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There's a story about that last clip where Boxleitner calls himself Sinclair: It was getting late on the last day of filming and they didn't want to go past midnight because they'd have to start paying overtime; two "suits" from the network had shown up, ready to stop filming at the stroke of twelve. Director John C. Flinn wanted to do a good job because it was the first time he'd directed an episode, but with just minutes left they still hadn't finished. For the end of the scene to look good it needed multiple takes from different angles, but they only had time to do one take. So they started filming and Boxleitner called himself Sinclair. Everyone laughed, even the suits, and that's Flinn pretending to strangle him. They had to film past midnight but the mood was lightened and Flinn had time to film it the way he wanted. Peter David, who wrote the episode and was an extra in that scene, wondered if Boxleitner had deliberately flubbed his line because he knew Flinn needed more time. As a first-time director, he'd look bad if he went over, so Boxleitner made it his own fault. People have probably asked Boxleitner about that at conventions but I don't know if he's confirmed or denied it (or if he even remembers).
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Nathilus posted:G'kar's hate boner for londo is so perfect that it's almost sad how he learns forgiveness and poo poo even though his enlightenment is played perfectly. MOLLAAAAAAARIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!! That laugh was god tier
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Action Jacktion posted:There's a story about that last clip where Boxleitner calls himself Sinclair: It was getting late on the last day of filming and they didn't want to go past midnight because they'd have to start paying overtime; two "suits" from the network had shown up, ready to stop filming at the stroke of twelve. Director John C. Flinn wanted to do a good job because it was the first time he'd directed an episode, but with just minutes left they still hadn't finished. For the end of the scene to look good it needed multiple takes from different angles, but they only had time to do one take. So they started filming and Boxleitner called himself Sinclair. Everyone laughed, even the suits, and that's Flinn pretending to strangle him. They had to film past midnight but the mood was lightened and Flinn had time to film it the way he wanted. Peter David, who wrote the episode and was an extra in that scene, wondered if Boxleitner had deliberately flubbed his line because he knew Flinn needed more time. As a first-time director, he'd look bad if he went over, so Boxleitner made it his own fault. People have probably asked Boxleitner about that at conventions but I don't know if he's confirmed or denied it (or if he even remembers). I actually saw a clip with Boxleitner talking about that bit and he kept it pretty non-committal, just saying it was one of his favorite memories from B5. It's always struck me as a deliberate thing - Sinclair's a strange name to mention! etalian posted:That laugh was god tier "So we must work together!" "No!"  So many good things. "Can anyone hear me?!" "I hear you!" Or from the very end, when they're rescued. "I hate my life." "So do I."
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Sep 7, 2016 02:42
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Milky Moor posted:That's a really good insight. The casting is superb, even if they're not the best actors, because they give it their all and they're bringing a lot of heart to the performances. I was just reading up about the cast and holy poo poo that show must be cursed. In addition to the above, Claudia Christian(Ivanova) became a raging alcoholic and drug abuser, she's a teetotaler now which probably saved her life. Stephen Furst(Vir) was so sick with diabetes that he needed a kidney transplant, a B5 fan actually ended up donating one to him. Andrea Thompson(Talia) was stalked by a psycho for a year who repeatedly tried to break into her house. Honestly you could probably count on one hand the number of the cast that came out of that show unscathed. Action Jacktion posted:There's a story about that last clip where Boxleitner calls himself Sinclair: It was getting late on the last day of filming and they didn't want to go past midnight because they'd have to start paying overtime; two "suits" from the network had shown up, ready to stop filming at the stroke of twelve. Director John C. Flinn wanted to do a good job because it was the first time he'd directed an episode, but with just minutes left they still hadn't finished. For the end of the scene to look good it needed multiple takes from different angles, but they only had time to do one take. So they started filming and Boxleitner called himself Sinclair. Everyone laughed, even the suits, and that's Flinn pretending to strangle him. They had to film past midnight but the mood was lightened and Flinn had time to film it the way he wanted. Peter David, who wrote the episode and was an extra in that scene, wondered if Boxleitner had deliberately flubbed his line because he knew Flinn needed more time. As a first-time director, he'd look bad if he went over, so Boxleitner made it his own fault. People have probably asked Boxleitner about that at conventions but I don't know if he's confirmed or denied it (or if he even remembers). Are there many instances where actors go to bat for a show like that?
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Sep 7, 2016 14:16
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Milky Moor posted:I actually saw a clip with Boxleitner talking about that bit and he kept it pretty non-committal, just saying it was one of his favorite memories from B5. It's always struck me as a deliberate thing - Sinclair's a strange name to mention! The "we're in here" gkar does in the tiny voice never fails to crack me up. But the best bit of raw acting in that scene is how gkar flows so perfectly from cracking the gently caress up to livid back to cracking up as he says, "You forget the terms of our surrender. Any centauri who is killed by a narn will be met with the DEATH OF A THOSAND NARNS INCLUDING THE PERPETRATORS OWN FAMILY!" and londo being visibly taken aback.
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Nathilus posted:The "we're in here" gkar does in the tiny voice never fails to crack me up. Absolutely. Katsulas was a legend.
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Sep 7, 2016 16:03
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Milky Moor posted:Absolutely. Katsulas was a legend. He and Jurasik are Proof that a lot of really amazing actors are probably overlooked merely because they are not Baywatch models
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Sep 7, 2016 18:57
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One thing I did like on B5 is how the windows get shuttered during battle. Can't have missiles and poo poo going through open windows.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:26
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Milky Moor posted:Absolutely. Katsulas was a legend. He was a good Romulan too 
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Sep 8, 2016 00:33
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Five pages of people admitting they watched the dogshit show known as babylon 5
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Sep 8, 2016 00:35
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vols bitch posted:Five pages of people admitting they watched the dogshit show known as babylon 5 There. Fixed that for you.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:02
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Good episode: the one where an Earthforce ship tries to wreck B5 and they swat it down with the big loving weapon upgrades Earthforce put in.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:10
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vols bitch posted:Five pages of people admitting they watched the dogshit show known as babylon 5 Alright, you got me, I've had sex too. I admit it.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:48
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vols bitch posted:Five pages of people admitting they watched the dogshit show known as babylon 5 G'Quan wrote, "Suck my dick you fuckman".
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Sep 8, 2016 04:03
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"suck my dick you fuckman" - ambassador kosh, babylon 5
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Milky Moor posted:"suck my dick you fuckman" - ambassador kosh, babylon 5 Sheridan: whats in there? Kosh:*weird suit noises, lights* one moment of perfect "suck my dick you fuckman" Sheridan:*sighs, climbs into duct*
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Sep 8, 2016 04:09
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vols bitch posted:Five pages of people admitting they watched the dogshit show known as babylon 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRRI1WHlUcc&t=349s
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Sep 8, 2016 04:59
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Nathilus posted:Sheridan: whats in there?
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Sep 8, 2016 06:12
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The Centauri currency is 'ducets'. But in the grand old days of the Centauri Republic, they were known as "sucket my ducets you fuckets"
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Sep 8, 2016 06:20
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Londo uses one of his penises to cheat at cards. Someone set a beer on it. 
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Helical Nightmares posted:Garak would be cool on B5. Great actor, character. The original writers' bible for B5 included a character named Mr. Jones. He'd work in the bazaar and would have a mysterious secret past, though there'd be different stories about who he really was. He could be dangerous to anyone in his way. Sometimes he'd help the crew but other times he'd work against them for his own purposes. Sound familiar? Nah, guess not. Milky Moor posted:Absolutely. Katsulas was a legend. It was Katsulas's idea for G'Kar to be laughing through the whole scene. I don't know if he thought of the little "I hear you" and "We're in here." Action Jacktion fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Sep 8, 2016 17:12
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Obviously I love that scene but I don't like it being posted in these threads. You gotta earn it.
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Action Jacktion posted:The original writers' bible for B5 included a character named Mr. Jones. He'd work in the bazaar and would have a mysterious secret past, though there'd be different stories about who he really was. He could be dangerous to anyone in his way. Sometimes he'd help the crew but other times he'd work against them for his own purposes. Sound familiar? Nah, guess not. Goddamn I wish garak jones had stayed in Londo: Tell me, Mr. Jones: out of all these stories you have told, which is true? Jones: Why, all of them are true ambassador mollari. Londo: Even the lies? Jones: ESPECIALLY the lies. Mollari grins, offers a fukkin toast. (BTW mollari is so good and cool you are hearing the correct accent for him even just reading my fanfic. Weird huh?) Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Obviously I love that scene but I don't like it being posted in these threads. You gotta earn it. It's definitely more potent once you've seen the lead-up, what with g'kar's tenuous attempt at friendship getting utterly shattered and seeing him drat near lose his loving mind with rage and anguish. With all that background it is more than just hilarious and amazing acting. It's catharsis.
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Quill posted:Ever since I watched the show (airing in 1997 here in Finland), B5 has remained my favorite science fiction show. To this day, only a few have come even close to portraying such a well formed world and story. Started in 1995 here in Norway. Was a defining part of the late-90s experience for me (I was in university at the time studying nerd stuff and hanging around with other nerds). It aired at an idiotic early-afternoon time slot on Sundays and was surprisingly preempted for sports quite often. Somehow managed to catch every single episode except for the pilot (which I didn't get to see until many years later)... in fact I think recording this was the main reason why I bought a VCR. Agnostic on the Sinclair vs. Sheridan issue, but agree that G'kar and Londo were the best.
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Peter Jurasik was so amazing as Londo that I'm reading his lines in That Voice even though I haven't actually seen a B5 episode in at least a decade. I also had the hugest crush on Delenn/Mira Furlan.
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Anyone remember Toyfaire magazine? They made comics with action figures, mostly marvel characters, frequently the Fantastic 4. I always read Dr. Doom with Katsulas voice. Katsulas would have been the perfect Dr. Doom but Hollywood always had their collective heads up their asses and cast bland assholes as doom since forever. In a perfect world Paramount would be stripped of all it's money and poo poo which would be given to JMS to make whatever he wanted.
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vols bitch posted:Five pages of people admitting they watched the dogshit show known as babylon 5 That's one thing I feel bad for you kids, as an old. You're so used to seeing everything with such perfect production values and such ironic loving detachment it's hard to let go to appreciate earnest enthusiasm. The 80's-90's have tons of really great poo poo that was rebellious and fun and exploratory, but since it's crudely made you'll pass on it. \ 
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Now this old man (43) has watched a shitload of scifi in his times and B5 has without a doubt some of the best character development and story arcs written, hands down. The G'Kar & Londo Mollari saga is truly well crafted and so is the Earth/Mars/Independence storyline. Don't let the production budget fool you that the rest of the show is any worse than it is. It's a great show that does stand the test of time. There's lovely writing, there's good writing and then there's B5 writing. If you haven't watched it already, do go ahead and watch the entire story arc from beginning to end. It's going to be remembered as one of the great scifi sagas of television.
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Fuckin' Byron, though. He was the worst.
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Groke posted:Fuckin' Byron, though. He was the worst. I had to autohypnotize myself to forget about Byron whenever I play MGSV because I won't have Byron ruining Kaz for me
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Groke posted:Started in 1995 here in Norway. Was a defining part of the late-90s experience for me (I was in university at the time studying nerd stuff and hanging around with other nerds). It aired at an idiotic early-afternoon time slot on Sundays and was surprisingly preempted for sports quite often. Somehow managed to catch every single episode except for the pilot (which I didn't get to see until many years later)... in fact I think recording this was the main reason why I bought a VCR. For us that were a bit younger than you it fit perfectly fine in with a time of the week where we were doing nothing, so it was pretty much perfect. We only had two TV channels and had never had satellite or cable or even owned a VCR, so it was unlike anything we had ever seen. I'm pretty happy that I share the memories of watching Babylon 5 with my whole family. After B5 TV2 started airing ST:TNG in the same time slot, which they eventually dropped mid-series. B5 started running Saturday and Sunday mornings, so I remember an article in one of our mens magazines (Vi Menn) about what it was like to be in Norwegian prison, and one of the lines were "You're gonna get real familiar with Babylon 5"
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evobatman posted:B5 started running Saturday and Sunday mornings, so I remember an article in one of our mens magazines (Vi Menn) about what it was like to be in Norwegian prison, and one of the lines were "You're gonna get real familiar with Babylon 5" I suddenly have this image of Norwegian prisoners doing competing Londo and G'kar accents 
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evobatman posted:B5 started running Saturday and Sunday mornings, so I remember an article in one of our mens magazines (Vi Menn) about what it was like to be in Norwegian prison, and one of the lines were "You're gonna get real familiar with Babylon 5" I also usually wasn't doing anything on Sunday mornings despite not being in prison; caught a lot of reruns of Bonanza and MacGyver.
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Helical Nightmares posted:I suddenly have this image of Norwegian prisoners doing competing Londo and G'kar accents Or accidentally getting into a green/purple riot Though, now I'm curious, was B5 subtitled or dubbed in Norway? WarLocke posted:I also had the hugest crush on Delenn/Mira Furlan. yeah, that happens to me any time i rewatch the series
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It was subtitled, we don't dub stuff except cartoons for the youngest children.
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