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Hey folks. Don't bother seeing your Ford Dealer for Quality Ford parts - my Ford dealer can't even find me a loving tire for my 2013 Focus ST. Apparently there isn't a single tire in the nation and it will take 3 months to get one. They want me to let them install a 'similar tire' (a replacement would be covered under my tire warranty) but I have friends I would rather pay to have them install a 'similar tire'. Here's the actual question; What in the actual gently caress is the difference between the Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetrical and asymmetrical 2? I can get an asymmetrical no problem, the ST comes with A2s. Basically W.W.A.I.D? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+Asymmetric http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+Asymmetric+2
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Aug 9, 2016 19:40
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Googling your car's factory tire size, it's 235/40R18. Tire rack doesn't list that as an available size in the Asymmetric, only the Asymmetric 2. So, if Goodyear discontinued that size, or is only making it available to OEM's to support cars for their customers, that may explain it. I don't know what to tell you about the rest of the situation. If your other tires aren't worn too much and they're willing to just replace one tire, they might not want to go with something with a different tread pattern. This would mean they'd have to eat the cost of 4 tires. You're probably going to have to go up the chain to a higher level of manager, if you end up getting a tire covered at all.
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Aug 9, 2016 19:51
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loving manufacturers discontinuing tires... I have the same problem with my Michelin Pilot Sport Exaltos too. I'd make them install two tires, not just one. You don't want uneven grip on an axle.
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Aug 11, 2016 02:30
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I'd like to jump on the tire help thread. I have a set of snow tires/wheels that I'm trying to figure out if they will work for a '12 Lexus CT200H. The wheels are 17*7. The tires are 225/50R17. The tires on the car currently are on 17" wheels (I don't know width). They're 215/45R17. As far as I can tell the lug nuts match up. I don't care that the speedometer will be wrong. Is there anything else I can do to make sure the tires will fit properly prior to jacking it up and giving it a go?
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Sep 28, 2016 01:26
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FortifiedTumor posted:I'd like to jump on the tire help thread. It's a 5% error, which isn't awful. Your speedo will read 5% slow, if I'm thinking about it right. Make sure they have the right load rating and speed rating, but so long as the lug pattern is the same, the hub bore is acceptable, and they don't rub (which they won't), you'll be OK.
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Sep 28, 2016 02:14
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Well it seems the bolt pattern doesn't match. I found the receipt from the winter wheels, they're 5-108. The car is 5-100. I see there are adapter plates, is that a terrible idea?
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Sep 28, 2016 03:36
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FortifiedTumor posted:Well it seems the bolt pattern doesn't match. I found the receipt from the winter wheels, they're 5-108. The car is 5-100. I see there are adapter plates, is that a terrible idea? Adapters are pretty janky. Just get some cheap, actually correct wheels, get your winter tires swapped over, and sell the incorrect wheels. Steel wheels and (often) secondhand stock wheels are pretty inexpensive, so that's the way I'd start looking.
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Sep 28, 2016 04:24
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Whooo boy, wheels are complicated. According to this magnificent site, http://www.wheel-size.com/ which allows you to search by wheel to find matching cars. The Toyota Matrix (which a local pick and pull has one of with 4 wheels) uses the exact same dimension of wheel as the CT200H. So I can pull those off the Matrix and put my existing 225/50R17XL tires on them right? Well, a tire shop can at any rate. No possible hangups (other than the speedometer is still off)? EDIT: Actually I found a 06 Scion tc with 17" wheels at another place in town... Those wheels look much nicer. Still same width (7"), offset (45), center bore (54.1) and bolt pattern (5x100). Should be good to go putting the 225/50R17XL tires on? FortifiedTumor fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Sep 28, 2016 05:03
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FortifiedTumor posted:Whooo boy, wheels are complicated. Yep. As long as they're 17" wheels of around the right width, the tires will go on. The way tire sizes go, 225-50R17 means 225mm tread width, 50% of that is the sidewall height, 17" wheel. So with 17" wheels that aren't suuuper skinny or mega wide, the tires will go on. And if you know the bolt pattern, backspace/offset, and center bore are the same as your car, you know those wheels will go on your car. Sounds like you've got it figured out.
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Sep 28, 2016 09:01
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So another twist to that scenario -- By the time you a) Buy a new set of wheels b) Have the existing Winter tires dismounted and remounted, and possibly the TPMS sensor changed (if present) c) Sell the existing wheels You have added a bit of work/hassle/expense. It may be cheaper to look for someone selling a set of Winter tires already mounted on wheels that fit your car. 5x100 is a very common bolt pattern, then you can sell your existing Winter set.
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Sep 28, 2016 11:53
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Thanks for the help. Junk yard failed me when the wheels were gone. But I found a set of tC wheels and tires on Craigslist that allegedly had 50 miles on them; were pulled off when the car was purchased. Thing is those tires are 10 years old at this point. They have a flakey white residue. I'd keep them and use them when my regular tires need to be replaced. Should they be safe to use? If I want to clean them up and such before they're put away is there anything I should use to help them survive longer?
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Oct 1, 2016 21:57
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They are absolutely not safe.
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Oct 1, 2016 23:47
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Dang. At least the price I paid was fair for the wheels only.
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Oct 2, 2016 00:17
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sharkytm posted:loving manufacturers discontinuing tires... I have the same problem with my Michelin Pilot Sport Exaltos too. Try finding decent tires with a 5/8 WW for 15s without paying in kidneys and other organs. Godholio fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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Oct 2, 2016 21:23
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Is there a tire megathread still? Would there be any advantage to having snow tires mounted on a 16" wheel instead of on a 17" if they're the same width? Thoughts between Altimax Arctic vs Blizzak WS80? I feel like these are questions that have probably been answered a million times, sorry.
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Oct 12, 2016 00:31
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CharlesM posted:Is there a tire megathread still? In my experience, 16s are usually a bit cheaper so if the smaller wheels will clear your brakes I say go for it.
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Oct 12, 2016 02:55
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:In my experience, 16s are usually a bit cheaper so if the smaller wheels will clear your brakes I say go for it. I meant more in terms of traction. I remember hearing narrower tires are better but it doesn't look like they make any narrower tires that would be the proper size for my car, either in 16 or 17".
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Oct 12, 2016 05:40
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Theoretically the 17s are better because they give a longer contact patch, narrow tires are better on snow, wider tires better on ice, I think?
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Oct 12, 2016 07:48
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Wouldn't the contact patch be exactly the same, assuming the same rolling diameter? I think he's probably going to go +/-1, not recalibrate his computer every time he swaps wheels.
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Oct 12, 2016 09:35
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CharlesM posted:I meant more in terms of traction. I remember hearing narrower tires are better but it doesn't look like they make any narrower tires that would be the proper size for my car, either in 16 or 17". Yeah, I don't really see how traction would be affected. Like Godholio said, if the rolling diameter is the same (sidewall increasing to compensate for smaller wheel diameter), I don't see how the contact patch would change. You might get a little more sidewall squirm but I can't really see that coming into play that much with a winter/snow scenario. So with all that being equal/irrelevant, I'd go with the cheaper option  .
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Oct 12, 2016 14:03
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For really deep snow you could air down 16"s further to get a bigger flatter patch but in real world use I doubt it would be noticable.
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Oct 12, 2016 22:07
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Since this seems to be the ask dumb questions about tires thread, I've got one. I know that a summer tire effectively turns into a hockey puck below 45 degrees, but where I live, this is also the lower limit of our winter night temps aside from the maybe half dozen nights a year it gets near freezing. I'm assuming its dumb to try to run a summer tire year round even in those kind of conditions, I just want to make sure that its a dumb idea and a good all season would be the best decision for a tire to leave on year round.
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Oct 21, 2016 08:01
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Unless you're autocrossing or racing the high-end all-season tires will be just great for any kind of street driving. That includes AI drivers :P
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Oct 21, 2016 08:49
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If you have space to store a set of tyres, just get some winters on spare wheels. Yes, you're paying for two sets, but you're only putting half the wear on each, so overall it doesn't cost much more, just a cheap/used set of spare wheels.
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Oct 21, 2016 11:16
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InitialDave posted:If you have space to store a set of tyres, just get some winters on spare wheels. Yeah, this is really great. It doesn't take long to jack up both of our cars and swap the tires. If the weather is supposed to get warm for a week or two or if my wife is headed down to Virginia to see her folks I'll also flop her back to the all seasons. The last time it paid off, too -- someone blasted into her path from an on-ramp and if her Blizzaks had been on I don't think she'd have been able to stop in time.
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Oct 21, 2016 15:27
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fyi anyone who needs a set of tires right now, discount tire direct has the 100 off any order over 400 bucks through ebay motors. if you need 800 bucks worth of tires split them into two separate purchases to maximize your discount.
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Oct 21, 2016 16:58
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BraveUlysses posted:fyi anyone who needs a set of tires right now, discount tire direct has the 100 off any order over 400 bucks through ebay motors. if you need 800 bucks worth of tires split them into two separate purchases to maximize your discount. Huh, they carry Hakkapeliitta tires, which TireRack sadly lacks. My winter tires still have waaaay too much tread on them to replace, though.
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Oct 21, 2016 17:04
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Cop Porn Popper posted:Since this seems to be the ask dumb questions about tires thread, I've got one. I know that a summer tire effectively turns into a hockey puck below 45 degrees, but where I live, this is also the lower limit of our winter night temps aside from the maybe half dozen nights a year it gets near freezing. I'm assuming its dumb to try to run a summer tire year round even in those kind of conditions, I just want to make sure that its a dumb idea and a good all season would be the best decision for a tire to leave on year round. I'm in Miami, and switched to Pilot Super Sport summer tires in June of last year. No issues last winter, including a panic stop on a crisp 50°F morning in South Beach. Don't chrome up and hammer down on cold days, just put the windows down and cruise.
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Oct 21, 2016 17:22
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Ford dealer pulled this on my mom on a 2 year old Fusion, was going to be like $500 for two new tires instead of replacing the nearly new 1, found a new replacement on eBay for like $125 it was on her porch in 2 days
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Oct 21, 2016 18:57
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I ran summer tires year round in Florida and unless it was kissing freezing, it was fine.
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Oct 21, 2016 19:22
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Remembered the other morning that I am still running the half worn summer tires on my M coupe, after a pleasant summer ripping around on them hard rain and 45 degree mornings on a slippery on ramp woke me up real proper. I was thinking of getting some continental dws06 since I really like the ones on my wagon but will probably be selling the car soon anyhow 
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Oct 21, 2016 22:37
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Bibendum posted:I was thinking of getting some continental dws06 since I really like the ones on my wagon I figured you were a Michelin Man.
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Oct 22, 2016 15:16
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Cocoa Crispies posted:I figured you were a Michelin Man.
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