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Conch Shell Corp posted:too bad the background checks put in place by the dems in the states the anarchists and communists live in prevent people with a history of mental illness from owning guns lol republicans already own them though??
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get that OUT of my face posted:republicans will find ways to prevent undesirable people from owning guns while allowing their core constituency to keep them. i'm not sure what that will entail but some fuckhead in ALEC probably has it covered the first step is disguising racial profiling as background checks it will be billed as sensible anti-terrorism legislation that republicans can get away with because they're republicans and because they'll get the NRA to help them write it and bada-climp-bada-clamp racially specific gun control
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If you see a Hummer and no one is around it is your constitutional duty to at least break some loving taillights or key the poo poo out of it. Same for Trump bumper sticker.
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SpaceGoku posted:the first step is disguising racial profiling as background checks
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:MLK Jr. would have accomplished far less if not for Malcolm X. Peaceful protest only works if violence is the implicit alternative. MLK was the carrot and Malcolm X was the stick. So many people do not understand this, much like anything else having to do with the civil rights movement.
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people still called mlk jr violent and concern trolled that he was undermining the civil rights movement http://www.crmvet.org/docs/60s_crm_public-opinion.pdf quote:Do you approve or disapprove of what the 'Freedom Riders' are doing?
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walgreenslatino posted:All the examples you posted are of movements that failed lmao And here we have another reason why american protests are useless: the belief that protests can fix things by themselves, and if they can't do that I'M GETTING MY GUN!! THIS WILL SURELY WORK THIS TIME! THOSE PIGS SURELY GONNA BE AFRAI- a demonstration has limited aims 1) bringing media attention to the specific issue you want to be addressed (note: specific. as in something legislators can vote about) 2) increasing the visibility of your organization 3) recruiting more people to your organization 4) displaying the resources and discipline of your organization; forcing authorities to take your org seriously as a threat to their aims. if you have no organization, you have no power and nobody has to take you seriously. this won't change even if you grab an AK and cosplay as a revolutionary. and real change involves much more than a demonstration anyway. join an org or STFU.
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Protests are only as good as the activists using them, a huge number of people are probably going to the women's March because it's a thing to do, or to get pics for Instagram or Facebook, if you can get 10% of them to get into volunteering or even attending city council meetings or calling their reps it can make a real difference.
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Ace of Baes posted:Protests are only as good as the activists using them, a huge number of people are probably going to the women's March because it's a thing to do, or to get pics for Instagram or Facebook, if you can get 10% of them to get into volunteering or even attending city council meetings or calling their reps it can make a real difference. protests are also for recruiting members into your secret weather underground terrorist resistance movement
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Cnut the Great posted:It seems like this is a pretty popular thing to say but there's no actual way to prove it's true. Tiler Kiwi posted:people still called mlk jr violent and concern trolled that he was undermining the civil rights movement quote:Some people feel that in working for equal rights for negroes, Reverend (Martin Strudel Man has issued a correction as of 02:45 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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jarofpiss posted:protests are also for recruiting members into your secret weather underground terrorist resistance movement Yep, first you get your protests, then you find the serious ones and recuit them into your paramilitaries, then you get some real power.
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jarofpiss posted:protests are also for recruiting fbi spies into your secret weather underground terrorist resistance movement Fixed
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got any sevens posted:Fixed well i assume if you're recruiting for your group at a protest you work for the cia
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if you aren't actively killing anyone who isn't in perfect lockstep with your political ideology then you're aiding and abetting the enemy op it's civil war 2 out there on the mean streets of the internet
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Is violence an acceptable form of political expression? Just asking questions, folks
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Man Musk posted:Is violence an acceptable form of political expression? All expression is political and violent, it's just a matter of degrees. But if people stick to words they wont achieve any meaningful progress in our lifetimes. https://youtu.be/JyhfHQ_7Skg
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Fullhouse posted:peaceful protest is really easy to ignore, is the thing Is this bad? Why should someone have their life ruined because they were driving on the highway at legal speed and a bunch of loving retards decided to jump in the way of their vehicle because they didn't win the election?
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call to action posted:Eh, I can kinda understand why people are protesting. The whole "WELL WHY DON'T YOU GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS THEN?!?" argument kinda falls apart when Democrats are 100% cucked both ideologically and logistically and Republicans control all branches of government. Protests are expressions of anger, whether they "work" or not is kinda a pointless discussion, like whether crying "works" to make things better. What are they protesting tho? Cause I don't see any real organized resistance to capitalism or the status quo, I just see "TRUMP IS A MEANIE" 
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Trumpenproletariat posted:Is this bad? if you make it legal to run over protestors on accident, you also make it legal to run over protestors on purpose hth
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Fullhouse posted:if you make it legal to run over protestors on accident, you also make it legal to run over protestors on purpose hth kind of like with police shootings in general 
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get that OUT of my face posted:not that big of a leap between that and the dems' proposal to not sell guns to people on the no-fly list tbh yeah it's pretty convenient for republicans
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fspades posted:And here we have another reason why american protests are useless: the belief that protests can fix things by themselves, and if they can't do that I'M GETTING MY GUN!! THIS WILL SURELY WORK THIS TIME! THOSE PIGS SURELY GONNA BE AFRAI- not empty quoting
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greatn posted:If you see a Hummer and no one is around it is your constitutional duty to at least break some loving taillights or key the poo poo out of it. Same for Trump bumper sticker. I'm pretty sure all Hummers these days are either kept under a tarp in a garage or broken down. What a poo poo car.
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to me, it's not so much about violence vs. non-violence, but about passive vs. active protest. passive marching does nothing, while direct action gets the goods so peaceful protests are largely useless and are frequently harmful especially when the organizers condemn more radical actions. their function is to recuperate movements into non-radical organization that the state can handle and control. but non-violent direct action can work. it's not "peaceful" because what they call peace is just normalized violence -- the smooth functioning of our hosed up world.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:MLK Jr. would have accomplished far less if not for Malcolm X. Peaceful protest only works if violence is the implicit alternative. ----------------
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