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| Celtic |
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9 | 18.75% |
| Aberdeen |
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7 | 14.58% |
| Hearts |
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2 | 4.17% |
| The Rangers |
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5 | 10.42% |
| Hibs are shite |
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25 | 52.08% |
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Total Meatlove posted:Blaming Rangers for the Premier League getting sky money won’t make Scottish football healthier either Jesus christ lol what
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Jul 5, 2017 21:30
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jre posted:From a technical perspective Rangers played 48 ineligible players in these games because they submitted fake contracts to the SFA as part of defrauding the tax man. I can't see that you can make an argument around fraudulent contracts, unless Rangers specifically engineered the contracts to be fraudulent. In which case, that was the case the first time the SFA investigated, the contracts were always fraudulent and the Supreme Court ruling doesn't make a difference to that. If you go down the line of saying that the judgement makes the contracts retrospectively fraudulent, in a way that they wouldn't have been had it been perfectly fine to make non-taxable payments through loans, that seems a fairly suspect claim. Assuming that the contracts had some boilerplate about players having access to a Big Gay Loan Pot, then most employment contracts I've ever seen don't need to make any declarations regarding tax. Again, this isn't to say that Rangers didn't murder fitba and now fitba is dead, but I don't see why it surprises anyone that the SFA spoke to a lawyer and the lawyer made a face
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Jul 5, 2017 21:51
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FullLeatherJacket posted:I can't see that you can make an argument around fraudulent contracts, unless Rangers specifically engineered the contracts to be fraudulent. quote:In which case, that was the case the first time the SFA investigated, the contracts were always fraudulent and the Supreme Court ruling doesn't make a difference to that. He was in the position of setting up the investigation into what he did while at Rangers. He decided the correct thing to do was hire an impartial third party , and chose the only suitable man for the job, David Murray's next door neighbour Lord Nimmo Smith Nimo Smith ruled that because at the time of the inquiry the tax dodge had been ruled legal ( subject to appeal by HMRC ) there was "no sporting advantage". The dodge has now exhausted all appears, isn't legal so people think it should be re-evaluated because the premise of the original inquiry doesn't hold any more
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Jul 5, 2017 21:58
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Jose posted:lol what Trying to claim that Rangers are responsible for the deterioration of Scottish football in the mid-late 90’s and early 00’s because of side letters - which BisonDollah is attempting upthread - is laughable given that the biggest culprit was the growing disparity between English clubs with new Sky money and Scottish clubs without. If you tracked the top 20 richest clubs in Europe over the last three decades all you’d see is the inflation of English Premier league clubs ( and Newcastle the odd time they go down) outstripping established European sides who rely more heavily on merchandising and ticket sales. Burnley are richer than AC Milan, Bournemouth have more cash than Dortmund etc. Even now the SPFL’s media rights are worth less than United get paid for 5? games. How the gently caress are Rangers to blame for that?
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Jul 5, 2017 22:05
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i didn't really read all his post because it was too long but rangers definitely deserve ot lose their titles and should
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Jul 5, 2017 22:08
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jre posted:I'm sure Bert would have definitely signed for Rangers for half the wages. If Konterman and the other foreigners had any sense they'll have long since left the UK and become non-resident for tax purposes. Barry Ferguson's probably hosed though.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:27
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jre posted:They did, they submitted fake ones that had made up salary amounts and differed from the one's actually given to players and their agents I don't know why I'm in any fashion surprised at the idea of scottish football being run on the same basis as the burmese junta, but there you go
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Jul 5, 2017 22:34
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Everyone has conveniently forgotten Celtic also used EBT's. They just didn't win anything of note during that times so nobody is arsed.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:37
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jre posted:I'm sure Bert would have definitely signed for Rangers for half the wages. Yes. I'm sure he'll be making regular monthly payments, from his home out with the uk tax system, you mongo.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:40
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Thrifting Day! posted:Everyone has conveniently forgotten Celtic also used EBT's. They just didn't win anything of note during that times so nobody is arsed. They used an EBT once for Juninho, they didn't fake his contract and they unwound it and paid the tax due when it became obvious EBS weren't valid Nice attempt at deflection though
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Jul 5, 2017 22:40
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Thrifting Day! posted:Everyone has conveniently forgotten Celtic also used EBT's. They just didn't win anything of note during that times so nobody is arsed. They paid one player through an EBT. And then paid the tax on it. Nice try though.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:43
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Thrifting Day! posted:Yes. I'm sure he'll be making regular monthly payments, from his home out with the uk tax system, you mongo. I'm sure he will https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/tax-cooperation-control/tax-recovery_en
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Jul 5, 2017 22:48
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jre posted:I'm sure he will https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/tax-cooperation-control/tax-recovery_en I'm sure this will happen... Wait, Remember brexit?
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Jul 5, 2017 22:50
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Lol at rangers supporters defending their massive tax fraud
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Jul 5, 2017 23:13
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Thrifting Day! posted:I'm sure this will happen... Remember last night's result? There's a Brexit for ye. 
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Jul 5, 2017 23:19
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Guy at work is a massive Rangers fan...went over to watch the match and everything. Printed out heaps of Progres logos, flags etc and stuck them to his monitors. #banter
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Jul 6, 2017 00:16
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I like it when bad stuff happens to Rangers because fans of every other club get to be friends and laugh about it.
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Jul 6, 2017 16:53
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Just saw the thread title lmao
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Jul 6, 2017 18:25
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