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Kaedric posted:This event brings to light a serious problem that we have in America: the word 'shooting' or 'shot' is ambiguous and makes me mad every time I see it. The headline isn't supposed to inform so much as trick you into reading their awful story.
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My band opened up for Shake Ray Turbine in 1998 and they opened for Fugazi in 2000 at Hendrix College so i've basically played with minor threat
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Sep 29, 2016 02:39
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Kaedric posted:This event brings to light a serious problem that we have in America: the word 'shooting' or 'shot' is ambiguous and makes me mad every time I see it. The 1996 documentary Demolition Man introduced the term "murder-death-kill" for this reason.
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Ork of Fiction posted:Was pops the kind of dude to leave guns lying around, or did the kid go through extraordinary measures to get his hand on the weapon? Yes, the guns were freely available in the home and weren't being locked up as far as I'm aware. The main issue is that the kid had previously been sent to a detention center by threatening gun violence in schools not 8 months ago. Nothing had been done to remove the guns from the house and the parents refused to get the kid counseling.
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Sep 29, 2016 03:15
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DeusExMachinima posted:The 1996 documentary Demolition Man introduced the term "murder-death-kill" for this reason. This is a fact I want to hear in a school shooting news report that features injured children
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Sep 29, 2016 03:17
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Vargatron posted:Yes, the guns were freely available in the home and weren't being locked up as far as I'm aware. The main issue is that the kid had previously been sent to a detention center by threatening gun violence in schools not 8 months ago. Nothing had been done to remove the guns from the house and the parents refused to get the kid counseling. Sounds like the whole family should be wiped from the gene pool
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Vargatron posted:Yes, the guns were freely available in the home and weren't being locked up as far as I'm aware. The main issue is that the kid had previously been sent to a detention center by threatening gun violence in schools not 8 months ago. Nothing had been done to remove the guns from the house and the parents refused to get the kid counseling. OK so it makes sense why the kid killed the dad. Why did he shoot the other people.
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misty mountaintop posted:OK so it makes sense why the kid killed the dad. Why did he shoot the other people. He had bullets left over
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Vargatron posted:Yes, the guns were freely available in the home and weren't being locked up as far as I'm aware. The main issue is that the kid had previously been sent to a detention center by threatening gun violence in schools not 8 months ago. Nothing had been done to remove the guns from the house and the parents refused to get the kid counseling. father and mother should be found criminally negligent then imo the state shouldn't remove their guns but they should have said lock that poo poo up e: oh the dad died, gently caress a duck i want justice got dangit
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Sep 29, 2016 04:09
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I'm sick of this poo poo.
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even if we had a proper word for shooting and killing someone people more would still misuse it electrocution is only supposed to mean someone was killed, but living people still say poo poo like "I got electrocuted trying to re-wire my toaster today"
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Sep 29, 2016 04:13
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Shot to death? Anyway it sounds like the dad was retarded and I'm just glad nobody else got killed because of him. Maybe he didn't think his son would really snap, he was a good boy nobody saw this coming etc etc
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Sep 29, 2016 04:15
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misty mountaintop posted:OK so it makes sense why the kid killed the dad. Why did he shoot the other people. Complex societal pressures.
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Sep 29, 2016 12:39
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with the plethora of experience i have in high tension live fire hostage situations, the highly regarded "Counter Strike' training system, i can say that arming all of the school guards with fully automatic assault rifles (specifically the ak47) would be a good choice for both long and short distance defense as the stopping power of 7.62 is much higher than any civilian-sourced ammunition
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Vargatron posted:Yes, the guns were freely available in the home and weren't being locked up as far as I'm aware. The main issue is that the kid had previously been sent to a detention center by threatening gun violence in schools not 8 months ago. Nothing had been done to remove the guns from the house and the parents refused to get the kid counseling. it is a constitutional right to bear arms. you have no right to confiscate the firearms of a law-abiding citizen and it is absolutely disgusting that you would disregard the freedoms that make this country greater than the degenerates surrounding us for some simple act of social justice. disgusting
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Sep 29, 2016 12:52
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TOOT BOOT posted:He had bullets left over Gotta admire his commitment to resource management.
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Ork of Fiction posted:Complex societal pressures. Gotta admire his commitment to sociology.
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Sep 29, 2016 13:06
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If guns were illegal this kid never would have had the means to free himself from the clutches of his tyrannical, abusive father.
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Sep 29, 2016 13:07
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I've decided to post my SHOCKED and OUTRAGED reaction face to this utterly unique and unheard-of event.  . Ok now I'd like a grande pumpkin latte please.
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Sep 29, 2016 13:16
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Children are dying every day and it is an utter waste. We should be consuming the corpses.
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Sep 29, 2016 13:19
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Nathilus posted:Children are dying every day and it is an utter waste. We should be consuming the corpses. Take it to another thread, buddy. The children in this case all lived, unfortunately.
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Sep 29, 2016 13:22
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misty mountaintop posted:Take it to another thread, buddy. The children in this case all lived, unfortunately. But surely some other children died. We can eat those ones.
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Sep 29, 2016 13:26
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Nathilus posted:But surely some other children died. We can eat those ones. Syrians are the best fed people on the planet right now. That's why the cease fire was bullshit.
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Sep 29, 2016 13:31
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king jeremy the wicked
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Nathilus posted:I've decided to post my SHOCKED and OUTRAGED reaction face to this utterly unique and unheard-of event. is it appropriate to memorialize this tragedy with a pumpkin spice overlay on my facebook av?
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Vargatron posted:Serious post guys. I grew up knowing the shooter's father and family. It's a really terrible situation, borne from mental abuse and a father who had an impossible standard for his son. There wasn't any ideological or racial component to the shooting, just a kid lashing out for help. I'm pretty sure like 90% of non-terror related mass shootings are usually the parents fault somehow. I'm starting to feel like people should need to take some classes or have a license to have kids or something because I don't really get how I need a license to fish but if I wanted to pop 10 kids out and go on government assistance and be a lovely parent that's my freedom. Vargatron posted:Yes, the guns were freely available in the home and weren't being locked up as far as I'm aware. The main issue is that the kid had previously been sent to a detention center by threatening gun violence in schools not 8 months ago. Nothing had been done to remove the guns from the house and the parents refused to get the kid counseling. If I was a parent of a kid who got shot I'd sue the pants off the parents. They honestly should face criminal negligence charges. Idk how else to fix this other than going hard at poo poo parents. Roylicious fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Sep 29, 2016 |
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Roylicious posted:If I was a parent of a kid who got shot I'd sue the pants off the parents. They honestly should face criminal negligence charges. There's one parent, and he's the only person the kid managed to successfully kill.
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Sep 29, 2016 18:36
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So, in other words, you and the kid agree.
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Sep 29, 2016 18:36
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Kaedric posted:This event brings to light a serious problem that we have in America: the word 'shooting' or 'shot' is ambiguous and makes me mad every time I see it. We could go with Gun Murder Death Kill for the latter. MDK for short. It worked well for Sylvester Stalone and Sandra Bullock.
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Linnear posted:You know I thought the NRA was a bit nuts for saying the solution to gun violence is more guns. But maybe it's just realistic with the diehard second amendment culture.
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Roylicious posted:If I was a parent of a kid who got shot I'd sue the pants off the parents. They honestly should face criminal negligence charges. Lol if you think having legal recourse on parents will change parent or child behavior at all. People who are negligent will remain negligent regardless of if they are potentially liable.
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misty mountaintop posted:So, in other words, you and the kid agree. He stood his ground. If he hadn't gone and shot up the school he'd be a free kid still.
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Sep 29, 2016 21:03
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misty mountaintop posted:OK so it makes sense why the kid killed the dad. Why did he shoot the other people. Well I mean if you just shoot your dad you're not going to make the local papers let alone 9 o'clock news, so props to him for trying.
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Ein cooler Typ posted:even if we had a proper word for shooting and killing someone people more would still misuse it Shotocuted. Shootacuted. Shotracution. Gunrocution.
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Oscar Wild posted:Lol if you think having legal recourse on parents will change parent or child behavior at all. People who are negligent will remain negligent regardless of if they are potentially liable. That's kind of a weird attitude isn't it? Why have negligence laws at all then about anything? There's always going to be shitters that doesn't mean screw it don't even try to improve anything.
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Roylicious posted:That's kind of a weird attitude isn't it? Why have negligence laws at all then about anything? They're not for deterring negligence. They're to deter the victims of negligence people from going crazy and becoming vigilantes.
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misty mountaintop posted:They're not for deterring negligence. They're to deter the victims of negligence people from going crazy and becoming vigilantes. OK but Elliot Rodger's parents are free to pop out another kid to gently caress up just as badly? And anyway that's not true universally. There's plenty of instances where there are fines or penalties for not doing X so after a while you learn or you lose privileges. You're not free to just be a negligent parent and not feed your kids or provide basic standards of living, why should you be free to abuse them emotionally/mentally? If the situation is kid is making violent gun threats at school and it's an open secret his dad is abusive and leaves guns around the house I think the proper response is to have society step in not shrug and go 'well what are you gonna do' until that kid snaps and shoots up his school and then act like it was some freak unavoidable tragedy. e: or blame guns about it Roylicious fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Sep 29, 2016 |
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Roylicious posted:OK but Elliot Rodger's parents are free to pop out another kid to gently caress up just as badly? They should have to have one child for each person he murdered.
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misty mountaintop posted:They should have to have one child for each person he murdered. The Balance! 
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