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I remember hearing somewhere that places like NYC, Detroit, and new Orleans exist because they're near the hudson or the Mississippi, which are good for commerce or something. I don't actually understand this at all, though. Like, what makes Detroit's location worthwhile? Why would you want a city there?
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Sep 21, 2016 00:12
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well its a city so there is a lot of stuff goin on there
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Sep 21, 2016 02:03
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probably until people stop needing to eat or build stuff, OP
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Sep 21, 2016 03:59
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upgrade that land with a trading post once u research guilds if u wait for ten turns it will upgrade 2 a town and youll get an extra GPT
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Sep 21, 2016 14:25
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oliveoil posted:I remember hearing somewhere that places like NYC, Detroit, and new Orleans exist because they're near the hudson or the Mississippi, which are good for commerce or something. I don't actually understand this at all, though. Floating things around on giant boats is a great way to move things, but they do tend to need large amounts of water to move. In places without that water, the boats and their related commerce don't exist.
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Sep 21, 2016 17:31
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oliveoil posted:Like, what makes Detroit's location worthwhile? Why would you want a city there?
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Sep 22, 2016 04:26
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Moving things by horse and cart is loving slow and energy intensive. Boat transport is almost trivial by comparison. Moving things is kind of required for any civilization to sustain itself on either the low scale (cities) or large scale (nations).
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Sep 22, 2016 11:08
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If you cut down a bunch of trees and drag them to a port you can sell them to anyone in the world with a boat. If you cut down a bunch of trees in bumfuck idaho, you can sell them to your neighbors, who don't have anything to buy them with except more trees. Navigable waterways: the only viable option for moving bulk goods from the dawn of human civilization to 1825 shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 22:21
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That said, no, they won't always be valuable. See also all the railroad towns that no longer exist because the means of transport that made them useful ceased to be a major player. Trade route towns are valuable and necessary only until a better form of transportation takes over, or the resources they were built to assist in exploiting cease to be valuable (or present).
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Sep 23, 2016 04:11
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I'm struggling to think of a time when water freight won't be needed. Maybe when we get cheap teleporters.
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Sep 23, 2016 04:40
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I don't think land in Detroit is very valuable right now.
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Sep 25, 2016 11:16
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It's also a matter of momentum; the first places settled would have been places near major rivers/bays/whatever, causing other people to settle there (due to more people/businesses/etc) and causing a feedback loop.
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Sep 26, 2016 00:00
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VulgarandStupid posted:I don't think land in Detroit is very valuable right now. Speaking of, if I bought plots of land in Detroit, would I have to tear down the crackhouse/squat that was there to avoid liability concerns?
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Sep 26, 2016 00:39
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Solice Kirsk posted:Speaking of, if I bought plots of land in Detroit, would I have to tear down the crackhouse/squat that was there to avoid liability concerns? Pay a local to burn it so you get insurance money. Or just wait for someone to burn it anyways.
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Sep 26, 2016 03:16
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Atticus_1354 posted:Pay a local to burn it so you get insurance money. Or just wait for someone to burn it anyways. I'm assuming I'd still have to clean up the burned lot though. I see stuff for sale for like 10k, but if it's gonna be another 20k to tear poo poo down and then another 15 years holding it, I dint think it's worth it.
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Sep 26, 2016 03:21
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You not only have to hold it, and possibly clear it, you have to do something with it. Detroit realized that the rest of the world wanted to come buy a $100k house for $1k and hold it for 10 years and do nothing with it... if everybody does that, the city will never improve. So there are laws now about buying a slum and letting it rot.
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Sep 26, 2016 06:20
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photomikey posted:You not only have to hold it, and possibly clear it, you have to do something with it. Detroit realized that the rest of the world wanted to come buy a $100k house for $1k and hold it for 10 years and do nothing with it... if everybody does that, the city will never improve. So there are laws now about buying a slum and letting it rot. Could I build a gazebo on it and call it a day?
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