mahuum Aqoha
Jan 15, 2004

SHEPARD!
Do it for the universe!
Fun Shoe
I was on the floor for the show and when creeping death started a mosh pit opened up right where I was standing, the first thing I saw was this big drunk guy get PUNCHED RIGHT IN THE FACE and then he stumbled around sticking his tongue out at people for ten minutes before he got escorted out. Good times

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


rezatahs posted:

if you just stop here you wont have to read a bunch of know nothing bullshit on down tuning

drop tuning is easier to play and old bands switch to it to save their old bones sorry dude.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

gohmak posted:

For us that don't read music, wtf?

they started out with normal tuning, then tuned their guitars lower for a bit, then tuned them not quite as low later on

a lot later on they tuned even lower because they started listening to korn and poo poo but who cares because at that point they quit making anything worth listening to

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rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

hemophilia posted:

drop tuning is easier to play and old bands switch to it to save their old bones sorry dude.

i have no doubt that bands like metallica do it for that exact reason but its only "easier" if all you do is lazily power chord like 90% of the time

there are plenty of technically adept players that have been doing it their whole careers

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