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Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

HerraS posted:

bronze was all 'imma dragon bitch' and the black king went 'lol ok imma make you regenerate constantly and well hack off and eat your meat forever and you cant die'

I don't think it's even "eat your meat," it's that the bronze dragon literally has skin made of bronze and they're forging it into equipment.

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tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Yeah, dragon meat isn't all that useful for someone who can already create infinite food. Come to think of it neither is the dragon since he can just copy the scales.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

tweet my meat posted:

Yeah, dragon meat isn't all that useful for someone who can already create infinite food. Come to think of it neither is the dragon since he can just copy the scales.

King's power doesn't work on inorganic substances so he just speeds up Bronze's cancer so he can keep growing more scales. hosed up!

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



all worth it for the Socialist Monster's Republic

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Jesus Did Nothing Wrong.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
Jesus, literally worse than Hitler the anime.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



ehhj the jurys still out on that one, both like to get their genocide on but at least Jesse genuinely cares for the monsters in his army

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Another pretty good episode. I was wondering what Rasputin's power was going to end up being. Nobunaga's smiles keep getting better and better. Whoever's doing Hannibal has some surprisingly decent Latin pronunciations.

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk
What are the majority of the Jesuit monster infnantry? Orcs? They look kinda lizardy.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Orcs were the pig men, I guess those are Goblins or Lizardmen

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

OnimaruXLR posted:

What are the majority of the Jesuit monster infnantry? Orcs? They look kinda lizardy.

The lizardy ones are probably kobolds. (I think they even say so in one scene.)

Which is actually kind of interesting, and suggests he's done his research, because while kobolds = lizards has been a thing in Western D&D for a while, in AD&D they looked more like dogs and that was the edition that got the most exposure in Japan. :eng101:

Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Dec 16, 2016

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
pretty sure those line troops were goblins

which is strange, the shinsengumi are cops, they sure as hell should know that you dont urban fight with spears. and if you are forced to, you chop them in half

also why the hell arent the ends trying to build gunpowder weapons of their own?

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Because they have super powers and the biggest army, so they don't feel like they need them?

Also I don't think any of them would actually know how except maybe Jesus.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Phobophilia posted:

pretty sure those line troops were goblins

which is strange, the shinsengumi are cops, they sure as hell should know that you dont urban fight with spears. and if you are forced to, you chop them in half

also why the hell arent the ends trying to build gunpowder weapons of their own?

They actually address that later

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Phobophilia posted:

also why the hell arent the ends trying to build gunpowder weapons of their own?

If I had to take a guess, they probably just don't have anyone who can do it. The Elves made a big ado about how only the Dwarves are good enough smiths to create copies of Nobunaga's musket, and the goblins/kobolds under the Black King are just barely starting primitive agriculture and metalworking.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

At this pace this siege of the Orte capital is going to be the season finale. From what I know of the series production this season took a long while to make, so if another season is ever to be greenlit, it'll be years down the line.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
drifters ultimate

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Phobophilia posted:

pretty sure those line troops were goblins

which is strange, the shinsengumi are cops, they sure as hell should know that you dont urban fight with spears. and if you are forced to, you chop them in half

also why the hell arent the ends trying to build gunpowder weapons of their own?

Do you know how to make gunpowder? Even when the ENDS have people from after guns came into wide usage, how many of them are going to know how to make gunpowder? Nobunaga knows because he gets hard for guns.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
saint-germi was a chemist in a time and place where gunpowder was common. he might not have known the specifics of how to mass-produce it like nobunaga, but he should have known the basic concept and he had like 50 years to experiment. i dunno, maybe he used all that time exclusively for governing and hedonism.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



why the gently caress would you waste your time figuring out how to make gunpowder when there are hundreds of beautiful elf boys to molest get to know?

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



HerraS posted:

why the gently caress would you waste your time figuring out how to make gunpowder when there are hundreds of beautiful elf boys to molest get to know?

Yeah. He seems to be completely 100% out for himself and avaricious to the extreme. I wouldn't be surprised if he was just waiting for someone else to come along to pulp the Orte Empire so he could pull the same "sell out the country for a good deal" scheme, and if that's the case, why bother working to create something that's directly benefit the long-term survival of Orte?

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Slime posted:

Do you know how to make gunpowder? Even when the ENDS have people from after guns came into wide usage, how many of them are going to know how to make gunpowder? Nobunaga knows because he gets hard for guns.

I learned how to make gunpowder in the 10th grade, in a class. :v:

I wouldn't have known how to get the raw components in a world with dark ages tech, though.

Sam Faust
Feb 20, 2015

I feel the need to remind people that in this anime the Mr. Big Dog himself Jesus of Nazareth gave a giant metal dragon super-cancer for being a prick and then used the dragon's metal tumors for supplying his monster army with armor and weapons.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Annointed posted:

At this pace this siege of the Orte capital is going to be the season finale.
How many more episodes do we even get?

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

I learned how to make gunpowder in the 10th grade, in a class. :v:

I wouldn't have known how to get the raw components in a world with dark ages tech, though.

I don't know gunpowder, but I do know guncotton. But just like you, I would have no idea how to acquire nitric acid.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
my guess is the black king wants to freeze technological development of the non-human races at a pre-gunpowder stage for his endgame. so that's why he uses so many top-heavy technologies to gain a military advantage, like talisman command structures, or dragon whelp taming. once he and the rest of the ends are removed from existence, the non-human races will revert to a peaceful agrarian society. it will, of course, fail: those other races will make the same mistakes as humans and demihumans, and perform the same atrocities upon one another. i mean, they're even doing it right now

actually if you want to look at a fairly stable post-musket agrarian society, edo japan would be a good contender, ignore the fact that it was enforced with brutal one-sided violence

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Phobophilia posted:

my guess is the black king wants to freeze technological development of the non-human races at a pre-gunpowder stage for his endgame. so that's why he uses so many top-heavy technologies to gain a military advantage, like talisman command structures, or dragon whelp taming. once he and the rest of the ends are removed from existence, the non-human races will revert to a peaceful agrarian society. it will, of course, fail: those other races will make the same mistakes as humans and demihumans, and perform the same atrocities upon one another. i mean, they're even doing it right now

actually if you want to look at a fairly stable post-musket agrarian society, edo japan would be a good contender, ignore the fact that it was enforced with brutal one-sided violence

Eh they'll probably do some grand scale magic poo poo that mentally reinforces an agrarian society in all monster races or something along those lines. I don't think Kouta Hirano would make the end of this manga a "villain wins war but goal was in vain." sort of thing.

Annointed fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Dec 19, 2016

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Pretty good for a season finale. Had a good laugh at Toyoshi and Hijikata devolving into a fistfight and the dwarfs and ghosts both watching with a real, "Man, these guys, huh?" look. Surprise appearance by Mitsuhide at the end! Here's hoping for a Season 2 sometime next year.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

I'm playing catch-up at the moment. I did get a laugh that Toyoshi predicted the end of the Boshin War.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



If nothing else, I'm enjoying learning little bits of Japanese history/folklore that I hadn't heard much about before.

Hoping we'll get an OST, soon. The music in this show is completely legit, but there's only been two tracks released so far.

Tatsujin
Apr 26, 2004

:golgo:
EVERYONE EXCEPT THE HOT WOMEN
:golgo:
Calling it now that the end of the manga will reveal that this is all a military history simulation thread on some future VR 2ch and its all just some dumb argument between Murasaki and EASY. I wouldn't put it past Hirano.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Tatsujin posted:

Calling it now that the end of the manga will reveal that this is all a military history simulation thread on some future VR 2ch and its all just some dumb argument between Murasaki and EASY. I wouldn't put it past Hirano.

"Joan of Arc can totally beat Shimazu."
"Shimazu wouldn't lose to her."
"Nuh uh she has fire powers so Shimazu loses"
"Well shimazu has a sorceress with stone wall making powers to block the fire"

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
i think hirano is the first japanese creator i've seen acknowledge that Hideyoshi's invasion of korea actually happened.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
if theres a badass who deserves to be a drifter its admiral yi

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
theres a case that yi is also an ends candidate because while he died a hero, it was after years of betrayal by the joseon court and after his carefully managed navy was squandered by politically-appointed incompetents

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

https://twitter.com/DriftersAnime/status/812675178035433472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Phobophilia posted:

theres a case that yi is also an ends candidate because while he died a hero, it was after years of betrayal by the joseon court and after his carefully managed navy was squandered by politically-appointed incompetents

And people wonder why modern scholars tend to poo poo on confucianism.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
confucianism is pretty good at keeping peasants docile and pretty bad at everything else

AtheistMantis
Oct 5, 2014

Confirmed. Black King is really Santa Claus

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Major Ricardo
Jan 30, 2001

AtheistMantis posted:

Confirmed. Black King is really Santa Claus

Or maybe Zwarte Piet.

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