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CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

MrMoo posted:

Switching is the easy bit, routing is when the price escalates.

don't route in your switches?

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

mishaq posted:

nbsd is literally incapable of not being a know it all on every possible topic in yospos lol

i have no opinion on your weird legacy telecoms crap

(other than i am pretty sure it's not switching and doesn't belong itt!)

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i have no opinion on your weird legacy telecoms crap

(other than i am pretty sure it's not switching and doesn't belong itt!)

you're worse than fishmech at times my friend

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

CrazyLittle posted:

don't route in your switches?

But my level 3 switching buzzword!!!

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
Is there any downside at all to running cumulus as your core routing OS for the enterprise? It runs quagga which has been around for donkeys and it runs on cheapo hardware?

I wonder how stable it is

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

abigserve posted:

Is there any downside at all to running cumulus as your core routing OS for the enterprise? It runs quagga which has been around for donkeys and it runs on cheapo hardware?

I wonder how stable it is

Try it and report back

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Captain Foo posted:

Try it and report back

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Captain Foo posted:

Try it and report back

this

if you stick with the most basic of rousing feature sets I'm sure you'll be fine. anything that hits CPU is going to suck hard

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
I have a good use case for it but it relies on mpls VPNs and I doubt it'll work good if at all

Edit: not supported, lameo.

abigserve fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Dec 28, 2016

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

CrazyLittle posted:

don't route in your switches?

??? most people do a ton of routing in their enterprise switches

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

??? most people do a ton of routing in their enterprise switches

lol

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
Depends if you classify a 6500 as an enterprise switch

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

abigserve posted:

Depends if you classify a 6500 as an enterprise switch

depends if you're using an rsp-720 in there or the vs-s720

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

??? most people do a ton of routing in their enterprise switches

get out of this thread

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Captain Foo posted:

get out of this thread

he can't help himself

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
E: ill advised post

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

abigserve posted:

Depends if you classify a 6500 as an enterprise switch

...of course i do

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i doubt anyone is stuffing a full table into a core switch or putting it on the internet or anything but lol if you think people are spending a million bucks on switching infrastructure just to move ethernet frames around

routing is a pretty important part of the package

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i doubt anyone is stuffing a full table into a core switch or putting it on the internet or anything but lol if you think people are spending a million bucks on switching infrastructure just to move ethernet frames around

routing is a pretty important part of the package

Captain Foo posted:

get out of this thread

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
pls explain how this magical network without routing on switches works

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

mishaq posted:

nbsd is literally incapable of not being a know it all on every possible topic in yospos lol

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i actually want to know

if you don't do any routing in your ordinary switches how the hell do you handle it?

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

i do all my routing in routers, op

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i doubt anyone is stuffing a full table into a core switch or putting it on the internet

ha haha hhahahahhahha siiiigh

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

switches get stitches, op

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

mishaq posted:

i do all my routing in routers, op

what, really?

how?

the network people at work are quite clear that i am not to attempt such a thing on peril of death. (probably the death of their routers upon receiving the terabit deluge)

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
it probably also bears mentioning that like <0.01% of traffic @ work has anything to do with the internet

the edge routers are toy equipment managed by a toy team that has little to do with the broader network

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i doubt anyone is stuffing a full table into a core switch or putting it on the internet or anything but lol if you think people are spending a million bucks on switching infrastructure just to move ethernet frames around

routing is a pretty important part of the package

oh ffs :ughh:

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

what, really?

how?

the network people at work are quite clear that i am not to attempt such a thing on peril of death. (probably the death of their routers upon receiving the terabit deluge)

you're no fishmech my friend, please stop

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

mishaq posted:

you're no fishmech my friend, please stop

why on earth do you imagine i would stop w/ no input from you

you have to actually like, refute me or something.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
also for the record this is a genuine ignorance

if i ain't supposed to make L3 choices in a switch how the gently caress is a network supposed to work?

this isn't some kinda fischmechian argument thing. i honestly have no idea how a network is supposed to pass 1000+ gbps of traffic per rack w/out routing decisions being made at local and agg tiers

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

my severely autistic fellow yosposter, i suggest some bedtime reading on the topics of spine/leaf data center architectures, the differences between packet forwarding and routing, and underlay/overlay networks

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO
is there anything, anything at all that notorious bsd does not have a strongly held, but absolutely wrong opinion about?

please, name something


also op just loving get ciscos / junipers dont waste ur time.

and dont do anything / believe anything nbsd has said in this thread, most of it is mindblowingly, spectacularly wrong

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

mishaq posted:

you're no fishmech my friend, please stop


:agreed:

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



mishaq posted:

my severely autistic fellow yosposter, i suggest you :getout:

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

THIS MOTHERDUCKER
FLIES IN STYLE

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

also for the record this is a genuine ignorance

if i ain't supposed to make L3 choices in a switch how the gently caress is a network supposed to work?

this isn't some kinda fischmechian argument thing. i honestly have no idea how a network is supposed to pass 1000+ gbps of traffic per rack w/out routing decisions being made at local and agg tiers

WHATS THE DEAL WITH LAYER 3 SWITCHES???

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

mishaq posted:

my severely autistic fellow yosposter, i suggest some bedtime reading on the topics of spine/leaf data center architectures, the differences between packet forwarding and routing, and underlay/overlay networks

i suffered long enough with juniper q-fabric to know for sure i want l3 links in a spine/leaf architecture

making routing decisions on switches naturally falls out of that.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

du -hast posted:

also op just loving get ciscos / junipers dont waste ur time.

i usually hear this from people who look like your av

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Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Jimmy Carter posted:

WHATS THE DEAL WITH LAYER 3 SWITCHES???

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